Escape From Tarkov - "The DayZ you've been looking for! (minus the zombies)"
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Yep, That's desync, if you play long enough eventually you get to try that out from the other side. Had a match where I gained desync immortality and managed to take on all the scavs on factory without armor. Took several direct hits to the head/chest from shotguns/pms and never lost any health. Makes you feel like a god, but getting ganked by it like you did is really terrible.
[QUOTE=Araknid;52541602]How exactly does the alpha container work?
Everything you put in it + the container itself gets put in the stash if you die?[/QUOTE]
You keep the container and all items in the same slot on your person, just never remove the secured container.
[QUOTE=Linkage;52541613]Can someone explain the insurance system the game has? My understanding is it says it returns your stuff if it wasn't taken. Now, why would I insure something if it wasn't worth taking? If someone has shot me dead they're sure as shit going to take my weaponry so what exactly is the point of insuring it?
Have I understood it wrong?[/QUOTE]
You can die to scavs in which case someone will have to find your body, and even if someone does loot you, they still have to make it to the escape without dying to scavs or players themselves.
Whats also nice about insuring is that if you are shot to shit and are sure you wont make it to the exit, you can just hide your shit in a bush and then run away and die, the enemy will never find it. ALSO if you have insured weapons and clothing on you and want to loot some more, you can just drop your insured stuff in a bush and replace them with the stuff you found and extract, so you can get both sets out of the raid.
Said fuck it and bought the game, I know my password but it doesn't work and the password reset email refuses to show up. Welp.
[QUOTE=CommanderPT;52543111]Said fuck it and bought the game, I know my password but it doesn't work and the password reset email refuses to show up. Welp.[/QUOTE]
Their emails often land in spam for me, so make sure to check that.
[QUOTE=nutcake;52543173]Their emails often land in spam for me, so make sure to check that.[/QUOTE]
All of their emails so far have not ended up in spam and nothing is in there. Requested password reset over half an hour ago so I guess I'm shit out of luck.
Edit:
The slumbering password reset server seems to live again.
[QUOTE=nutcake;52542585]Whats also nice about insuring is that if you are shot to shit and are sure you wont make it to the exit, you can just hide your shit in a bush and then run away and die, the enemy will never find it. ALSO if you have insured weapons and clothing on you and want to loot some more, you can just drop your insured stuff in a bush and replace them with the stuff you found and extract, so you can get both sets out of the raid.[/QUOTE]
I guess what I'm trying to say is, I insure my car for a year, if someone steals my car I either get a replacement or I get paid x amount of dollars for the cars worth (or whatever set amount I pay for in my policy).
Wouldn't it be easier to just say look, you've insured your AK/M4/Shotgun whatever, pay the excess on the policy and we'll replace the weapon system? At the moment its not really insurance in any known form.
[QUOTE=Linkage;52544134]I guess what I'm trying to say is, I insure my car for a year, if someone steals my car I either get a replacement or I get paid x amount of dollars for the cars worth (or whatever set amount I pay for in my policy).
Wouldn't it be easier to just say look, you've insured your AK/M4/Shotgun whatever, pay the excess on the policy and we'll replace the weapon system? At the moment its not really insurance in any known form.[/QUOTE]
I look at the insurance thing as a small RNG chance to get your stuff back. I'm glad it isn't 100 percent replacement if you die because people would build up badass weapons and get it back no matter what.
Like Nutcake said, if I get hit and know I'm going to die I usually go find somewhere to die peacefully and get my stuff back later.
Game is very much about risk vs reward and if you fuck up you feel it..
But could they not just up the insurance prices as a disincentive to just insuring everything and getting it all back every time you die? Plus add an excess you have to pay like in real life if something does happen to your gear/it goes missing.
An alternative might be instead of getting a clone of your gear back they could pay you almost market price for what your weapon would be worth, minus the cost of your insurance excess so you don't really get a benefit from dying you still lose out and have to repurchase your weapon/gear or find something similar in the field again.
[QUOTE=nutcake;52542068]You underestimate the power of the desync. It is fucking awful right now, pretty much unplayable.[/QUOTE]
Does the game still tell you that you landed hits if it's desync? I just had a game where I spawned with Makarov, ran into a naked player, shot him 6 times (which death screen confirmed) and he still ran up to me and one shot me with the hatchet.
By the way, fuck hatchet players.
Fuck's sake I've been trying to buy this for like a few hours now. If I try buying it using a card directly, it just gives me a "payment failed" thing, I tried using amazon pay, I got an amazon email saying the payment has been confirmed but it hasn't charged me and nothing has happened since then (it's been like an hour and a half). I try paypal but then paypal tells me my card's been declined and asks me to add a new card even though my card is perfectly fine cause I've used it with paypal a million times.
I got killed in woods, immediately started a scav run, and spawned within 2 mins of my corpse. I got everything back and escaped no problem, talk about lucky!
[QUOTE=Linkage;52544545]But could they not just up the insurance prices as a disincentive to just insuring everything and getting it all back every time you die? Plus add an excess you have to pay like in real life if something does happen to your gear/it goes missing.
An alternative might be instead of getting a clone of your gear back they could pay you almost market price for what your weapon would be worth, minus the cost of your insurance excess so you don't really get a benefit from dying you still lose out and have to repurchase your weapon/gear or find something similar in the field again.[/QUOTE]
What's to stop me from giving all my gear to my friend. Then just buying it back cheaper later with your proposed system?
i think insurance is a good thing in the end. before insurance, in the alpha, everyone was terrified to bring their pimp cannons out in to battle because they knew if they'd die they'd lose it, and with it all of that time and money spent finding the parts that made it special
i mean, really, nobody saw anyone in the field with M4s or super insanely modded AKs until the end of the alpha, because up until then they just couldn't afford to replace it
Fucking finally I managed to buy it, I tried like eight different things until I finally tried making a Skrill account and using that and that seemed to work perfectly fine.
Anyone else having problems with border less window mode not capturing your mouse?
[QUOTE=CommanderPT;52545763]Anyone else having problems with border less window mode not capturing your mouse?[/QUOTE]
You just gotta click in the screen a couple times for it stay whilst playing
I really want to get into this game, but I'm having a hard time. So after trying and failing playing as my PMC character a few times, I decided to equip a hatchet and go kill some scavs in factory. I enabled offline mode just to get some experience under my belt until I was more proficient at combat. After trying and dying horribly a few times, I killed a scav with my hatchet, stole his gun, killed another, got an AK, killed some more, and after killing about half a dozen, I get popped in the head by another AI with only about a quarter second's warning. I know that I'm supposed to take a Dark Souls approach to this game, and learn through experience, but without even basic body armor being available at starting levels, the learning curve's more like a brick wall. A thousand feet high.
[QUOTE=archangel125;52546327]I really want to get into this game, but I'm having a hard time. So after trying and failing playing as my PMC character a few times, I decided to equip a hatchet and go kill some scavs in factory. I enabled offline mode just to get some experience under my belt until I was more proficient at combat. After trying and dying horribly a few times, I killed a scav with my hatchet, stole his gun, killed another, got an AK, killed some more, and after killing about half a dozen, I get popped in the head by another AI with only about a quarter second's warning. I know that I'm supposed to take a Dark Souls approach to this game, and learn through experience, but without even basic body armor being available at starting levels, the learning curve's more like a brick wall. A thousand feet high.[/QUOTE]
I've generally just been scav at factory and avoided shooting other scavs (since they won't shoot you unless you shoot them), just looting dead bodies and crates and whatever else.
Doing that I've basically managed to collect 4 AKS-74Us, an AK-74, 9 magazines, a shitload of Grach + magazines, backpacks, vests, etc.
Scav is much, MUCH easier to play than PMC since you won't have to worry about AI scavs as much.
Basically I hop on, play scav, escape or die, do something else for an hour, hop back on, etc etc
Been staying away from my PMC character until they fix the AI and desync issues.
the biggest thing about escape from tarkov is that playing "safely" gets you killed 90% of the time. it's all about rushing. you have to be fast. you have to surprise other people. you have to have incredible map knowledge, so you have to know where scav spawns are going to be and you have to be aware of the game time and where other players are going to potentially be according to the time
there's a LOT of stuff you have to know and prepare for while on the move from the second you join the match to the second you leave. if you get in to an engagement, get EXTREMELY hostile. 100% of the time, other players will not expect you to charge face-first in to them and they will panic and try to run away to hide or if you duck behind cover, most of the players are call of duty kids who reload their gun and you can often pop back out and get them mid-reload.
armor is everything. armor is life. even basic paca armor adds retarded amounts of value to your life
if you cannot afford a gun, play scav. follow scav AI and assist them in killing players. The second you find any decent loot, get out. even just showing up in to a match and going straight to the exit gives you plenty of useful experience points
but in the end you will die. a lot. like we're talking a few hundred times a lot. but eventually you'll have a breakthrough and you'll be storming maps at full-throttle with a cheapo shotgun and no armor and you'll be killing every player you stumble across and scavs will be nothing more than background noise. until you meet mr desync
I gotta say though, shitty desync and aimbotting AI aside, the gunplay in this game is fucking great.
The way guns handle, the way they aim, the way they sound, is probably the best I've used in any game. They really nailed it.
[QUOTE=archangel125;52546327]I really want to get into this game, but I'm having a hard time. So after trying and failing playing as my PMC character a few times, I decided to equip a hatchet and go kill some scavs in factory. I enabled offline mode just to get some experience under my belt until I was more proficient at combat. After trying and dying horribly a few times, I killed a scav with my hatchet, stole his gun, killed another, got an AK, killed some more, and after killing about half a dozen, I get popped in the head by another AI with only about a quarter second's warning. I know that I'm supposed to take a Dark Souls approach to this game, and learn through experience, but without even basic body armor being available at starting levels, the learning curve's more like a brick wall. A thousand feet high.[/QUOTE]
Buy a ton of Makarovs from Prapor and just go factory running over and over again. Put valuable stuff in your container and see if you can steal a few weapons.
When you just spawned in a fresh instance, AI scavs will take a good 30 seconds to spawn, so you have time to get to the apartment thingy above the locker rooms in factory and get some good loot. Theres a safe under the table in the big room, so make sure to always check that. There are also some filing cabinets in the corner (you can open each drawer individually) and two jackets on the wall. One of the doors further down the corridor (without the metal bars) cannot be opened normally but must be breached. The room usually contains a pack of ammo or two.
Sell all the shit you found, going from the bottom up in the trader list, so selling to peacekeeper first, then skier and so on but skip fence, his prices are shit, but he buys anything the other traders wont. Also, if you want to sell a gun to peacekeeper you have to take the bullet out of the chamber first. Peacekeeper is supposed to only buy weapons that were never fired and taking the bullet out is an exploit to get around that. Also, before selling shit, see if there are any good trade deals with the traders first. For example, you can trade in 4 blackrock wests for an AK74N at Prapor.
[editline]7th August 2017[/editline]
Also when looting a scav, make sure to take everything you can carry, that includes tactical glasses and balaclavas and the like, they can be sold to peacekeeper for like $8.
I usually follow this route: go to shoreline - run through the village - run through the abandoned village - loot the crate behind truck - go up the hill in front of this crate - follow the fence to another stack of crates - follow the fence to the exit - kill scavs at the extraction point and loot them - escape. Works 70% of the time.
So how do rounds work in tarkov? I often spawn and find dead people right away and somebody here said they respawned into the same round as a scav or something? Are they persistent? As in new people keep spawning in to maintain max number of players? Since there is usually a timer for the round, like 40 min. I assumed you die by default if you don't leave within that timeframe.
Looks like AI got a serverside update to make them a tad easier: [url]http://forum.escapefromtarkov.com/topic/26352-scav-ai/?page=57#comment-595532[/url]
[QUOTE=CommanderPT;52547269]So how do rounds work in tarkov? I often spawn and find dead people right away and somebody here said they respawned into the same round as a scav or something? Are they persistent? As in new people keep spawning in to maintain max number of players? Since there is usually a timer for the round, like 40 min. I assumed you die by default if you don't leave within that timeframe.[/QUOTE]
The way it works is that there is the initial spawn of all player PMCs, and 30 seconds after (on factory at least) AI scavs begin to spawn. The Player pmcs can spawn as fast as they can load but it will wait to get everyone connecting to the server. After about 7 minutes (on factory) and about 3 on shoreline, Player SCAVs can spawn. Player scavs will only spawn once and no more players will enter the match after that. If you die in a game and it has been long enough, you have a chance of loading back into the same game as a scav, but it is minimal. Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.
One last thing, how does offline work anyways? So you don't get save anything which makes sense but if you enable ai scavs and start shooting, does it use up your ammo or can you freely mess around?
[QUOTE=CommanderPT;52547789]One last thing, how does offline work anyways? So you don't get save anything which makes sense but if you enable ai scavs and start shooting, does it use up your ammo or can you freely mess around?[/QUOTE]
Nothing you do in offline gets saved any way. When you end an offline game, your inventory and stats will just be exactly as you was before.
Well, fellas, I took all of your advice, and I've actually finally started building a stash of stuff. I have lots of scav vests, a few shotguns, and Grach pistols+ ammo, and have found a few interesting goodies around the way. I think I'll keep this sort of strategy up until I unlock body armor, and then venture out with a fully equipped PC and really get into the game.
Don't know if this is considered foolish, but I generally try not to shoot other players except in self defense.
[QUOTE=archangel125;52547891]Well, fellas, I took all of your advice, and I've actually finally started building a stash of stuff. I have lots of scav vests, a few shotguns, and Grach pistols+ ammo, and have found a few interesting goodies around the way. I think I'll keep this sort of strategy up until I unlock body armor, and then venture out with a fully equipped PC and really get into the game.
Don't know if this is considered foolish, but I generally try not to shoot other players except in self defense.[/QUOTE]
Unless it's scav on scav I generally shoot everyone, just to be safe and for that sweet sweet experience. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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