ArcheAge - A Sandbox MMO with Realistic Queue Action - Games

What do you guys have to say about what this person said about the game? [quote]Just for the people to be aware before buying - this game has massive issues with latency. And I am not talking about server issues, but game design. By design, you have no ability que, and no lag compensation whatsoever. As far as latency is concerned, it is as demanding as a shooter, if not more. In PVP, anyone with lower ping than you, will own you, given similar levels of gear and skill. Between 2 players with the same gear and build, the one with lower latency will have higher dps. Period. Also, this is not just issue for all the 200+ms latency folks from Oceania and Middle East. Even people from United States that have latency above 50-60 are at a huge disadvantage. The game was designed for Korean market, small land mass coupled with high performance fiber optics. Not designed to be played at anything above 20ms. Here are some measurements and video, courtesy of Rexxar [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7cCHy7ShGI[/url] 10 ms : 6 skills in 7,2 seconds 50 ms : 6 skills in 7,7 seconds ( 7% slower) 100 ms : 6 skills in 8,2 seconds (14% slower) 250 ms : 6 skills in 9,8 seconds (36% slower) Effectively, at 100-ish latency, which is considered good enough and playable in any recent MMO, including Trion's own Rift(which features great lag compensation and ability queing system), in ArcheAge you will be taking 10% effective reduction in cast time, and hence a very substantial DPS loss. This, for an MMO released in 2014 for geographically large western market, is unaceptable, borderline game breaking. Thoose who happen to have latency higher than 100ms can forget at being viable in anything but zerg-fest PVP, which in a PVP focused game is pure bullshit. No competitive PVP possible in this scenario. As far as implementing the issue, Trion gave barely any respones, they tried to sidestep the issue by rebalancing some of the more latency dependant skills, failed miserably. They didn't get straight answer as to when the ability que will be implemented. Their response is "We told XL, we have nothing else to say, no ETA, its complicated issue, might be adressed in future patches". Pure bullshit too, NA/EU is at 1.2. Korea is at 1.7, no ability que, not even mention about lag compensation in any roadmaps by XL games. Given the fact that this must be implemented server side, and Korean version doesn't need it at all, little to no hope for implementing it, and Trion obviously not gonna pressure XL Games. So much for Trion's cheap marketing talk of "We are capable of implementing unique westernisation features in ArcheAge". EDIT: For the sake of TL;DR, and for thoose who don't understand, lack of server-side skill que in a game with GCD mechanic in essense means that your latency is added to GCD. Basically, if you have 100ms latency, your effective GCD is 1.1 seconds, 200ms makes GCD 1.2 etc. Every other lag issue is manageable, you can learn the fights, learn aoe patterns, even try to predict the enemy's actions and movements in PVP based on his class/build and your experience. But you will still be forced into a situation where you are fighting someone who can fire off his rotation faster than you. Nothing you can do about that.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Killdozer;45745882]How the hell did you find a spot to put thousands of trees without having tons of people show up to chop it all down the second they mature?[/QUOTE] A lot of big open spots around the zones. This was part of it [thumb]http://i.imgur.com/lViAQqm.jpg[/thumb] It went up along the hill infront as well. [QUOTE=TrannyAlert;45745708]Can you explain more about this? Since it sounds pretty interesting Why were you planting trees Why didn't you want people to know Why'd they want to kill you anyway[/QUOTE] Yes it is to try and get thunderstruck so they didnt try and get thunderstruck because they wanted trees, and half the trees rolled over into a pvp zone.

[QUOTE=seano12;45747419]What do you guys have to say about what this person said about the game?[/QUOTE] It is an interesting thing to say and could very well be cause for concern but right now in PVP it seems to matter little as the winner is currently often the person who starts launching their stuns first. If you have 4-7 stuns and you land the first one you will generally win unless the other persons gear is top tier.

[QUOTE=Ricenchicken;45747601]A lot of big open spots around the zones. This was part of it [thumb]http://i.imgur.com/lViAQqm.jpg[/thumb] It went up along the hill infront as well. Yes it is to try and get thunderstruck so they didnt try and get thunderstruck because they wanted trees, and half the trees rolled over into a pvp zone.[/QUOTE] wtf is thunderstuck

[QUOTE=TrannyAlert;45748019]wtf is thunderstuck[/QUOTE] Mistranslation of "Lightning Struck Tree". Thunderstruck logs are very rare and very valuable (800+ gold per log)

Oh nice. So you can sell off the normal wood but if you get a random event of having a tree struck, then you hit the big bucks $$ sounds cool

It's quite cool until you realize that those logs are actually a crafting material you can only get from a random event.

[QUOTE=alexojm;45747856]It is an interesting thing to say and could very well be cause for concern but right now in PVP it seems to matter little as the winner is currently often the person who starts launching their stuns first. If you have 4-7 stuns and you land the first one you will generally win unless the other persons gear is top tier.[/QUOTE] One of the reasons I still like WoW's pvp is because you can still win even if you're outstunned. But I like the abilities this game has.

So weren't the keygiveaways meant to start today? Checked all the partnersides, but they don't seem to have a giveaway running.

[QUOTE=Camper99;45749993]So weren't the keygiveaways meant to start today? Checked all the partnersides, but they don't seem to have a giveaway running.[/QUOTE] I got mine from mmorpg.com, but I've seen nothing yet.

Heh, I just got a password reset email from the second support request I sent Trion two weeks ago now. Took it long enough. But its a meaningless point because I already got it resolved over a week ago. The support staff at Trion is swift.

wowe trion finally stopped spamming me with "pls buy our founder's packs" emails and instead gave me this one for a change! [t]http://i.imgur.com/t4NtY2a.png[/t] 16th times the charm

I mentioned a few times, that my acc got hacked around the 6th of August. I finally decided to contact live support, I mentioned I lost a few gold etc, nothing much. Mainly I was wondering if I could get my store credits back. They were really helpful, and in about a day everything was back in order, I got like 2g per level so I had like 200g. More than I had when I was hacked etc. But then... I log on, I find that I have 200 more gold. on top of that, about 500 unread messages. Each message containing a recovered item, they sent me a copy of every single piece of item I ever had. The main highlights for this is: 6k Grapes, 4k Medicinal Powder, 20k Iron Ingots, refunded my gilda stars, gave me farm wagon design and harpoon clipper design, as well as 60 Charcoal Stabilizers. I'm now at about 800 gold, not counting what I've siphoned into Alchemy, which is at 11k proficiency.

Sounds like it's time for a thousand trade runs.

I really liked what I played back in CBT3 and was wondering what the best deal was in terms of founder's packs. I'm pretty much skipping the $50 one because I want the glass glider, so that leaves the $100 and $150 packs.

[QUOTE=Fish_poke;45754159]I really liked what I played back in CBT3 and was wondering what the best deal was in terms of founder's packs. I'm pretty much skipping the $50 one because I want the glass glider, so that leaves the $100 and $150 packs.[/QUOTE]If you do TF2 Crate keys with people, you can get the $150 one for $100 or slightly less.

I'm getting close to 50 gilda stars again, should I buy a design and sell it for gold? [editline]21st August 2014[/editline] I could use the extra capital to try and get into the real estate market :eng101:

Got in to Beta 4 as well, neat. This should help me decide whether getting the Archeum Pack is worth it.

[QUOTE=Killdozer;45755712]I'm getting close to 50 gilda stars again, should I buy a design and sell it for gold? [editline]21st August 2014[/editline] I could use the extra capital to try and get into the real estate market :eng101:[/QUOTE]No, the 50 star designs aren't worth anything really.

[QUOTE=Xavith;45753980]I mentioned a few times, that my acc got hacked around the 6th of August. I finally decided to contact live support, I mentioned I lost a few gold etc, nothing much. Mainly I was wondering if I could get my store credits back. They were really helpful, and in about a day everything was back in order, I got like 2g per level so I had like 200g. More than I had when I was hacked etc. But then... I log on, I find that I have 200 more gold. on top of that, about 500 unread messages. Each message containing a recovered item, they sent me a copy of every single piece of item I ever had. The main highlights for this is: 6k Grapes, 4k Medicinal Powder, 20k Iron Ingots, refunded my gilda stars, gave me farm wagon design and harpoon clipper design, as well as 60 Charcoal Stabilizers. I'm now at about 800 gold, not counting what I've siphoned into Alchemy, which is at 11k proficiency.[/QUOTE] I imagine they're being really lenient about this sort of stuff since it's only the beta and all this is going to be hard reset anyway Also no invite for CBE4 for me even though I was in 3, guess I'll just have to wait until the open beta

[QUOTE=TrafficMan;45757046]I imagine they're being really lenient about this sort of stuff since it's only the beta and all this is going to be hard reset anyway Also no invite for CBE4 for me even though I was in 3, guess I'll just have to wait until the open beta[/QUOTE] That is on the alpha servers so come release when the alpha servers become the test servers if he truly wanted to just keep playing on the server he is on he could keep the stuff forever.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;45754367]If you do TF2 Crate keys with people, you can get the $150 one for $100 or slightly less.[/QUOTE] I'll look into it. I won't spend a dime on keys until I can find a person to trade with.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;45754367]If you do TF2 Crate keys with people, you can get the $150 one for $100 or slightly less.[/QUOTE] Kinguin's selling it fore 80.63€ now. Much better deal

Quickly guys, Alienware is pumping out dem beta keys right now! ~8000 left [url]http://eu.alienwarearena.com/giveaways/archeage-closed-beta-event-4-conflict-conquest[/url]

am i super lucky or something [img]http://puu.sh/b24fh.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Fish_poke;45754159]I really liked what I played back in CBT3 and was wondering what the best deal was in terms of founder's packs. I'm pretty much skipping the $50 one because I want the glass glider, so that leaves the $100 and $150 packs.[/QUOTE] 150$ pack for 100$, 80€ if you're from Cooleuorpe [URL]http://www.kinguin.us/category/8543/archeage-archeum-founders-pack-steam-gift/?___store=kinguin_us_english&___from_store=english[/URL]

Grabbed a key, this looks interesting, but I've no idea what the hell the game is about.

[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;45760162]Grabbed a key, this looks interesting, but I've no idea what the hell the game is about.[/QUOTE] You play an MMO for a while and then at endgame you steal trees and get a boat that goes on land.

[QUOTE=Chickens!;45760179]You play an MMO for a while and then you steal trees.[/QUOTE] Sounds like my kind of game! Wait...can you set forest fires? :v:

You sniped my edit so i'm not going to tell you. The forest fires will remain a mystery.