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Try out other supports, if things go about as well healing-wise then don't worry about it.

my general philosophy is that each no one should complain if you are playing support. anyone that is like "Hey support player, please play X" is a total douche bc if they really want someone to play Lucio or Anna or Mercy, THEY should play that character :\

[QUOTE=Flameon;51314626]my general philosophy is that each no one should complain if you are playing support. anyone that is like "Hey support player, please play X" is a total douche bc if they really want someone to play Lucio or Anna or Mercy, THEY should play that character :\[/QUOTE] If a healer isn't fulfilling a role on a certain map I don't see why they shouldn't feel free to ask, sometimes a situation calls more for a mercy or ana than a lucio. (Unless you're speaking more about quickplay)

[QUOTE=Furnost;51314585]im already playing a healer though, its not like im saying i only wanna play DPS and nothing else[/QUOTE] Within the same class there are pros and cons to each hero. If that weren't the case, we'd only need 4. If you've only got one healer on the team, it probably shouldn't be Ana.

[QUOTE=Furnost;51314585]when i said "if im an awful ana" i was saying that hypothetically, i know theres no way its me being bad at ana. my friend who mains ana has about the same amount of playtime as me on her, yet they have 400 less healing/min than i do, and pretty much every other tracked stat is lower compared to mine. yet they have a 52% wr on her while i have 39%. i play ana basically better than they do yet they have the better winrate? and again, dont see why [i]i[/i] should be the one to pick something else because my team needs it. seeing as how its QP its someone else making a bad comp choice. i switch off of ana to lucio and our tanks are basically shit out of luck for healing. itd be better if someone else went lucio. hell im better at ana or mercy than i am at lucio so im sure id be best on those two (and seeing how mercy is a trash pick right now ana is the better choice) [editline]5th November 2016[/editline] im already playing a healer though, its not like im saying i only wanna play DPS and nothing else[/QUOTE] You have a low ana winrate because ana isn't as good for being a main healer as lucio and if you're picking ana all the time even when you have like a zen or a mercy or no other healers at all then you're going to have a low winrate. It's quickplay, it's not that big of a deal, but that's probably why you have a low winrate as Ana, because often an Ana isn't the best choice.

[QUOTE=Flameon;51314626]my general philosophy is that each no one should complain if you are playing support. anyone that is like "Hey support player, please play X" is a total douche bc if they really want someone to play Lucio or Anna or Mercy, THEY should play that character :\[/QUOTE] No. Not all supports are equal for all team comps, or all situations. Anybody should be able to make team recommendations.

[QUOTE=Flameon;51314626]my general philosophy is that each no one should complain if you are playing support. anyone that is like "Hey support player, please play X" is a total douche bc if they really want someone to play Lucio or Anna or Mercy, THEY should play that character :\[/QUOTE] EDIT: Nevermind, I'm dumb. Still though, if your logic is that nobody should swap from support because they're playing support, what if they're just playing Lucio and trying to play DPS or they never swap to healing (I've seen this more than a few times, it's kind of frustrating)? What if your Ana is trying to play Ana as a DPS hero (I've seen that more than a few times as well.), or what if your Mercy is being countered by a Genji, or a D.Va, or a Tracer? it's entirely illogical that you wouldn't have the support change from their hero to another, Mercy is being hard countered, she swaps to Lucio.

[QUOTE=Flameon;51314626]my general philosophy is that each no one should complain if you are playing support. anyone that is like "Hey support player, please play X" is a total douche bc if they really want someone to play Lucio or Anna or Mercy, THEY should play that character :\[/QUOTE] So if I play Symmetra you won't complain?

I feel dirty playing lucio for playing a character that's pretty broken OP by design tho maybe sombra will fix that

[QUOTE=Oizen;51314741]So if I play Symmetra you won't complain?[/QUOTE] You're kind of just rubbing salt into the wounds there, most people consider "Support" as "Healer" and to be fair, that's what the role should be called, I'm relatively sure Flameon meant healer rather than generalizing the whole support role.

Symmetra is a support hero who gives 25 extra health that regenerates itself. That is healing.

[QUOTE=Oizen;51314844]Symmetra is a support hero who gives 25 extra health that regenerates itself. That is healing.[/QUOTE] Alright, to be honest, you got me there. :v:

I'm really worried about dealing with Sombra's ult. The ability to completely turn off Lucio's soundbarrier and turn it into nothing, AND the ability to force Zen into being a 50 hp hero while it's up (which is basically a free kill to anyone) seems a tad too strong. It's bad enough that when she uses her ult, Zen temporarily turns into nothing but a slow moving DPS until he regains his ability to use his orbs again, but dropping him down to a meager 50hp while doing so seems like massive overkill. Dropping Zarya down to only 200 HP seems a bit much as well. On top of her not being able to try and deal with the HP loss with her barriers. I think they should remove the shield destruction, shutting down all abilities in her ult range seems like more than enough. Though I did just now notice something while typing that out. One of her abilities is a hack that disables abilities. Her ult is the same thing, just bigger. She'll be the first hero that has an ult that overlaps with her current abilities, making her hack pointless once she's used her ult. That also means when her ult ends, she can then immediately hack anyone who survived, forcing them out of abilities for a damn long time in total.

Zarya deserves to have a hero who fucks her over.

[QUOTE=Oizen;51314935]Zarya deserves to have a hero who fucks her over.[/QUOTE] So does Lucio, so it's a win win.

So feel free to correct me: But Ana on her own can't actually contribute as much as other healers like Mercy and Lucio right?

[QUOTE=SoftHearted;51314966]So feel free to correct me: But Ana on her own can't actually contribute as much as other healers like Mercy and Lucio right?[/QUOTE] Ana is the best solohealer there is, Mercy and Lucio are trash at solo healing

[QUOTE=SoftHearted;51314966]So feel free to correct me: But Ana on her own can't actually contribute as much as other healers like Mercy and Lucio right?[/QUOTE] Nope, she can outperform them easily.

[QUOTE=gk99;51314581]Does your team feel the same way? I hate playing Mercy, but if everyone else is heroes we need but we don't have a healer, I have no problem keeping the team alive. [sp]I'm not a very good Lucio, Ana doesn't heal fast enough for my liking, and I still haven't tried Symmetra or Zenyatta[/sp][/QUOTE] You've owned the game for like three days and you've already got the "fucking hell these people" mindset.

[QUOTE=SoftHearted;51314966]So feel free to correct me: But Ana on her own can't actually contribute as much as other healers like Mercy and Lucio right?[/QUOTE] Ana is so good at healing once you get good with her there is no reason to ever go back to Mercy. Ana has 75 hps with the abiliity to double it Mercy only has 60 hps

Solo Healing ~Explanation~ Mercy: - She heals decently fast which would make her a good solohealer if it wasn't for the fact that... - She has no survivability whatsoever - Lack of survivability forces her to play passive once she gets ult (and partially when she's building ult). Since "playing passive" when you only have 1 healer means "Nobody gets heals ever" you can imagine how well that goes. Zenyatta: - He can heal flankers effectively but he lacks the HPS to sustain tanks - Has marginally little more survivability than Mercy and he can output some damage\debuff, but still pretty trash at solohealing Lucio: - Can heal squishies decently, has trouble healing tanks (even worse than Zenny) - Has a lot of survivability though Ana: - Can heal squishies and tanks alike with great efficiency - If things get rough she can use her Grenade for 100 AOE healing and to speed up her biotic rifle healing as well - Thanks to her Sleep Dart and Biotic grenade, she's extremely survivable relative to other healers - Her ult charges mad crazy when she soloheals Symmetra: - What the fuck - What are you doing - Please man don't do this to us

why even put symmetra in that list dumbass, you gotta put the best AoE healer in that list Soldier 76 [editline]5th November 2016[/editline] or the true best solohealer, roadhog

genjis the best healer

[QUOTE=Dazzgrace;51315017]genjis the best healer[/QUOTE] Genji has the potential to be one of the best healers, technically. It just takes an enemy team of 6 Soldier 76s dropping their Biotic Fields ontop of Genji as he reflects them. Should be a solid 240 hps. It can only be outdone by a Nanoboosted Damage Boosted Ana shooting at a target with the Heal Grenade buff on it, or a Transendence.

[vid]https://f.lewd.se/a5VHZ3_ReaperVictorysmol.mp4[/vid] First match using Reaper, and I managed to win with my ult :v:

[QUOTE=Dazzgrace;51315017]genjis the best healer[/QUOTE] You know, that makes me wonder. If a Genji reflects an Ana shot and aims it at a team mate, does it damage them or heal them?

[QUOTE=villa;51315089]You know, that makes me wonder. If a Genji reflects an Ana shot and aims it at a team mate, does it damage them or heal them?[/QUOTE] dont keep me up at night like this

[QUOTE=villa;51315089]You know, that makes me wonder. If a Genji reflects an Ana shot and aims it at a team mate, does it damage them or heal them?[/QUOTE] A reflected Ana shot will heal teammates and hurt enemies.

reinhardts gameplay matches his personality and i love it when games do that

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