Overwatch - Ver Fast Sombra Hacking at Incredible Hihg Speed - Games

I haven't been keeping up with things but didn't they explicitly state that they weren't going to add stealth characters?

[QUOTE=ClauAmericano;51312775][video=youtube;DUh6vWazVks]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUh6vWazVks[/video][/QUOTE] He [b]REALLY[/b] must love his job.

[QUOTE=Thlis;51312941]I haven't been keeping up with things but didn't they explicitly state that they weren't going to add stealth characters?[/QUOTE] From my understanding they said they didn't want to add a stealth character....until they could get them to play right. Because stealth was originally in Genji's kit.

[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;51312915]I really hope all this complaining about Sombra doesn't cause her to be pretty much nerfed to uselessness by the time she even hits the main game.[/QUOTE] Remember Bastion? The only time he went through significant nerfs was back when they thought it was a good idea to give him a Reinhardt shield in turret mode, despite all the complaints at launch.

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[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;51312655]Sombra starting to sound like a must have pick on any team.[/QUOTE] I dunno about her being OP per se, but I am wondering why anyone would ever run Tracer again when you can fill that same role AND knock down shields/healthpacks.

[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;51312948]From my understanding they said they didn't want to add a stealth character....until they could get them to play right. Because stealth was originally in Genji's kit.[/QUOTE] I really don't understand what they were thinking when they decided to add speed boosted invisibility with invulnerable teleportation that doesn't need line of sight and can be activated at any time. And the stealth and teleportation aren't even ults, it's any time abilities.

Winston counters Sombra so hard it's funny.

[QUOTE=Grandzeit;51312949]Remember Bastion? The only time he went through significant nerfs was back when they thought it was a good idea to give him a Reinhardt shield in turret mode, despite all the complaints at launch.[/QUOTE] If you think Bastion changes during beta were a nerf boy do I have some news for you. Closed beta Bastion was even more of a "once you learn how to counter him he becomes a joke" hero than he is right now. He was stuck in a half sphere of vision, if you wanted to look behind you had to switch modes, turn around and switch back to turret mode. And that took almost thrice as long as right now.

[QUOTE=Damjen;51312974]If you think Bastion changes during beta were a nerf boy do I have some news for you. Closed beta Bastion was even more of a "once you learn how to counter him he becomes a joke" hero than he is right now. He was stuck in a half sphere of vision, if you wanted to look behind you had to switch modes, turn around and switch back to turret mode. And that took almost thrice as long as right now.[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;PA412mg93aI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA412mg93aI[/video]

[QUOTE=Killajax;51312943]He [b]REALLY[/b] must love his job.[/QUOTE] Who wouldn't like to be Reinhardt?

[QUOTE=Grandzeit;51312979][video=youtube;PA412mg93aI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA412mg93aI[/video][/QUOTE] IGN. You are using IGN as your source of information... No comment.

AND the health kits regen super fast. Like damn, that last Anubis cap (and many other maps) has a couple of key spawns. I know I wasn't terrified of Ana when she was revealed...

[QUOTE=Damjen;51312987]IGN. You are using IGN as your source of information... No comment.[/QUOTE] No need to be childish. IGN or not doesn't change that he had a shield which gave him an obscene health bonus at first, and the 90* turning wasn't an issue if you sat snug in a corner where nobody could reach your weak spot either. It made you neigh impossible to kill, unless something like a Junkrat sat back and fired two entire clips at you undisturbed. Even Tracer's bomb couldn't stop him. After that, they felt Bastion was where he should be, despite people complaining about his current iteration endlessly at launch. People learned to deal with him, though that just wasn't a possibility way back in beta.

I think you guysare really overblowing her skills. Damage alone makes two of her skills useless and her only source of real damage is her gun. I don't see her replacing Tracer, because Tracer's abilities are better for straight up fight than Sombra's. I've said this a billion times already, but the only thing I worry about is the fact that her ult seems to have 0 counterplay.

I just don't think it is fair to judge a character that no one has experience in playing as or against yet. Her only source of damage is her gun. None of her abilities cause any sort of health damage to the enemy. Her stealth, pretty much everything knocks her out of it. So it can really only be used to get to the battlefield faster or do a quick sneak behind the team by an alternate pathway. Which other heroes are able to do the same thing without being detected. Her wallhack passive is not as bad as it sounds. Because if you see an enemy with low health. You are already close enough to be doing that damage or you just see an enemy being attacked by a teammate. Which don't forget you can always see your teammates through walls. So you can already see where an enemy is if you see a teammate taking damage. Her teleport is the only thing that worries me only because of how fast it charges back up. The timer it can be kept out on the battlefield could be shortened down a bit as well. Her hack is a risk vs. reward. To be effective you have to sneak up and hope you don't get seen during the hack or you take damage and the hack ends which you loose the opportunity to hack that enemy again till they no longer focus on you. It doesn't seem effective against the people that are not super reliant on their abilities. Soldier 76, Symmetra, Widowmaker, Hanzo, Maybe: Reaper and Pharah if she is spending a lot of time in the air out of hack's reach I think her ult is fair because well. It's an ult. It highly depends on how long it takes to charge. Because it can be really annoying being in a Sombra ult every couple seconds. Since her ult is line of sight, a Winston or Rein can cancel out the ult to most of their team as long as they have shield ready.

[QUOTE=Captain;51313057]I think you guysare really overblowing her skills. Damage alone makes two of her skills useless and her only source of real damage is her gun. I don't see her replacing Tracer, because Tracer's abilities are better for straight up fight than Sombra's. I've said this a billion times already, but the only thing I worry about is the fact that her ult seems to have 0 counterplay.[/QUOTE] Her ultimate just requires her to be sort-of close and have line of sight. It won't go through barriers and Reinhardt's shield, though it should go through Payloads like Reinhardt's Earthshatter. She would be able to just toss her teleporter into a group of people and use it at the cost of her own life, unless they make it destructible in PTR/Live.

bet her melee is hitting a hero with an iphone

[QUOTE=Grandzeit;51313014]No need to be childish. IGN or not doesn't change that he had a shield which gave him an obscene health bonus at first, and the 90* turning wasn't an issue if you sat snug in a corner where nobody could reach your weak spot either. It made you neigh impossible to kill, unless something like a Junkrat sat back and fired two entire clips at you undisturbed. Even Tracer's bomb couldn't stop him. After that, they felt Bastion was where he should be, despite people complaining about his current iteration endlessly at launch. People learned to deal with him, though that just wasn't a possibility way back in beta.[/QUOTE] I really hope they don't think Bastion is fine as he is now. He only serves to make life miserable for teams that struggle to muster together a push to begin with. Otherwise he's too vulnerable to too many different classes to hold a position for long, but he also lacks any ability outside of his ultimate to take back lost ground.

Does anyone have a link to that cool third party Bastion figure? The one that transforms? [B]EDIT:[/B] Found the gallery! [url]http://imgur.com/a/GRIp2[/url] I really want him.

Do you think new Torbjorn can be considered as a defence counter pick for Sombra's ult? With new passive armor generation he can just spawn bunch of armor packs next to objective/point and once things go whild his team can just go there and pick up some armor, for better survivability (unless they all were blackholled/stunned and died in process) Its not like Sombra can disable armor packs, can she?

[QUOTE=Grandzeit;51313083]It won't go through barriers and Reinhardt's shield.[/QUOTE] Really? I thought the whole point of the ult was that it destroyed them.

[QUOTE=Captain;51313160]Really? I thought the whole point of the ult was that it destroyed them.[/QUOTE] afaik she still has to get behind them to do it. thats how it is with her regular hack at least.

[QUOTE=DemonDog;51313187]afaik she still has to get behind them to do it. thats how it is with her regular hack at least.[/QUOTE] Nah, I'm pretty sure her ult goes through shields. -edit- [URL="https://youtu.be/Gnw56QObL2U?t=24m30s"]Yeah, I found the clip.[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bugga12;51312365]-snip- You know, not even gonna give you the satisfaction.[/QUOTE] I've had him on my ignore list for around the past week. I'd suggest you do the same, saves me quite a bit of sanity.

Anyone know aprox how much longer season 2 will last?

[QUOTE=Grandzeit;51313083]Her ultimate just requires her to be sort-of close and have line of sight. It won't go through barriers and Reinhardt's shield, though it should go through Payloads like Reinhardt's Earthshatter. She would be able to just toss her teleporter into a group of people and use it at the cost of her own life, unless they make it destructible in PTR/Live.[/QUOTE] Her ultimate destroys shields immediately on activation?

If her ult really is stopped by shields, then I think it's going to be perfectly fine. Even if it destroys the shields, but doesn't apply the silence, then that's fine too. But if it does both, then it's going to be overpowered if it stays instant cast.

[QUOTE=booster;51313217]Anyone know aprox how much longer season 2 will last?[/QUOTE] November 17th, with a week difference between the end of Season 2 and the beginning of Season 3.

[QUOTE=Captain;51313057]I've said this a billion times already, but the only thing I worry about is the fact that her ult seems to have 0 counterplay.[/QUOTE] I'm guessing if Sombra doesn't have a Lucio-esque wind-up she'll get one eventually so you can shoot her prior to her EMP coming out.