Fallout Thread V30: The universe where everyone is left handed - Games

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;51824237]Yeeep, but I think we're way past the point where you can argue 'technical limitations'. They already got this shit working for Skyrim they just didn't end up putting it in, and still haven't. Where my damn snow Bethesda[/QUOTE] I mean, there's rain in the Commonwealth. There isn't any snow because that's not the environment they're going for. [sp]though as i've said before, i'm the Commonwealth does have proper seasons for its region and we only see it in autumn, so there's probably snow in the winter[/sp]

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;51824237]Yeeep, but I think we're way past the point where you can argue 'technical limitations'. They already got this shit working for Skyrim they just didn't end up putting it in, and still haven't. Where my damn snow Bethesda[/QUOTE] In fairness, we only saw it implemented in a very small area and in what seemed to be a heavily accelerated form, so it could be that there are problems with putting it the game at large. I could see it causing performance issues on consoles, and I can easily see Bethesda wanting to avoid it because of how much else they could need to put into cells to support it. There could also be problems with the state of things not being consistent between areas (like going from the outside world to inside a city or into a cave with an open roof). Plus, there's the extra work that would need to go into building the system and setting up all the assets for it. Of course, none of this should stop Bethesda from implementing it with a new game, like they did with the verlet surfaces and the visual improvements in FO4, but it would require a lot of work with very little benefit.

[QUOTE=Stroheim;51824152]I would say that the blasted landscape is semi accurate, since the area was like cluster bombed.[/QUOTE] It's been [I]200 years[/I] though, realistically most of the radiation will have long since dissipated and greenery would have completely overgrown the landscape. Fallout 3's landscape would have been realistic if had been maybe <10, not 200.

[QUOTE=yodaman8888;51824156]Bethesda has gone on record stating the barren desert look of F3 was purely a conscious design choice. They ran weathering simulations of what D.C. would look like 200 years later and it was just lush green forest without the slightest trace of civilization. Would you have rather played that?[/QUOTE] No I would have rather played an overgrown city akin to The Last of Us. Don't know why you're trying to limit this to the extremes of no vegetation vs nothing but vegetation. [editline]a[/editline] That said, I'd much rather see them try and do that now instead of back in 2007. I can't imagine them making a decent looking massively overgrown D.C. at that point in time.

I don't know what to do. I am finding it hard to enjoy Fallout 4, like it's story, atmosphere, characters and so on. I don't explore every part of the map like I used to, the roleplaying part that I like in Fallout is butchered so I can't even make my character interesting. The game is easy and I am playing it on Survival Difficulty. And the performance is crap, breaks my immersion. I don't know what to do, should I just stop playing it and wait for some more mods to come in that would make it fun? Like a Doctor Who mod. Usually I am against modding my first playthrough but it's so boring. I just want to beat the game and never touch it again but what's the point of beating the game if I don't even like it.

[QUOTE=Samiam22;51824444]It's been [I]200 years[/I] though, realistically most of the radiation will have long since dissipated and greenery would have completely overgrown the landscape. Fallout 3's landscape would have been realistic if had been maybe <10, not 200.[/QUOTE] I swear it feels like people say this every thread. The capital wasteland wasn't just bombed and irradiated, there is also unchecked chemical runoff from nearby industry as well as mutated microbes and parasites from all the fev vault 87 has been leaking for all this time. Not to mention, because it was the nation's capital, china hit it with everything they could, including dirty bombs that the details about aren't fully known.

[QUOTE=Xonax;51824508]I don't know what to do. I am finding it hard to enjoy Fallout 4, like it's story, atmosphere, characters and so on. I don't explore every part of the map like I used to, the roleplaying part that I like in Fallout is butchered so I can't even make my character interesting. The game is easy and I am playing it on Survival Difficulty. And the performance is crap, breaks my immersion. I don't know what to do, should I just stop playing it and wait for some more mods to come in that would make it fun? Like a Doctor Who mod. Usually I am against modding my first playthrough but it's so boring. I just want to beat the game and never touch it again but what's the point of beating the game if I don't even like it.[/QUOTE] Go back to newvegas and never look back like meeeee.

[QUOTE=Man in the Moon;51824582]Go back to newvegas and never look back like meeeee.[/QUOTE] I probably will. New Vegas is so much better.

I've been reading the past several pages of the thread trying to get myself to want to try Fallout 4 again and the conclusion I've come to is also "just play new vegas" There's so much I'm not fond of about Fallout 4's design and balance that I'm not sure how to express it.

[QUOTE=Hidole555;51824622]I've been reading the past several pages of the thread trying to get myself to want to try Fallout 4 again and the conclusion I've come to is also "just play new vegas" There's so much I'm not fond of about Fallout 4's design and balance that I'm not sure how to express it.[/QUOTE] At least you didn't by the pip boy edition like I did :suicide: And if you did, I'm so sorry.

B-but my pipboy...

[QUOTE=Samiam22;51824444]It's been [I]200 years[/I] though, realistically most of the radiation will have long since dissipated and greenery would have completely overgrown the landscape. Fallout 3's landscape would have been realistic if had been maybe <10, not 200.[/QUOTE] my headcanon places the events of fallout 3 about 30 years after the end of the war

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51824709]my headcanon places the events of fallout 3 about 30 years after the end of the war[/QUOTE] tbh Fallout 3 starting 30 years after the series would have me more or less forgive the radical direction Beth took the series in. If the 3D fallouts were all about seeing how the east coast grew, just like how you saw the west coast grow in 1+2, they would have made a really good [I]addition[/I] to the series, rather than what feels like a replacement. But, they wouldn't have been able to lazily copy and paste Fallout iconography from the older games that way. So out with that idea, I guess.

[QUOTE=Hidole555;51824622]I've been reading the past several pages of the thread trying to get myself to want to try Fallout 4 again and the conclusion I've come to is also "just play new vegas" There's so much I'm not fond of about Fallout 4's design and balance that I'm not sure how to express it.[/QUOTE] It helps that New Vegas has a lot of mods that can tweak things significantly, while Fallout 4 - perhaps due to its year+ infancy, or perhaps because modifying some things in-depth is a goddamn nightmare - is nowhere near the amount of community love FNV gets.

I could of sworn it was because of SSE coming out and most modders moving to port their mods to it

I'm lowkey cut at Beth for releasing SSE I mean, pretty much only because it's apparently slowed down modding progress for us over on Fallout 4. But also like, skyrim is NOT the game you need to release a HD port of. Mods handle that for you. I'm pretty sure any decently modded skyrim looked better than the vanilla SSE.

[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;51824856]I'm lowkey cut at Beth for releasing SSE I mean, pretty much only because it's apparently slowed down modding progress for us over on Fallout 4. But also like, skyrim is NOT the game you need to release a HD port of. Mods handle that for you. I'm pretty sure any decently modded skyrim looked better than the vanilla SSE.[/QUOTE] HD remake wasn't the point; the point was giving consoles modding for sweet repurchase money. Also giving us a nice engine upgrade they had lying around anyways

Still salty. I thought we'd be [I]waaay[/I] further along with Fo4 modding by now. I've been waiting to give it a replay for months, but the game itself kills any motivation for me. I need some mods, man.

From what I've been reading Skyrim special edition being HD wasn't the big thing for PC. It was the conversion from 32-bit to 64-bit. Basically allows for a lot more modding without hiccups. On a side note I went to replay fallout 3 and it keeps crashing on my pc. I'm running Windows 10 x64, i7-2600, 16gb RAM, Asus ROG GTX1080 strix, 1tb Samsung SSD. I guess it's got something to do with the game not liking quad core CPUs. I wish they would do a special edition of fallout 3, New Vegas so they would be 64-bit and quad core CPU friendly with updated engine like SSE. Fallout 4 runs great for me on ultra with high resolution texture mods and the like. Good game so far :D

I love the feeling of walking on a really high up stretch of freeway, especially around like Lexington or some other semi-rural town areas.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;51824011]the Beth games were more Retro Future then Fo1 and 2.[/QUOTE] They were both equally retro-future. The difference was in the interpretation: Interplay's Fallout was a wide interpretation of what would happen if everything but the transistor continued to march into the future, resulting in bulky but ultra postmodern grunge that's more fitting of Robocop or Judge Dredd. Bethesda's Fallout does the same, but adds a strictly "Stall art culture out in the early 60's" rule: Everything's nuclear, the bad guys are red, and everything's built like a Chevrolet Bel-Air, but you can clearly see that the future continues to happen: Energy weapons, power armor, robots, portable fusion, etc. etc.

[QUOTE=redBadger;51824069]My thing is: after 200 years, wouldn't the vegetation and shit actually start to regrow?[/QUOTE] This was addressed in the Fallout 3 Artbook, and they said that they decided to disregard it and keep it destroyed for the sake of the art direction.

[QUOTE=Xonax;51824508]I don't know what to do. I am finding it hard to enjoy Fallout 4, like it's story, atmosphere, characters and so on. I don't explore every part of the map like I used to, the roleplaying part that I like in Fallout is butchered so I can't even make my character interesting. The game is easy and I am playing it on Survival Difficulty. And the performance is crap, breaks my immersion. I don't know what to do, should I just stop playing it and wait for some more mods to come in that would make it fun? Like a Doctor Who mod. Usually I am against modding my first playthrough but it's so boring. I just want to beat the game and never touch it again but what's the point of beating the game if I don't even like it.[/QUOTE] Fallout 4 is one of the most frustrating games for me in a long time. Not anything mechanically or gameplay wise, I just get so fucking bored while playing it despite wanting so badly to like it. There's something there that I can see as good, something I feel like I could like but I can't, I just can't. I only really remember a handful of quests being even remotely interesting and maybe two or three characters I liked. I have friends that got 3 or 400 hours just wandering around but I have no idea how.

[QUOTE=Anderan;51825442]Fallout 4 is one of the most frustrating games for me in a long time. Not anything mechanically or gameplay wise, I just get so fucking bored while playing it despite wanting so badly to like it. There's something there that I can see as good, something I feel like I could like but I can't, I just can't. I only really remember a handful of quests being even remotely interesting and maybe two or three characters I liked. I have friends that got 3 or 400 hours just wandering around but I have no idea how.[/QUOTE] THIS, this is what I was thinking. I couldn't put it into words It's also like, when I see gameplay footage, it looks fun, but when I am playing it myself, it is boring. It's like I am missing something. [editline]15th February 2017[/editline] I remember having some fun earlier in the game but it's just gone now. I guess it was just the hype of owning Fallout 4 and seeing all the new features.

[QUOTE=Anderan;51825442] I have friends that got 3 or 400 hours just wandering around but I have no idea how.[/QUOTE] Yeah how weird. How could anyone get that much time out of Fallout 4? [img]http://i.imgur.com/Z24gUK8.png[/img] :worried:

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;51825585]Yeah how weird. How could anyone get that much time out of Fallout 4? [img]http://i.imgur.com/Z24gUK8.png[/img] :worried:[/QUOTE] I'm slowly racking up hours playing on Survival because I'm overly careful. Also because saves corrupt for no reason and I often have to redo long hauls multiple times.

[QUOTE=DEMONSKUL;51825601]I'm slowly racking up hours playing on Survival because I'm overly careful. Also because saves corrupt for no reason and I often have to redo long hauls multiple times.[/QUOTE] That's one of the reasons why I have a quick save mod

[QUOTE=TheJoker;51825627]That's one of the reasons why I have a quick save mod[/QUOTE] Doesn't that defeat the purpose of Survival though? But hey, I don't see Beth fixing their shit anytime soon, so I guess I'll just look into that mod

[QUOTE=DEMONSKUL;51825656]Doesn't that defeat the purpose of Survival though? But hey, I don't see Beth fixing their shit anytime soon, so I guess I'll just look into that mod[/QUOTE] It does but it's better than having to redo 4 hrs of work because you hit a car and died. The only reason why I use it is because I don't feel like spending 20 mins going through my inventory and finding a sleeping bag ( [url]http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11734/[/url] ) or finding a random bed.

[QUOTE=DEMONSKUL;51825656]Doesn't that defeat the purpose of Survival though? But hey, I don't see Beth fixing their shit anytime soon, so I guess I'll just look into that mod[/QUOTE] There's loads of middle grounds in between no quicksaving and full quicksaving. There's a fairly well implemented mod out there that adds lootable holotapes that allow you to save. They're one use but fairly easy to come across and make survival [I]much[/I] less of a slog without allowing full quicksaving. I think it was made by someone from here?