[QUOTE=Pops;42329593]oh thank god, everyone on /v/ kept saying all the devs were either dead or in jail, i started to get worried that this would never come through
praise the sun![/QUOTE]
They're turkish, so possibly both.
I'm joking, but it's a reality in that country right now.
Looks awesome. Solid graphic work and looks like it will make a good modding platform
[t]http://www2.taleworlds.com/Images/Gallery/Bannerlord_09.jpg[/t]
One thing though. Why do they never rig their mail/cloth coifs and hoods. For god's sake, it looks sooo much better when they actually have rigging and move around with your shoulders
[editline]28th September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;42328007]
I hope they keep the current mechanics and improve/add to them[/QUOTE]
M&B's combat mechanics would be nearly perfect if they added movement inertia so you can't do 360 running, that's M&B's biggest issue, is that you don't lose running speed when you turn with your mouse.
[QUOTE=tom1029;42327256]FINALLY SOME MOUNT AND BLADE 2 PICTURES:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/yn5YFTkh.jpg[/img]
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That pic is my favorite. I love the look of that town for some reason. It reminds me of Morrowind.
It's probably the literal wall of fog coming towards the character and the helmet that has such high spec RGB that it looks like it's permanently baked onto the model (ala morrowind)
The other shots are awesome though
[editline]28th September 2013[/editline]
Aw christ, looks like they are still using the torso/legs - shoes - gloves system as well again. Why do people always insist on doing that? it makes no sense.
Pants are not cut off at the knee and sewn onto your jacket.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/T772tgJh.jpg[/img]
God damn the Sarranids (I'm assuming they are) look badass now
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;42330883]It's probably the literal wall of fog coming towards the character and the helmet that has such high spec RGB that it looks like it's permanently baked onto the model (ala morrowind)
The other shots are awesome though
[editline]28th September 2013[/editline]
Aw christ, looks like they are still using the torso/legs - shoes - gloves system as well again. Why do people always insist on doing that? it makes no sense.
Pants are not cut off at the knee and sewn onto your jacket.[/QUOTE]
this is the best way to do clothing imo
sure, some suits and whatnot are a onesy
but most aren't.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;42330883]
Aw christ, looks like they are still using the torso/legs - shoes - gloves system as well again. Why do people always insist on doing that? it makes no sense.
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I don't understand what you mean.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;42330883]It's probably the literal wall of fog coming towards the character and the helmet that has such high spec RGB that it looks like it's permanently baked onto the model (ala morrowind)
The other shots are awesome though
[editline]28th September 2013[/editline]
Aw christ, looks like they are still using the torso/legs - shoes - gloves system as well again. Why do people always insist on doing that? it makes no sense.
Pants are not cut off at the knee and sewn onto your jacket.[/QUOTE]
You do realize that any protection armor gives you is moot if you don't wear all of it, right? You don't see people walking around in full plate armor from the waist up and shorts with moccasins.
Apparently, from the Bannerlord thread at the talesworld forums says that they're gonna be three factions fighting over an empire without an heir.
Sound familiar?
Best Warband mod anyone? I made a black man named KRAIN who fights in the desert with the Sarranid.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;42330270]Looks awesome. Solid graphic work and looks like it will make a good modding platform
[t]http://www2.taleworlds.com/Images/Gallery/Bannerlord_09.jpg[/t]
One thing though. Why do they never rig their mail/cloth coifs and hoods. For god's sake, it looks sooo much better when they actually have rigging and move around with your shoulders
[editline]28th September 2013[/editline]
M&B's combat mechanics would be nearly perfect if they added movement inertia so you can't do 360 running, that's M&B's biggest issue, is that you don't lose running speed when you turn with your mouse.[/QUOTE]
I'm digging how the towns look, I just hope that they're a little more lively and hope the villagers aren't just walking guides and information posts.
Also, is anyone playing Prophesy of Pendor? The combat is pretty fun and I love the faction and troop diversity, but I'm a bit disappointed with how small the map is.
There's a large portion of open desert and mountainous terrain in certain regions of the map, but they're all sadly unexplorable.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42331961]I don't understand what you mean.[/QUOTE]
Urgh, it's hard to explain, here's a picture.
[img]http://i.cubeupload.com/TU3S5U.gif[/img]
Left side (from 1257 ad mod): The intellegent way to do it. This makes it easier and faster to model armor and makes the armors look better
Right side: The Taleworlds/Skyrim way of doing it that wastes UV-texture space and makes the armors a big pain in the ass to model
[QUOTE=ClarkWasHere;42332063]Apparently, from the Bannerlord thread at the talesworld forums says that they're gonna be three factions fighting over an empire without an heir.
Sound familiar?[/QUOTE]
from the looks of it they're going for a pseudo roman empire collapse and the introduction into the dark ages
[QUOTE=Lijitsu;42332053]You do realize that any protection armor gives you is moot if you don't wear all of it, right? You don't see people walking around in full plate armor from the waist up and shorts with moccasins.[/QUOTE]
Actually you do, you see that all the time. Leg armor is expensive and reduces strategical mobility. You can't wade through rivers or move through forest or wetland with gambeson or plate on your legs, it'll sop up with water and weigh a bazillion pounds and the armor will be exposed to water.
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Armadura_Portuguesa.JPG[/t] [t]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2KA8Xmn-_Fk/TQJR3wFfP8I/AAAAAAAABzA/OsnWTy3RY6c/s1600/Gallowglass.png[/t] [t]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-p9Ui1pRTEi8/TcqzzmB0ehI/AAAAAAAAB8k/9nDikdoDUIE/s1600/Redshank+1577+Niamh+%C3%93+Rourke.jpg[/t] [t]http://24.media.tumblr.com/3d203fcd9d077fee27ab650cfb94baf8/tumblr_mjtueo6diF1s5mnvmo5_500.jpg[/t]
From an ergonomic standpoint it also doesn't make sense to attach the upper legs to the main armor model either. That's not how human anatomy works,[I] legs go up and under[/I] hauberks or tunics.
[img]http://www2.taleworlds.com/Images/Gallery/BannerlordArtwork_22.jpg[/img]
this picture from the concept art in particular heavily suggests a late roman period theme going on
Late roman period is best period
I am curious if they're going to have a sort of Constantinople city state going on, I'm counting on it with Turk developers. I just hope its mod friendly and has more animations so we can have good gunpowder themed mods.
looks like a mix of Frankish|late roman to me mostly. The whole three kingdoms does point at Franks a lot.
Seems to me like it'll be like the Western Roman empire and the Barbarians.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;42332165]Actually you do, you see that all the time. Leg armor is expensive and reduces strategical mobility. You can't wade through rivers or move through forest or wetland with gambeson or plate on your legs, it'll sop up with water and weigh a bazillion pounds and the armor will be exposed to water.
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Armadura_Portuguesa.JPG[/t] [t]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2KA8Xmn-_Fk/TQJR3wFfP8I/AAAAAAAABzA/OsnWTy3RY6c/s1600/Gallowglass.png[/t] [t]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-p9Ui1pRTEi8/TcqzzmB0ehI/AAAAAAAAB8k/9nDikdoDUIE/s1600/Redshank+1577+Niamh+%C3%93+Rourke.jpg[/t] [t]http://24.media.tumblr.com/3d203fcd9d077fee27ab650cfb94baf8/tumblr_mjtueo6diF1s5mnvmo5_500.jpg[/t]
From an ergonomic standpoint it also doesn't make sense to attach the upper legs to the main armor model either. That's not how human anatomy works,[I] legs go up and under[/I] hauberks or tunics.[/QUOTE]
While I wasn't aware what you meant originally, my point actually still stands. The first picture you linked is of a breastplate, [i]not[/i] full plate armor. It was lighter armor used by regulars. The second is a light infantry soldier fighting a heavy infantry soldier. The heavy infantry soldier is, in fact, wearing full plate minus the helmet - his upper thighs are covered by plate under the armored skirt. The light infantry soldier isn't even wearing any sort of plate armor. The third is another set of light equipment, likely for a skirmisher or a scout. The fourth is someone wearing what amounts to padded clothes, which is what you wear under metal armor like chain, scale and plate armors.
Heavy infantry and heavy cavalry - knights, as we think of them - were the major users of full plate armor, and they generally didn't muck through swamps in full battle gear. Aside from what you've mentioned, it would just be impractical. Swamps were generally avoided, unless there was a particularly good reason to go through one. Considering the amount of bacteria and dangerous wildlife living in a swamp, it was a gamble just trying to get through with light equipment, much less with half your gear stowed and the other doubling your weight. Smaller forests with little to no underbrush wouldn't have posed that much of a problem, aside from visibility and reduced speed, and any larger forests with thick underbrush would cause problems for [i]any[/i] soldiers moving through them, heavy armor or not.
[QUOTE=Lijitsu;42332348]While I wasn't aware what you meant originally, my point actually still stands. The first picture you linked is of a breastplate, [I]not[/I] full plate armor. It was lighter armor used by regulars. The second is a light infantry soldier fighting a heavy infantry soldier.[/QUOTE]
You play too many fantasy games. First picture is a curiassier armor (heavy cavalry) Second is a knight (not footsoldier) fighting a heavy infantry warrior. Third is another heavy infantry warrior (Redshank). Fourth is medium infantry or a man at arms.
Mail is most certainly not a lightweight armor (50+ pounds for a large hauberk) and people who wear it are most certainly not light infantry. Plate armor is [I]far[/I] lighter than chainmail. Despite being cloth, gambeson is extremely protective. A well made gambeson will easily stop arrows and crossbow bolts, and only a very talented swordsman can expect to cut through it in one strike.
[editline]28th September 2013[/editline]
People always get these silly notions of like 100% of medieval soldiers running around in chainmail.
Gambeson/aketon [I]by itself[/I] was the most common form of armor for the vast majority of any medieval or dark age army. Chanmail is a secondary and additive form of protection that's added on top of the base gambeson, it doesn't work the other way around.
I'm eager to see what mods will be made for Bannerlord.
I really... really want a good rome total war style mod. Like... right off the bat. If I wasn't tied up with my TES mod I'd probably do it, but there you have it
Would be awesome have the roman empire in it's peak or early decline on a full map of relevant roman territories, with those few outlying "barbarian" nations.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;42332582]I really... really want a good rome total war style mod. Like... right off the bat. If I wasn't tied up with my TES mod I'd probably do it, but there you have it
Would be awesome have the roman empire in it's peak or early decline on a full map of relevant roman territories, with those few outlying "barbarian" nations.[/QUOTE]
I haven't taken a look but, of all the Rome mods for Warband, have any of them done it right?
By that I mean it has a map of ancient Europe and at least some scenes that fit the setting. When I besiege Rome, I want to besiege Rome, not Sargoth.
Optional: Has Freelancer and Carthage (IIRC one or two mods take place shortly after the Punic Wars)
[QUOTE=Hidole555;42332563]I'm eager to see what mods will be made for Bannerlord.[/QUOTE]I hope the dev team for L'Aigle considers porting the mod over to Bannerlord when it's released.
[quote]Mail is most certainly not a lightweight armor (50+ pounds for a large hauberk)[/quote]
Sorry but this particular point is just fucking bullshit. a full length hauberk, including full length sleeves would weigh around 24-30lbs at most, and yes, while it is heavy, if you wear it right (aka wear a belt so the weight is spread slightly), it's pretty comfortable, I have a bad back, yet I can wear my haubergeon (that weighs around 24lbs) all day and not be any worse off than if i hadn't worn it. Plate armor is usually around the same weight as chainmail armor, it just wears a lot better and feels lighter because of the way the under rigging attaches everything together and spreads the load around your body much more efficiently than chainmail does.
I used to fucking love this game, and I was pretty good at it. I played M&B Napoleonic Wars, and was in the 8th Kings Regiment of Foot. I was pretty damn good at chambering everything. Funnest thing is that if you are good, you can fight with fists vs someone with a bayonet, and you can win.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;42332445]You play too many fantasy games. First picture is a curiassier armor (heavy cavalry) Second is a knight (not footsoldier) fighting a heavy infantry warrior. Third is another heavy infantry warrior (Redshank). Fourth is medium infantry or a man at arms.
Mail is most certainly not a lightweight armor (50+ pounds for a large hauberk) and people who wear it are most certainly not light infantry. Plate armor is [I]far[/I] lighter than chainmail. Despite being cloth, gambeson is extremely protective. A well made gambeson will easily stop arrows and crossbow bolts, and only a very talented swordsman can expect to cut through it in one strike.
[editline]28th September 2013[/editline]
People always get these silly notions of like 100% of medieval soldiers running around in chainmail.
Gambeson/aketon [I]by itself[/I] was the most common form of armor for the vast majority of any medieval or dark age army. Chanmail is a secondary and additive form of protection that's added on top of the base gambeson, it doesn't work the other way around.[/QUOTE]
it p. much boils down to the peasants had no armor and the nobles had the best armor available.
You also had to buy your own equipment in those periods due to no real standing armies and uniforms existing.
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