Mount and Blade Series V2: Chamber n' Sidestep - Games

[QUOTE=BananaFoam;42359225]Chain and cloth is even [I]uglier[/I] in my opinion. It doesn't really inspire fear or awe like a full suit of beautiful, shiny, embroidered plate armor.[/QUOTE] [img_thumb]http://www.art-girona.com/410-thickbox_default/knight-hospitaller-xiii-century.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://thunderclam.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/ironclad-movie-james-purefoy-4.jpg[/img_thumb] [img]http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/5709/teutonicordercharge1va.jpg[/img] Surely you didn't mean that..

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;42363871]It's ridiculous to say that there were no archers and no crossbowmen in the thirty years war when there are [I]pictorial depictions[/I] of them drawn at the time. I dunno, I guess they were just sort of standing around doing nothing during battles.[/QUOTE] [quote]Bows and crossbows had fallen almost entirely out of use by the 17th century, except in a very few and marginal cases. There weren't really even any people left who knew how to use professional longbows anyways.[/quote] Matchlocks and pikes were the most common armaments, both of them being cheap, easy to mass produce, easy to use, and easy to maintain.

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;42363871]Tell you what, why don't you go dig up the body of Gustavus Adolphus and smack his corpse around a little bit for hiring so many Scottish archers. Evidently it was an awful idea considering Sweden beat everybody, the man clearly had no idea what he was doing.[/QUOTE] Didn't new armor in the 16th century basically make bows useless? I guess a handful of professional archers would be helpful but those weren't exactly in huge supply. I always look at that period as a transitional phase.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42364005]Matchlocks and pikes were the most common armaments, both of them being cheap, easy to mass produce, easy to use, and easy to maintain.[/QUOTE] [url]https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/composition-division[/url]

[QUOTE=BananaFoam;42359225]Chain and cloth is even [I]uglier[/I] in my opinion. It doesn't really inspire fear or awe like a full suit of beautiful, shiny, embroidered plate armor.[/QUOTE] Well personally, the chain and cloth look has the gritty down-to-earth look down. Pair it up with a good looking Great Helm and you'd have the perfect medieval badass. The reason why I prefer the shiny/blackened, highly decorative 16th century armour is that it's beautiful to look at. Such great workmanship and artistry and it's the classic 'knight in armour' look, especially with a plume and a close helm. So IMO badass look: chain and cloth, beauty: shiny fancy armour. [QUOTE=Rangergxi;42364056]Didn't new armor in the 16th century basically make bows useless? I guess a handful of professional archers would be helpful but those weren't exactly in huge supply. I always look at that period as a transitional phase.[/QUOTE] I'd say proper 'arrow proof' suits of armour were around during the 15th century as well, with the Milanese and Gothic styles of plate. However as hypno-toad explained, not everyone could afford to wear full suits of armour and in many scenarios, a full suit would be impractical for infantry based soldiers. Wearing half (maybe less) and sometimes, three quarters of a full suit were usually worn by most armoured soldiers. Gambesons/arming doublets were also extremely popular by soldiers who couldn't afford plate. So arrows and bolts still would have been useful.

Any help on how to start my own kingdom? I literally forgot everything about this game

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;42364057][url]https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/composition-division[/url][/QUOTE] I never said that they weren't used, just that they were used rarely. Plus you said matchlocks were expensive, this is actually the opposite of the truth. Other ranged mediums weren't required as such because guns already did the job. The only reasons they really hired those longbows or crossbows is because they were mercenaries willing to fight. State armies never had crossbows or that shit as part of their standardized weaponry at the time.

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;42364172]Any help on how to start my own kingdom? I literally forgot everything about this game[/QUOTE] Swear fealty to a king, stock up a couple of castles and a city and than rebel when he says that he won't let you keep something you've conquered.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42364056]Didn't new armor in the 16th century basically make bows useless? I guess a handful of professional archers would be helpful but those weren't exactly in huge supply. I always look at that period as a transitional phase.[/QUOTE] Ironically because muskets became the biggest threat, chainmail, gambeson and shields were rendered useless against musket balls and mostly phased out in western europe, so people stopped wearing/equipping them. However chainmail, gambeson and shields previously were primarily used to stop arrows and crossbow bolts :v: If you're in a set of half armor, have no shield, your face is exposed, your entire back is exposed, your legs are exposed, and your armpits are exposed and a small unit of skirmishers start shooting arrows at you, you're pretty much fucked. IIRC the Polish, Cossacks, Tartars and Muskovites still wore padded armors and chainmail though, probably because they also had archers to contend with whereas western Europe mostly fielded muskets, pikes and cannon.

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[QUOTE=Gwoodman;42364172]Any help on how to start my own kingdom? I literally forgot everything about this game[/QUOTE] You're in luck. Over a year ago I posted a little guide on how to do this. I present to you: Hidole555's Guide to Become a King, Second Edition. ________________________________________________________ A lot of people are going about becoming a King or even a Lord all wrong. They rush into it way too fast. There are five things you should address before you even think about becoming a Lord. Troops Money Right to Rule Companions Honor [B]Troops: Part 1[/B] At the beginning of the game, do quests and kill bandits until you are able to field an army of about 30-50 troops. This should be enough to scare away most bandits and defeat the ones that do attack you. [B]Money[/B] Updates have made this part of the guide outdated, but you're going to want to trade around until you find a nice trade route. Preferably one where you profit back and forth between two towns. So for example where you profit by buying a good from Sargoth and selling it at Suno and then profit again by buying a different good from Suno and selling it at Sargoth. Once you find a trade route like that, just go back and forth for easy money. Your grand goal is to buy the most profitable business possible in every city. [B]Right to Rule[/B] Recruit and use every companion in the game, listed in the picture below, to spread the word of what an awesome King you will be. You will notice some companions will get angry of what you send them off to do. This doesn't matter. In a few days they will have calmed down and you can then send them off to spread the word. By doing this you gain 48 free Right to Rule, which makes being a King much easier as other Kings will be more likely to negotiate. [B]Companions[/B] So which one of these companions do you actually keep? All of them. Let me explain. First, take a good look at this picture here. [IMG]http://cdn.wikimg.net/strategywiki/images/7/7e/M%26B_Nobles.gif[/IMG] There are essentially two sets of companion groups. Nobles and riff-raff. The first group you should stick with and keep by you are the Nobles, circled in Red + Artimenner and Borcha. A companion being Noble means you can turn them into a Lord without pissing off other Lords in the realm, which essentially means free vassals for you when you become King. Once you have become King and have finished making all the ones circled in red Lords, dismiss Artimenner and Borcha (or make one of them your royal minister if you don't want your wife to have the job) and recruit the other set of Companions. [B]Honor[/B] There are a few simple rules you should always abide NEVER take gifts from villages. This nets you honor, its usefulness is explained below. ALWAYS release Lords when you defeat them. This also nets you honor. The aim of the game is to maximize honor. With high honor you automatically get good relations with other "good" Lords. What this means is that eventually you will have 50+ relations with Lords you've never even met, which makes it much easier to recruit Lords when you become King AND it makes the relation penalty matter less when you assign fiefs. [B]Troops: Part 2[/B] Once you have businesses in every city buy the best equipment possible for each companion and yourself. Now just keep fighting tournaments, doing quests and building up your relationship with villages until you can field an army of at least 100. [B]Relationship with villages is very important[/B] as high relationship allows you to recruit larger numbers of troops from villages, allowing you to build up your army much more quickly. Also with higher relationship, the troops you recruit from villages could also already be promoted. With a high enough relationship with a village, it's possible (though extremely rare) to get 30 Swadian Men-at-Arms at once. Now you can become a Lord and try to become King. Don't forget to marry the son/daughter of whichever Lord owns a city in the faction you choose to initially join up with.

So what, in another year maybe we will see some M&B 2 gameplay? Then the year after that it might release. TALEWORLDS PLEASE SHOW US STUFF.

I think the reveal was realy shitty. A dark screen, text, picture of armoured warrior fades in. Kinda looks like one of those free shitty browser multiplayer games that are advertised on flash game sites. I mostly want to see just a fuckton more content and a few massive changes/additions to things. But when i went over to the tailworld forum everyone is requesting shit like "i want legendary weapons such as excalibur" and "i want to marry characters and have kids" and other shit like that. Request something that'd actualy improve the game like different faction sizes, More options for mounts, Battles with more than two sides, better command options and so on and you'l have some cunt say something like[I] "this is all realy hard to code. Non coders wouldn't understand" [/I] Fuck off will ya? They're getting paid and it's a small price to pay for such a feature.

[QUOTE=The Jack;42383774]I think the reveal was realy shitty. A dark screen, text, picture of armoured warrior fades in. Kinda looks like one of those free shitty browser multiplayer games that are advertised on flash game sites. [/QUOTE] Apparently the reason why it was so shitty was because War of The Roses was coming out and was published by the same publisher, so it was smarter to tease it then to make sure people acknowledged the difference between the games. And yeah, the community over there kinda stinks. They aren't awful, but they aren't good either

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42362318]I assumed they had fallen out of use by that stage. Firearms gave the best bang for their buck then. Of course, I am already more or less correct, since the usage of crossbows and bows themselves was marginal and not mentioned pretty much at all after the 16th century.[/QUOTE] Really depends on firearm, too, laddy. Royalists primarily made use of old-model matchlocks, only using flintlocks when guiding munitions wagons and guarding powder stores, which led to major losses when fighting in the marshes of Ireland. Parliament made more use of new-model and flintlock, which was, of course, more effective. Highlanders, especially younger clansmen, made usage of bows and crossbows, as firearms where more expensive and thus mostly only used by older, more experienced clansmen.

[QUOTE=Bird;42380516]I still have the original guide saved, the bit about the companions helped me a bunch and I didn't even know you could start your own business until I read your guide. If I recall everything right you wrote the you should buy a dyeworks in every city except Jelkala. I've always wondered what the reason for that was.[/QUOTE] It's because in Jelkala the materials a dyeworks would buy to make dye was almost always more expensive than the dye that was produced, meaning that instead of raking in 500+ denars you'd be losing 30-100, making the massive investment to make the dyeworks completely wasted. This only happened to Jelkala though, so dyeworks was the best option in every other city. Since then, however, several patches were released by TaleWorlds which balanced out trade and the economy in general. Making the Sargoth-Ahmerrad trade route I identified and the instructions on where to place what businesses outdated. What I would do now is get either myself or a party member to have high trade and listen for deals at the marketplace and trade around until I find a nice pattern to trade around. Then I'd repeat the pattern for easy money. For building businesses I'd go with whatever the guild master says is the most profitable. (So pretty much exactly what I said in the revamped guide above) [editline]3rd October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=The Jack;42383774]I think the reveal was realy shitty. A dark screen, text, picture of armoured warrior fades in. Kinda looks like one of those free shitty browser multiplayer games that are advertised on flash game sites. I mostly want to see just a fuckton more content and a few massive changes/additions to things. But when i went over to the tailworld forum everyone is requesting shit like "i want legendary weapons such as excalibur" and "i want to marry characters and have kids" and other shit like that. Request something that'd actualy improve the game like different faction sizes, More options for mounts, Battles with more than two sides, better command options and so on and you'l have some cunt say something like[I] "this is all realy hard to code. Non coders wouldn't understand" [/I] Fuck off will ya? They're getting paid and it's a small price to pay for such a feature.[/QUOTE] One of the Mount&Blade Classic mods, The Eagle and Radiant Cross I believe, actually had custom battles where you could have up to 6 different sides fighting each other. It was amazingly fun.

[QUOTE=The Jack;42383774]I think the reveal was realy shitty. A dark screen, text, picture of armoured warrior fades in. Kinda looks like one of those free shitty browser multiplayer games that are advertised on flash game sites. I mostly want to see just a fuckton more content and a few massive changes/additions to things. But when i went over to the tailworld forum everyone is requesting shit like "i want legendary weapons such as excalibur" and "i want to marry characters and have kids" and other shit like that. Request something that'd actualy improve the game like different faction sizes, More options for mounts, Battles with more than two sides, better command options and so on and you'l have some cunt say something like[I] "this is all realy hard to code. Non coders wouldn't understand" [/I] Fuck off will ya? They're getting paid and it's a small price to pay for such a feature.[/QUOTE] this is not how it is really.

The king gave me a burnt down, looted village. What am I supposed to do with it?

Turn it into fort kickass No seriously though, just defend it against attack so it produces revenue. Do jobs for the town mayor/chieftain or whatever they are called. If you raise your reputation with the town, people will willingly volunteer to join your army and they'll often provide their own equipment. When I got a villages reputation to 100 and recruited soldiers, 40 swadian militia volunteered. If you have a couple of villages that love you you can basically recruit entire armies from them.

My conquest is over. The entirety of Caldradia is united under my kingdom. THERE WILL BE NO MORE WAR. And only like 200,000 people died along the way. Guess I will try a big overhaul mod. Floris is good right?

If you unite Caldradia can people rebel/try to usurp your throne?

Wow almost every single Napoleonic server I have been on threatened me with a ban or was banned because of my name. How is 420th_LT_GAY_WEED_DAD_69 offensive?

[QUOTE=$$JOSE$$;42434740]Wow every almost every single Napoleonic server I have been threatened with a ban or was banned because of my name. How is 420th_LT_GAY_WEED_DAD_69 offensive?[/QUOTE] that's not even the worst i was in a napoleonic server the other day with adolf hitler and anne frank they were lovers

I still have the best name [t]http://i.cubeupload.com/b8tSnN.jpg[/t]

The best feeling in the game: [img]http://www.ultraimg.com/images/1IvGV.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=Amsay;42437472]The best feeling in the game: [img]http://dumpt.com/img/files/pkuwlbbullzam8j16hhn.gif[/img][/QUOTE] Looks like the gif is broken, or it just doesn't want to load for me. [editline]6th October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=hypno-toad;42437468]I still have the best name [t]http://i.cubeupload.com/b8tSnN.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Hey, I've seen you on a couple of servers.

[QUOTE=ClarkWasHere;42437594]Looks like the gif is broken, or it just doesn't want to load for me.[/QUOTE] Does it work now? I might as well post something else too: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amZxmLd_ors[/media]

[QUOTE=Pops;42435028]that's not even the worst i was in a napoleonic server the other day with adolf hitler and anne frank they were lovers[/QUOTE] I was on RGL Custom TDM today and there was someone named nigger. Admins didn't do a thing. :D

[QUOTE=Amsay;42437472]The best feeling in the game: [img]http://www.ultraimg.com/images/1IvGV.gif[/img][/QUOTE] Sigh, I wish I still had the footage, but I managed to hit the horse in the head with the throwing axe, then take the rider down in with my sword. Was the greatest feeling.