• Fallout Thread V30: The universe where everyone is left handed
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I remember shooting a deathclaw in Vegas once and watching it casually achieve lift off and fly up into the sky and out of sight. Hell now that I think about it, this is a reoccurring thing in Bethesda games. It happened once in FO3, and in Skyrim the Mammoths straight up take lift off if you so much as look in their direction. And let's not forget the Giants who help [I]you[/I] achieve flight. Hell it happened to me in FO4 as well! A deathclaw I was fighting got close, picked me up and quite literally tossed me up into the fucking sky high above the city.
I've never laughed so much in a game as when I got killed by a giant in Skyrim
[video]https://youtu.be/U0OcT-xZZ_Q[/video] More frontier stuff
Never forget the protectron of Big Town. I did not even know that it was repairable during a quest before checking the wiki, since it blasts off to Commonwealth with 95% probability when you approach the location.
[QUOTE=Mattchewy;51836896][video]https://youtu.be/U0OcT-xZZ_Q[/video] More frontier stuff[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]...our sempai, Chris Avellone...[/QUOTE] Wat :weeb:
jsawyer is the better husbando [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/779370355206914048/utCWlrRz.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=DiscoInferno;51833434]The pains of having only four options...[/QUOTE] In some cases less because they reuse voicelines
[QUOTE=venom;51833435]It is a shame, but all the old RPGs had so many more dialogue options and much more fleshed out conversation topics, primarily because of how low-effort (and low-cost) it was to have text scroll the screen rather than a voice actor read off the line and have the model lip sync'd to it. I do wish RPGs would put more effort into being RPGs, but it seems like as the standards for graphics and gameplay go up, it leaves less room for developers to sperg out on dialogue, skills, quests, etc. :([/QUOTE] That and as it becomes more expensive to make these games, the less developers want to take chances. And unfortunately, lots of dialogue and intricate mechanics are rather chancy nowadays. There are some games that pull it off to varying degrees, but simpler games succeed much more consistently.
Honestly, I can't say I'm excited for Fallout: the Frontier. I find it hard to believe that the Legion could post a threat to any NCR force that doesn't have its head up its arse. It's slightly more plausable with the Praetorian of the story being ex-NCR but they're all cannon fodder and no brains stuck in a snowstorm. I'm surprised they let themselves have blankets for all their luddite stupidity.
Games go to mediocrity the moment they start needing safe choices to satisfy the publishers.
[QUOTE=DiscoInferno;51837564]Honestly, I can't say I'm excited for Fallout: the Frontier. I find it hard to believe that the Legion could post a threat to any NCR force that doesn't have its head up its arse. It's slightly more plausable with the Praetorian of the story being ex-NCR but they're all cannon fodder and no brains stuck in a snowstorm. I'm surprised they let themselves have blankets for all their luddite stupidity.[/QUOTE] The Legion is a [I]lot[/I] stronger than New Vegas makes them look (time restraints yadda yadda). They control (for the time being, anyways) the majority of the United States, and have a ridiculously large army by post-war standards. Also, while the NCR is probably a little better tactically, they have a really cumbersome chain of command and have to deal with a shitload of bureaucratic garbage; and IIRC the NCR group in the Frontier is cut off from the rest of the NCR. My only complaint with the Frontier is that some of their tech designs look way too high tech and modern.
Legion tactics are absolutely terrible tho. The strategies might be fine, but if the tactics are that bad... Use guns you fucks.
Do you think Beth would ever attempt a fallout MMO (again?) Happened with Skyrim after all, but I guess it's easier to make a fantasy MMO than other genre.
[QUOTE=The Jack;51837596]Legion tactics are absolutely terrible tho. The strategies might be fine, but if the tactics are that bad... Use guns you fucks.[/QUOTE] They're outdated too, with the holodisk libraries from control Vaults they could easily read up on the tactics of old Rome (Edward Sallow had to have read them somewhere himself too) and then they've got a very good grasp on where the Legion's battle strategy is inspired from.
[QUOTE=The Jack;51837596]Legion tactics are absolutely terrible tho. The strategies might be fine, but if the tactics are that bad... Use guns you fucks.[/QUOTE] they do, it's just the praetorians who use melee weapons exclusively insofar as shotgun fists are melee but w/e
[QUOTE=_charon;51837582]The Legion is a [I]lot[/I] stronger than New Vegas makes them look (time restraints yadda yadda). They control (for the time being, anyways) the majority of the United States, and have a ridiculously large army by post-war standards. Also, while the NCR is probably a little better tactically, they have a really cumbersome chain of command and have to deal with a shitload of bureaucratic garbage; and IIRC the NCR group in the Frontier is cut off from the rest of the NCR. My only complaint with the Frontier is that some of their tech designs look way too high tech and modern.[/QUOTE] How far can you throw a pointy stick compared to a firing a bullet? How many educational resources does the NCR have compared to the largely illiterate, tribal Legion who would sooner destroy a holotape library than read it? Who has medical technology, like, at all? Numbers don't win battles, it was the Roman Empire themselves that knew that with their well-documented trained fighting forces and tactics.
[QUOTE=_charon;51837582]The Legion is a [I]lot[/I] stronger than New Vegas makes them look (time restraints yadda yadda). [B]They control (for the time being, anyways) the majority of the United States[/B], and have a ridiculously large army by post-war standards. Also, while the NCR is probably a little better tactically, they have a really cumbersome chain of command and have to deal with a shitload of bureaucratic garbage; and IIRC the NCR group in the Frontier is cut off from the rest of the NCR. My only complaint with the Frontier is that some of their tech designs look way too high tech and modern.[/QUOTE] I can't find anything to suggest they control the majority of the US. According to Caesar himself, they have "much of the Utah and Colorado, and all of Arizona and New Mexico". Obviously they gain control of the Mojave Wasteland if the player sides with them in NV, but the same could be said of the NCR.
[QUOTE=The Jack;51837596]Legion tactics are absolutely terrible tho. The strategies might be fine, but if the tactics are that bad... Use guns you fucks.[/QUOTE] I mean it's a vast army of slaves, The legion probably has more bodies available than firearms. Plus reliance on technology is disdainful under the legion's creed.
[QUOTE=fulgrim;51837687]I mean it's a vast army of slaves, The legion probably has more bodies available than firearms.[/QUOTE] This is exactly it. They don't have the means (or desire) to supply all their men with the best gear, but they [I]do[/I] have a shitload of fearless cannon fodder to throw at anyone who crosses them, backed up by whoever is tough enough to survive being cannon fodder and become a gun-toting badass.
And all it took was one really pissed off Courier to potentially sweep their entire force (besides the Hoover Dam battle but still).
[QUOTE=_charon;51837697]This is exactly it. They don't have the means (or desire) to supply all their men with the best gear, but they [I]do[/I] have a shitload of fearless cannon fodder to throw at anyone who crosses them, backed up by whoever is tough enough to survive being cannon fodder and become a gun-toting badass.[/QUOTE] No matter how many bullets happen to miss you it doesn't mean that any bullets that do hit you will be any less deadly.
[QUOTE=RikohZX;51837711]And all it took was one really pissed off Courier to potentially sweep their entire force (besides the Hoover Dam battle but still).[/QUOTE] I mean, it's a Fallout Protagonist you are talking about, they can pretty much do anything. [QUOTE=DiscoInferno;51837727]No matter how many bullets happen to miss you it doesn't mean that any bullets that do hit you will be any less deadly.[/QUOTE] Those that die aren't worth anything to the Legion anyway, I mean, it doesn't really matter who they lose in the long run, just as long as the job is done by the end of it.
So after starting a new game after my previous character broke, I encountered a new problem. My character suddenly went black face out of no where. I thought it was a lighting issue at first, but nope. He did it somehow. Thankfully a previous save 10 minutes earlier didn't have him blackface. I think I might be cursed, and some higher force of power doesn't want me to play Fallout 4.
[QUOTE=DiscoInferno;51837727]No matter how many bullets happen to miss you it doesn't mean that any bullets that do hit you will be any less deadly.[/QUOTE] And the cannon fodder dies and more keep coming The Legion isn't going to last forever like that, but I think that's kind of the idea. They're a regime that will either take power fast, or die horribly. [URL="http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/images/66179/?"] In unrelated news, I think I've found the weirdest thing on the Nexus Imageshare[/URL] [t]https://s3.postimg.org/4yid1nzf7/image.jpg[/t][t]https://s31.postimg.org/eq3l8np8r/image.jpg[/t] One of these character is Danse. Figure out which one. [t]https://s28.postimg.org/uv380ixhp/image.jpg[/t] ??? [t]https://s16.postimg.org/iwvjocqlh/image.jpg[/t] [B]???[/B] [t]https://s15.postimg.org/5bvkxv6cb/Z91.jpg[/t] [B][I]???[/I][/B]
[QUOTE=_Maverick_;51837619]Do you think Beth would ever attempt a fallout MMO (again?) Happened with Skyrim after all, but I guess it's easier to make a fantasy MMO than other genre.[/QUOTE] Possibly, but since this is Bethesda we're talking about they would probably fuck it up.
I mean, The legion's strength is it's numbers and the unflinching loyalty of the legionaries. It's all well and good having the best equipment and training available, but when you have 5 men with combat armour and sniper rifles defending a camp against 50 men in rags waving machetes- It doesn't matter if you kill a full half of their number before they reach you, chances are you are still going to be hacked to pieces by whoever is left.
[QUOTE=_charon;51837747]elf weeb shit[/QUOTE] I've seen far weirder than that on the old Oblivion Nexus.
[QUOTE=fulgrim;51837750]I mean, The legion's strength is it's numbers and the unflinching loyalty of the legionaries. It's all well and good having the best equipment and training available, but when you have 5 men with combat armour and sniper rifles defending a camp against 50 men in rags waving machetes- It doesn't matter if you kill a full half of their number before they reach you, chances are you are still going to be hacked to pieces by whoever is left.[/QUOTE] Zulu comes to mind.
Easy, shoot while running away.
[QUOTE=DiscoInferno;51837776]Easy, shoot while running away.[/QUOTE] Then you lost the fight because you abandoned your position
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