Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - FUCK NO SPORTING GOODS STORES
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Yeah no matter what I do I don't know where to start and how to not die. If I make it out of the city I run into the forest. If I don't die in the forest I find somewhere to stay and stay a night. If I don't have books/food/water I have to go back out and that's usually when I end up dying.
[QUOTE=Kylel999;49907837]Yeah no matter what I do I don't know where to start and how to not die. If I make it out of the city I run into the forest. If I don't die in the forest I find somewhere to stay and stay a night. If I don't have books/food/water I have to go back out and that's usually when I end up dying.[/QUOTE]
I've found that starting with focus on combat skills lets me survive long enough to hit the books for practical knowledge later on.
Also: Dragon Kung-fu best Kung-fu.
[QUOTE=Kylel999;49907837]Yeah no matter what I do I don't know where to start and how to not die. If I make it out of the city I run into the forest. If I don't die in the forest I find somewhere to stay and stay a night. If I don't have books/food/water I have to go back out and that's usually when I end up dying.[/QUOTE]
Best way to set up a base is to hunt around until you find a place next to an open field. If you're lucky, it'll be a firehouse or a police station, which are largely safe from Zombies when you clear them out. If not, settle for a house and board the windows up.
[I]Slowly and carefully[/I] go on scouting runs along the [I]edge[/I] of town, breaking into houses and luring Zombies into burning bushes or onto windowsills to make dispatching them less hazardous. This will make it exponentially easier to get around town without attracting hordes of zombies, and it will give you a nice buffer of [I]guaranteed safe[/I] areas to retreat to.
As soon as possible, procure either a shopping cart or enough wood to create a wooden frame, a wooden box (made using a wooden frame in the Vehicle Construction Menu), and a pair of wheels. That's when you can [I]really[/I] start to make extensive supply runs, as now you've got much more space for stuff without weighing you down too much. It'll also help train your Mechanics skill, which is a must-have for any character build.
If you find a functioning car/motorbike or a book on Mechanics before this, you can skip straight to souping up a method of transportation.
[QUOTE=Kylel999;49907837]Yeah no matter what I do I don't know where to start and how to not die. If I make it out of the city I run into the forest. If I don't die in the forest I find somewhere to stay and stay a night. If I don't have books/food/water I have to go back out and that's usually when I end up dying.[/QUOTE]
cars are love, cars are life
if you don't have one, at the very least get a shopping cart to make early game looting 1000% easier
a point in dodge and getting either kung fu or krav maga at chargen also go a loooooong way to making life easier
remember that you don't have to take everything. you can mark stuff on the map by leaving notes so if you're worried you'll forget where that awesome shitfucker 9000 with a ton of ammo you couldn't carry was, you can just mark it down. take and eat perishables first - fruit, meat products, juice, etc. - and don't worry about leaving canned food or whatever laying around - you can always just come back for it. (if you wanna advanced survivalist this, you could always gather stuff from around the area in one house and leave it as a cache of sorts, but I've never really bothered)
same thing with books and so on. focus on the basics first - getting transportation, decent clothes (leather stuff is good for improvised armor but it's got low storage capacity), storage (a backpack is pretty much a must, cargo pants are great, every little bit helps though - if you find a tactical or utility vest, hold onto 'em), and a safe place to sleep. a source of water is invaluable - swimming pools, rivers, lakes, ponds etc provide infinite water, but if there's none around, toilets can last for a short while too. just remember to boil or otherwise decontaminate it first (water purifiers and purification tablets work for this). a decent melee weapon - baseball bats and combat knives work, the switchblade is surprisingly damn good. and a crowbar (or a halligan bar, which is also a good blunt melee weapon) for popping open doors, windows without breaking them (sometimes) and sewer covers.
guns are absolutely not the end-all-be-all in this game. they're loud, there's a bajillion types of them and half of these takes different ammo so the chance you've got a decent gun *and* enough ammo to use it is pretty low unless you're deliberately hitting up gun stores and searching every damn basement around. that said, they're a great panic button. and you can shoot them while driving, so you can absolutely drive-by a crowd of zombie children with a tec-9. I've done it before
also, getting skills at chargen is kind of a beginner's trap. a point here and there can be super useful (the aforementioned dodge skill, mechanics, electronics and computers since they're a bitch to grind up if you don't find the books for them, cooking and tailoring if you wanna avoid really boring grinding) but by and large getting your stats up and/or getting traits instead is a way bigger bang for your buck points wise. you can raise all skills in gameplay, you can't raise stats* or get new traits**.
(*unless you're using a mod) (**unless you start mutating)
Honestly the car building/electric grid building is my god damn favorite feature of Cata DDA
It is just so much fun building some horrific abomination of wiring, solar panels, minifridges and death
I like to keep a pistol or shotgun around even if I'm mostly using melee, all it takes is one random spitter or shocker zombie to send your pain levels sky high at which point you're fucked in melee.
Your guys' tips are great
But I still manage to get fucked by a skeletal dog I can't outrun and can't shoot and can't hit (despite having 0 encumberance) or something equally stupid
[editline]11th March 2016[/editline]
Like, looting isn't the problem, I literally don't make it far enough to be able to loot :v: The outskirts of every town has something that I absolutely can't kill as a beginner (mi-go's, zombie hulks etc) so it's not like I can really clear anything out. I pretty much end up running from something running into more stuff until i die
[QUOTE=Kylel999;49909329]Your guys' tips are great
But I still manage to get fucked by a skeletal dog I can't outrun and can't shoot and can't hit (despite having 0 encumberance) or something equally stupid
[editline]11th March 2016[/editline]
Like, looting isn't the problem, I literally don't make it far enough to be able to loot :v: The outskirts of every town has something that I absolutely can't kill as a beginner (mi-go's, zombie hulks etc) so it's not like I can really clear anything out. I pretty much end up running from something running into more stuff until i die[/QUOTE]
car is the answer
not even kidding, just fuckin' run the bastards over, it's my #1 method of dealing with mi-gos and other buff enemies
i just gotta figure out how to get a car into a lab so I can see how ramming a shoggoth would go
[QUOTE=M.Ciaster;49909481]car is the answer
not even kidding, just fuckin' run the bastards over, it's my #1 method of dealing with mi-gos and other buff enemies
i just gotta figure out how to get a car into a lab so I can see how ramming a shoggoth would go[/QUOTE]
as an experiment today i made a pretty cool and cheap ramming vehicle to loot a military outpost and managed to ram into the turrets with minimal damage to myself. i'll try to remember to post pictures tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Kylel999;49909329]Your guys' tips are great
But I still manage to get fucked by a skeletal dog I can't outrun and can't shoot and can't hit (despite having 0 encumberance) or something equally stupid
[editline]11th March 2016[/editline]
Like, looting isn't the problem, I literally don't make it far enough to be able to loot :v: The outskirts of every town has something that I absolutely can't kill as a beginner (mi-go's, zombie hulks etc) so it's not like I can really clear anything out. I pretty much end up running from something running into more stuff until i die[/QUOTE]
Every game is different, but one general tactic I have for medium to small town sizes is to escape to the outskirts as quick as possible, taking note of any vehicles I may want the parts of or may want to fix up, etc. Once I get to a small outskirt neighborhood, I clear all the houses in the vicinity and pick a structure to fortify. Bonus if one of the houses has a garage, boarded up windows, a saferoom, etc.. Then I get to looting and training skills. Besides combat; mechanics, cooking, and construction are very useful to have early on. From that point you should be able to avoid dying for the most part.
[QUOTE=matt000024;49909902]as an experiment today i made a pretty cool and cheap ramming vehicle to loot a military outpost and managed to ram into the turrets with minimal damage to myself. i'll try to remember to post pictures tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
pretty sure turrets work off line of sight so in theory all you'd have to do to turn a car into the rammachine 3000 is install curtains on all the windows, line it up, let the curtains down, and floor it
a less ghetto version would be forgoing windows altogether and installing a camera system instead
[QUOTE=Kylel999;49909329]Your guys' tips are great
But I still manage to get fucked by a skeletal dog I can't outrun and can't shoot and can't hit (despite having 0 encumberance) or something equally stupid
[editline]11th March 2016[/editline]
Like, looting isn't the problem, I literally don't make it far enough to be able to loot :v: The outskirts of every town has something that I absolutely can't kill as a beginner (mi-go's, zombie hulks etc) so it's not like I can really clear anything out. I pretty much end up running from something running into more stuff until i die[/QUOTE]
If all else fails find a tailoring book and reinforce all of your clothing. If you're wearing enough some of the basic zeds will only be able to damage you maybe 10% of the time. Also don't go anywhere beyond the most outer houses until you've gotten a few levels in your main combat skill. For an easier start take the scoundrel starting class and take Melee training: Eskrima, it turns you into a walking zombie blender while wielding the switchblade, or any knife really. Pretty sure it also works with machetes.
[QUOTE=M.Ciaster;49911647]a less ghetto version would be forgoing windows altogether and installing a camera system instead[/QUOTE]
I kinda did this once, not for ramming, but for sneaking, it worked well until the battery died, the zombies didn't see me and ignored me as long as I was quiet.
[QUOTE=Svinpels;49912216]I kinda did this once, not for ramming, but for sneaking, it worked well until the battery died, the zombies didn't see me and ignored me as long as I was quiet.[/QUOTE]
>battery
you don't put the glorious V8 in any vehicle you own? heretic
can't even properly be witnessed once you drive into a herd of moose and have all the ammo in your deathmobile explode on impact
[QUOTE=matt000024;49909902]as an experiment today i made a pretty cool and cheap ramming vehicle to loot a military outpost and managed to ram into the turrets with minimal damage to myself. i'll try to remember to post pictures tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
Here is it as promised
[t]http://i.imgur.com/2mgteuQ.png[/t]
Prior to ramming it had two mirrors which made it so I only had a tiny blind spot, but they fall off while ramming.
I love how it just shows the number of wheels as "enough". :weeb:
You haven't properly driven until your engine explodes after ramming one to many shrubs.
Noticed some sounds on the other side of the wall from my base despite clearing the area. Figured it was an animal or something but nope, Robocops. Fucking eyebot up north from where I was spawning the fuckers. [sp]a few shots from a glock later and free electrical parts[/sp]
also speaking of vehicles how the fuck do you get the guns to work on like anything?
[QUOTE=matt000024;49917030]also speaking of vehicles how the fuck do you get the guns to work on like anything?[/QUOTE]
mounted weapons don't actually fire on their own, you gotta stand on their square with empty hands and press shift+f
turrets can be enabled in the vehicle menu
The new nutrition aspect is weird. I ate a bunch of granola and the game bitched at me for not eating healthy.
[editline]13th March 2016[/editline]
Oh god I found a self-propelled howitzer.
[editline]13th March 2016[/editline]
It's immobile though but it fires, I randomly tested it only to find a bunch of blood splatters where the shell hit off screen.
So I finally got a character to survive. Hes a scoundrel that I found a kukri with and it's been fucking up zombies left and right on top of Eskrima doing constant parries/stuns
[editline]13th March 2016[/editline]
What are some warm, non encumbering clothes?
[QUOTE=Kylel999;49926706]So I finally got a character to survive. Hes a scoundrel that I found a kukri with and it's been fucking up zombies left and right on top of Eskrima doing constant parries/stuns
[editline]13th March 2016[/editline]
What are some warm, non encumbering clothes?[/QUOTE]
Anything Army Winter is really great.
[QUOTE=matt000024;49926959]Anything Army Winter is really great.[/QUOTE]
Unless they changed it, that stuff tends to be 20 encumbrance. I prefer a T-shirt, armored vest of some variety, standard army pants and arm warmers and long underwear as needed. Additional armor plating and backpack as needed.
[QUOTE=Anderan;49922707]The new nutrition aspect is weird. I ate a bunch of granola and the game bitched at me for not eating healthy.
[editline]13th March 2016[/editline]
Oh god I found a self-propelled howitzer.
[editline]13th March 2016[/editline]
It's immobile though but it fires, I randomly tested it only to find a bunch of blood splatters where the shell hit off screen.[/QUOTE]
protip: the actual howitzer gun only takes up one tile
i ripped one off and installed it on my bike
[editline]14th March 2016[/editline]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/xgDihto.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=M.Ciaster;49930478]protip: the actual howitzer gun only takes up one tile
i ripped one off and installed it on my bike
[editline]14th March 2016[/editline]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/xgDihto.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Can you use it to propel the bike forward by firing backwards?
I don't think physical recoil is a thing in the game. It'll deafen you for quite a while though.
Yes! I managed to get into a Fire Station. Never realized they had those mechanical winch doors. This is definitely going to be my base of operations from here on. There seems to be a severe lack of liquids on this world. I can't find water/sports drinks, only beer and vodka.. Luckily I have two hotplates and some batteries so that will keep me producing fresh water for a while.
Running to the Fire Station during the night, I ran into a Hulk who threw me into the darkness. I managed to get away with 42 pain.
Oh, and did I mention there's a fully working fire engine in the garage? With fuel and battery life?
[editline]14th March 2016[/editline]
There was just an explosion outside
A good source of water is rain, just make a makeshift funnel or find one and put it on a gallon jug or keg.
I'm pretty sure the version I have is from 2014 or somewhere around there, is it worth updating?
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