Star Wars Gaming Megathread Episode II - Attack of the Season Pass - Games

[QUOTE=Tuskin;52896692][sp]The end of the plan was to always retreat to the unknown regions and rebuild there, so they wouldn't be using anything left behind.[/sp][/QUOTE] But like, [sp]you don't even need to go through with that part of the plan either, it's not like the Empire couldn't have pulled through and maintained control over it's space, like think about it, Operation Cinder can totally work, but for some reason, because they are stupid evil they do it right at the very start, weakening their position and strengthening the postion of the rebellion and not the end, when the rebellion starts REALLY winning back the space they own, Like I feel as though everything is being pushed far to fast, so they can turn into the first order already, like the Empire hasn't lost it's space yet, it still has a shit load of ships, nothing is stopping them from just maintaining that until the rebellion starts inching forwards into your space and THEN scorch the shit out of it, making it useless.[/sp] Honestly it's one of the things the EU got right in that respect and one of the things I don't really like about the new canon, the Empire didn't fold like a house of fucking cards.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;52896590]Operation Cinder was also part of a larger Contingency Plan [url]http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Contingency[/url][/QUOTE] wait, why did [sp]rax plan to follow the plan of destroying the empire and letting the resistance win but also secretly plan to start a new empire afterwards, why not just perform a coup or something[/sp]

[QUOTE=jonu67;52896697]But like, [sp]you don't even need to go through with that part of the plan either, it's not like the Empire couldn't have pulled through and maintained control over it's space, like think about it, Operation Cinder can totally work, but for some reason, because they are stupid evil they do it right at the very start, weakening their position and strengthening the postion of the rebellion and not the end, when the rebellion starts REALLY winning back the space they own, Like I feel as though everything is being pushed far to fast, so they can turn into the first order already, like the Empire hasn't lost it's space yet, it still has a shit load of ships, nothing is stopping them from just maintaining that until the rebellion starts inching forwards into your space and THEN scorch the shit out of it, making it useless.[/sp] Honestly it's one of the things the EU got right in that respect and one of the things I don't really like about the new canon, the Empire didn't fold like a house of fucking cards.[/QUOTE] I think [sp]they sort of have to do it right after the death of the emperor because that's when the soldiers are at their most devoted. If you only look at the movies, like you ignore Thrawn, while the empire has skilled commanders, they lack autonomy and the whole structure of the empire is designed so that everybody fears Vader and Palpatine and nobody could ever attempt to overthrow them. The whole thing would crumble and the commanders would be a lot less willing to do evil shit once the Emperor/Vader presence was gone. Immediately after Endor, the Empire are like headless chicken extremists, they're super worked up and want to do SOMETHING to avenge their 'god-like' leader, but they lack the leadership. The commanders getting orders from beyond the grave from a venerated figure like Palpatine would be more than enough to push them over the edge; they would do anything those orders asked.[/sp] It's like, what you're saying makes sense, but I've always understood that the empire is supposed to be like Starship Troopers with both the cult of personality and force shenanigans of the Emperor, everyone is either devoted, in fear, or both. In that situation it would only be a matter of time before everything crumbled, but materials outside of the movies that flesh things out a bit make that seem less realistic.

[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;52896793]wait, why did [sp]rax plan to follow the plan of destroying the empire and letting the resistance win but also secretly plan to start a new empire afterwards, why not just perform a coup or something[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]He was the Emperor protege or something like that. He was extremely loyal.[/sp]

I really think that [sp]They should have just had it center on splinter factions of the Empire rather than straight up joining the rebels. You could easily have Admiral Versio leading the Loyalists who are working to carry out Operation Cinder. Meanwhile, Iden would be working with a separate faction working to preserve the empire because they realize "Hey the emperor is batshit insane and evil, but even then the Empire itself brought order to the galaxy. Eventually they'd either be fighting a losing battle until a number of them realize that the New Republic would bring order just as the Empire did, or they'd split up into yet smaller factions that would attempt to operate independently, join the New Republic, or reinforce the Loyalists as a desperate last ditch effort. I may have gotten a bit convoluted with a plot meant to be told in the space of one campaign, but even a simple "Loyalists (who die out) versus Proto-first-order" would've worked.[/sp] [editline]16th November 2017[/editline] I had expected that [sp]that's what they were building up to, considering that Iden was a die-hard loyalist but in the play-first trial she questions the emperor, rather than the Empire as a whole[/sp]

[QUOTE=Minelayer;52896994]I really think that [sp]They should have just had it center on splinter factions of the Empire rather than straight up joining the rebels. You could easily have Admiral Versio leading the Loyalists who are working to carry out Operation Cinder. Meanwhile, Iden would be working with a separate faction working to preserve the empire because they realize "Hey the emperor is batshit insane and evil, but even then the Empire itself brought order to the galaxy. Eventually they'd either be fighting a losing battle until a number of them realize that the New Republic would bring order just as the Empire did, or they'd split up into yet smaller factions that would attempt to operate independently, join the New Republic, or reinforce the Loyalists as a desperate last ditch effort. I may have gotten a bit convoluted with a plot meant to be told in the space of one campaign, but even a simple "Loyalists (who die out) versus Proto-first-order" would've worked.[/sp] [editline]16th November 2017[/editline] I had expected that [sp]that's what they were building up to, considering that Iden was a die-hard loyalist but in the play-first trial she questions the emperor, rather than the Empire as a whole[/sp][/QUOTE] That would have made a lot more sense, considering [sp]that Luke even says to Del "maybe just something better" or something when they meet. I forget the exact language but it really seemed to point to Inferno Squad becoming their own thing. Could have been like an intergalactic A-Team, staying together and using their skills and intel to help out where they were most needed, then disappearing afterwards before the New Republic could get their hands on them to try them for war crimes (since they probably did some bad shit in the Empire).[/sp]

There appears to be, what looks like Phase 1 ARC Troopers running around in the background of Kamino [URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefrontTWO/comments/7dasfg/theres_arc_troopers_in_the_interior_windows_on/[/URL]

[QUOTE=jonu67;52896697]Honestly it's one of the things the EU got right in that respect and one of the things I don't really like about the new canon, the Empire didn't fold like a house of fucking cards.[/QUOTE] I think this was an overreaction on LucasFilm's part in an attempt to tie up loose ends by the time of TFA while preventing the "new Republic -> re-emergent Empire -> new Rebellion -> destroys Empire -> new Republic" feedback loop of Legends. I really think the Empire should have lasted more than one year after Endor, at least in a political sense; maybe a five or ten-year Cold War between the Empire and the now-dominant New Republic before the Empire eventually dissolves.

There's a shitload of cool EU content in some of these Battlefront 2 custom maps

Allegedly this streamer has unlocked almost everything without spending any money. Though he hasn't upgraded everything to max. He has about 50 hours of game time. [URL]https://www.twitch.tv/stodeh[/URL]

[QUOTE=Tuskin;52897628]Allegedly this streamer has unlocked almost everything without spending any money. Though he hasn't upgraded everything to max. He has about 50 hours of game time. [URL]https://www.twitch.tv/stodeh[/URL][/QUOTE] His twitter says he has "all of the weapons" which to my knowledge are the easier things to get in the game compared to heroes. I imagine the lions share of the absurd grind times we have read about come from upgrading all of the cards, where each upgrade is much more expensive than the last.

Yeah upgrading is the long and tedious part. [editline]16th November 2017[/editline] Kashyyyk might be the best looking planet in the game [url]https://imgur.com/a/ZiXQK[/url]

I think [sp]Operation Cinder is exactly something Palpatine would do. This is a guy who played the entire universe into letting him become supreme overlord over all of it, someone who doesn't give a single solitary shit about anyone but himself in the end. I think he was searching for immortality and planned to rule over the Empire for as long as possible, but it doesn't surprise me for a second that he'd have a backup plan that amounts to "flip the table" if anything ever went wrong. I think it's a bit dull that the only place they go with it is "Oh no we're the baddies now we're fighting the Empire," is the thing. The fact that when you go rogue and start fighting Stormtroopers on Vardos the planet is in the process of being annihilated by a man-made storm and none of the Stormtroopers decide "Hey, maybe I shouldn't be fighting for these guys!" As a famous special forces unit has just turned traitor feels a bit silly.[/sp]

So when they first announced the bonuses for Battlefront 2, the wording on the TLJ Falcon was: [quote]"1 Epic Ability Modifier that upgrades Millennium Falcon to the Star Wars: The Last Jedi Millennium Falcon with updated sounds and look"[/quote] Now it says [quote]"instant access to the Star Wars: The Last Jedi Millennium Falcon with updated sounds and appearance."[/quote] Was it bad wording? Or was the Falcon originally a single ship with a TLJ cosmetic?

[QUOTE=Raidyr;52897741]His twitter says he has "all of the weapons" which to my knowledge are the easier things to get in the game compared to heroes. I imagine the lions share of the absurd grind times we have read about come from upgrading all of the cards, where each upgrade is much more expensive than the last.[/QUOTE] It sounded like he had unlocked all heroes except for Luke and Chewie though

A bunch of the game changer youtube people have been tweeting stuff like 'big news coming' Also you can no longer purchase crystals on X-Box or PlayStation. [editline]16th November 2017[/editline] You also can't buy any in game on PC.

For those of us who don't remember, what does "pull an Xbox One" mean? Also I wonder what's going to happen. People who bought crystals will get refund? Will there be a game reset? This is interesting

[QUOTE=Ricenchicken;52898212]For those of us who don't remember, what does "pull an Xbox One" mean? Also I wonder what's going to happen. People who bought crystals will get refund? Will there be a game reset? This is interesting[/QUOTE] Microsoft was promoting all lf these online features for the XB1, but the backlash made them reverse it [editline]16th November 2017[/editline] [video]https://twitter.com/EAStarWars/status/931332890717143040[/video]

Something doesn't sit right with me about that post, what about the people that already bought stuff prior to that change?

What the fuck that's insane. Totally didn't see it coming

It says the crystals will come back later after they rework the game. so it is only temporary.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;52898274]It says the crystals will come back later after they rework the game. so it is only temporary.[/QUOTE] might mean they'll reintroduce microtransactions when they add cosmetics.

[QUOTE=Wulfram;52898301]might mean they'll reintroduce microtransactions when they add cosmetics.[/QUOTE] Hopefully this is the case. Don't think we'll get any microtransactions till The Last Jedi releases. So there's positive news coming to Battlefront 2 and all that Christmas gift/movie+game hype purchases are to be made. It's really nice to see this though. Now performance based credit reward system and the game will be what it should have been in the first place

Good start nonetheless.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;52898216] [video]https://twitter.com/EAStarWars/status/931332890717143040[/video][/QUOTE] Wow...I can honestly say I did not see this coming. I figured EA was making/would make too much money off the lootboxes to care about their current implementation. Is this really happening, or did my long work shift today make me delirious and this is all just a figment of my sleep deprived brain's imagination?

[QUOTE=Chaos Zero;52898455]Wow...I can honestly say I did not see this coming. I figured EA was making/would make too much money off the lootboxes to care about their current implementation. Is this really happening, or did my long work shift today make me delirious and this is all just a figment of my sleep deprived brain's imagination?[/QUOTE] They’re just doing it to lure people in, once they get enough money from game sales they’ll just reintroduce the currency again.

[QUOTE=Chaos Zero;52898455]Wow...I can honestly say I did not see this coming. I figured EA was making/would make too much money off the lootboxes to care about their current implementation. Is this really happening, or did my long work shift today make me delirious and this is all just a figment of my sleep deprived brain's imagination?[/QUOTE] I doubt they've been making that much (at least not as much they want) from lootboxes with all the outrage This only benefits them in the long run, even if they don't actually fix anything, because they look good while only losing out on sales at a time when no one is buying

Still not enough to win my cash. Never buying a new Star Wars game until EA loses the rights.

Holy shit. Obviously, it's a bit worrying that it's only temporary but at the same time it feels unlikely they're doing it just to bring an equally horrible system back later. Fingers crossed. If you're still on the fence about buying the game, I'd say you're better off waiting for more news.

I've been listening to the soundtrack on youtube and I like that they took more cues from the prequel music