[QUOTE=Qaus;47987903]
yo-kai watch: isn't this the game that was apparently the first to marginally compete with pokemon in japan? japan absolutely LOVES pokemon but here in the west it's not as insanely huge. sure pokemon is still hella popular here, but i don't see a pokemon competitor being at all successful here. confusing decision to localize it.[/QUOTE]
It might be a little surprising to hear since this is the first time most of the west is really hearing about it, but Yo-Kai Watch in Japan isn't a Pokemon imitator, it's seizing Pokemon's dominance in the market for this sort of game. Well, that's a bit dramatic but in Japan it's outselling Pokemon. The series and anime tie-in are absolutely insanely popular, and Youkai Watch 2 sold more than five million copies in Japan across its various editions according a mid-December article from last year, and that's just the second game. It's selling better than Pokemon, even.
[quote=http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2015-01-09-yokai-watch-2-reigns-supreme-in-japan]
Article from January 9, 2015
The software top ten is below, with lifetime sales in parentheses:
1.[3DS] Yokai Watch 2: Shin Uchi (Level-5, 12/14/14) - 207,932 (2,247,129)
2.[3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire (Pokemon, 11/21/14) - 110,895 (2,394,239)
3.[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS (Nintendo, 09/13/14) - 70,913 (2,072,848)
4.[Wii U] Super Smash Bros. for Wii U (Nintendo, 12/06/14) - 58,008 (529,244)
5.[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate (Capcom, 10/11/14) - 45,754 (2,391,014)
6.[Wii U] Mario Kart 8 (Nintendo, 05/29/14) - 28,403 (880,180)
7.[3DS] Yokai Watch 2: Ganso / Honke (Level-5, 07/10/14) - 24,121 (3,064,221)
8.[3DS] Final Fantasy Explorers (Square Enix, 12/18/14) - 22,928 (233,796)
9.[PSV] Gundam Breaker 2 (Bandai Namco, 12/18/14) - 18,104 (101,768)
10.[PS4] Grand Theft Auto V (Rockstar Games, 12/11/14) - 17,451 (135,665)
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Granted the whole Japanese cultural thing gives it a disadvantage in the west, but the third game being set in America might do something about that. Even if it's a Pokemon imitator, it's an imitator that's been extremely successful so I expect a heavy push to try to gain the same success over here.
[QUOTE=Qaus;47987903] (except square enix kinda fucked that up too with inserting their own characters in it))[/QUOTE]
Fuck off that was rad as fuck
I think it'd be really cool if Nintendo released Starfox 2 on the Virtual Console.
I mean, they have literally nothing to lose by doing so, it wouldn't cost them anything.
SuperFX chip. No go.
I am thinking about buying a used Wii-U from the Swedish equivalent of craigslist. Has Nintendo put in any sort of protection for used consoles that would hinder me from using the console fully?
Also, I am getting Mario Kart and Smash Bros. Any other games you recommend?
[QUOTE=RejectedPost;47987955]I think it'd be really cool if Nintendo released Starfox 2 on the Virtual Console.
I mean, they have literally nothing to lose by doing so, it wouldn't cost them anything.[/QUOTE]
Nah, Jez San would never let that happen
I'm surprised he isn't already taking them to court for using the walkers in the new one
[QUOTE=Wormy;47988065]As long as the owner of the Wii U un-links their Nintendo Network account then there's nothing to worry about.[/QUOTE]
If they forget to unlink it, can't I just do it?
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7St53fo1Os[/media]
damn this is a pretty cool feature
It's just sad that people will end up buying Animal Crossing Party thinking it's the real deal. The Metroid spinoff gets an awful lot of hate it doesn't deserve, and I think that hate should be directed to that AC Party game because ABSOLUTELY NOBODY wanted this. This is the only part of Nintendo's E3 that I think people have the right to hate on.
I think people's hatred of what Nintendo did with Other M and now a spin off with Metroid has led to some of that anger to be spilled over. There's even a petition for it to not be released.
Yeah the hate is definitely spreading to other videos on Nintendo's Youtube channel
[editline]17th June 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=SLBros.;47988781] The Metroid spinoff gets an awful lot of hate it doesn't deserve, and I think that hate should be directed to that AC Party game because ABSOLUTELY NOBODY wanted this.[/QUOTE]
The Metroid spinoff deserves the hate just as much, you don't make a spinoff of a game that hasn't had a proper installment in years.
If they announced a new actual Metroid along with it than I think people wouldn't hate it as much, but having just a spinoff after the long wait is a bad idea.
aren't retro still working on their secret project? I can only pray its a proper metroid
Clau pretty much hit the nail on the head.
Metroid was never big in Japan, it was a primarily western series and it was even handed off to American's to kind of become their "thing" with Prime. Sakamoto pitched Other M saying that it'll draw the Japanese audience because the story he had in mind would be dramatic and anime as all hell. He then ripped the series from America and singlehandidly ruined the game beyond belief- to the point Team Ninja to this day still gets unfairly bashed even though they did the best they could. Other M then alienated the American audience because of how poorly written it was and Japan continued to not give two shits. It literally killed the franchise on both ends.
So now, 7 years later or around that we're finally getting another game but... it's using chibi's, everything looks work safe (no sharp corners don't want lil jimmy to get a paper cut in his space battle) and it's wearing the name of the series people actually loved to try and get sales. It completely deserves the hate it's getting, and much like Team Ninja- I don't blame NLG either because I bet they were handed a real shit budget for it.
For me, it just feels like Nintendo didn't want all hope to be lost on Metroid, but to make a full Metroid game would probably take quite a lot of effort along with all their other projects, so they get a (decent) 3rd party developer to make something small. Maybe they just revealed it too soon. Maybe it would have been better announced during a Winter Direct, closer to 2016.
If the game had a style similar to hunters or the federation looked ANYTHING like... well the federation, I bet it would be well received because unlike the shlock in Other M, the Prime Feds were fucking awesome and competent.
Imagine a game where you play as the federation troopers investigating a alien planet then event 0 happens and your team is wiped out by a menace and it basically turns into aliens where you're stranded on a planet waiting for backup that might not come. Things that have become staples in metroid are now horrifyinig like the metroids themselves due to you just being recon or something similar and it's more about being careful then just running and gunning. Ultimate fanservice is then hit when Samus arrives for her own reasons and the game either ends with her taking over after saving your ass or... the game swaps over to her and now you're controlling a badass who can actually handle the situation because Samus is fucking awesome.
Could be they slapped the Prime name on it so you can have the cooler Federation designs instead of the gay power rangers in OM. And they release Prime Trilogy on the eShop a while ago, so there would be people playing the series now wanting a new Prime game. I just hope it loses its frankly retarded chibi style and goes with the Hunters look.
[editline]17th June 2015[/editline]
I think we ruined eachother's merges.
We did.
oh no
Probably gonna get negative feedback for saying this, but I'm not really as upset as most seem to be about this Metroid "fiasco", I think that you guys are over-reacting to some extent.
I mean yeah i understand that its a spin-off and not a proper title, especially after the failure of Other M, but you gotta at least give it a chance. Yeah, its all chibi-like, but you haven't actually played it yet have you? Just because it has a cutesy art-style shouldn't automatically make it a shit game. I could understand maybe being mad about it if the game-play also sucked on top of it being a spin-off and chibi-styled. But you should be happy enough that at least Nintendo still actually does anything with the Metroid series, i mean the ways you guys are reacting its pretty ridiculous.
Its as if you're saying:
"As an F-zero fan that i should be completely enraged by the fact that he hasn't had a new game in forever but there was maps and a kart in Mario Kart 8."
When in reality, I'm completely fine with it by this point, and the Mario kart 8 dlc actually helped tide me over to some extent. That's how this game should be for you guys, something to tide you over until the next major Metroid game. Remember that there is that Retro game that is being worked on, and for all you know it could be the best Metroid game yet, we just don't know what it is yet.
The bad just outweighs the good for this game so far.
cant wait for F-Party
The F-Zero maps were more of a [I]nod towards[/I] than trying to pass off as something it's not.
I do think some people are overreacting though.
Speaking of long time since a proper entry in the franchise, where's my Wii U Custom Robo?
Felt like posting this comment Artsy Omni made in the comment section of that video, since we're talking about the game.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Y6odbeh.jpg[/img]
It'd be dope if they drop a huge hint behind a riddle in Federation Force about a new Metroid game similar to Prime but only a fan of the series would be able to decipher the obscure reference in it and everyone would missed it by not buying.
And they'd stay mad until Nintendo drops an actual announcement next year and then confused because of the mention of a hint.
I know they are capitalizing on the Prime name but maybe that's what they want the fans to discover. Plus, they are acknowledging Prime again so that's a good thing. It isn't "Metroid Other M: Federation Forces" so that's a relief. Maybe they learned a lot from that flop.
It's a bit like Tri Force Heroes. It's such a weird game that came out of nowhere but I feel there's more to it then just a co-op game with Zelda slapped on it. I feel that it could be a testing ground for one of many ideas they want to implement in future games, which they have enough of new ones to delay the game by a possible entire year.
Again, might be looking too hard into it but both games do seem fishy to just appear out of thin air with concepts that would seem like side-projects, with conceptual ideas, to hold off fans until the big releases of their respective franchises.
Maybe that's what they were doing in MK8 with F-Zero stuff and 200cc. Testing the waters with fans of both MK and F-Zero. Maybe 2016 will the year of the revivals of F-Zero and Metroid IPs.
Once again I agree with Omni to a extent. I just can't agree with comparing it to zelda or mario seeing as it's been 7 years coming for a new metroid game and you could probably slap pixar faces on the masks and it would fit in.
Zelda is a series that never took itself seriously- you'd turn into rabbits, bomb into moblins houses and get told "fix my door jerk" and other things, the art shift was jarring but it wasn't a complete tonal shift- and it gave Link a wide variety of expressions- things a bunch of mask wearing soldiers don't have. I'd struggle to compare it to f-zero as well as at least the last f-zero game was widely considered perfect and brutal and exactly what the fans wanted. If we're ignoring Other M as we should be, the last metroid game we got was Prime 3 which was even further back.
It's been said before but if they had shown a real metroid game with samus and announced this, it'd get laughed at still probably but it would just be a cute little companion game. As it's using the title of a deeply loved series and is "blast da baddies wif friends : )" it's fully understandable why the reaction is so overwhelmingly negative.
[editline]17th June 2015[/editline]
What's important to note, no one is saying the game is going to play like dogshit or it's bad- they're just saying that it's not metroid and not what they wanted.
[QUOTE=Sift;47988932]If the game had a style similar to hunters or the federation looked ANYTHING like... well the federation, I bet it would be well received because unlike the shlock in Other M, the Prime Feds were fucking awesome and competent.
Imagine a game where you play as the federation troopers investigating a alien planet then event 0 happens and your team is wiped out by a menace and it basically turns into aliens where you're stranded on a planet waiting for backup that might not come. Things that have become staples in metroid are now horrifyinig like the metroids themselves due to you just being recon or something similar and it's more about being careful then just running and gunning. Ultimate fanservice is then hit when Samus arrives for her own reasons and the game either ends with her taking over after saving your ass or... the game swaps over to her and now you're controlling a badass who can actually handle the situation because Samus is fucking awesome.[/QUOTE]
Like I said before, just make a squad based tactical shooter in the vein of Star Wars: Republic Commando (which itself took more than a few notes from Metroid Prime) where you play as Galactic Federation troops. I would play the hell out of that game.
The cutesy artstyle and addition of a fucking football mode makes me think the game is going to be a very repetitive, arcadey horde mode shooter - something that'd be nice as a multiplayer mode in a full Metroid game, but definitely not worth releasing as a standalone.
About those skylanders crossover things... [i]Ehhhhhhhh...[/i]
I've never much cared for those games or the accompanying figures. There's just something about them that feels... Off. Almost bootleg-ish, even before amiibo hit the scene to set a much higher bar of quality for interactive figures in general; something about the designs feels strange, even for pre-existing characters. That Bowser feels more like an attempt to clone Bowser, with Bowser's head stuck on it. It's weird and hard to explain but they just don't sit right, and they haven't since the series first launched.
Never liked the Skylanfer figures. Amiibos are alright. Disney Infinity figures are pretty good.
I think it certainly helps to produce figures of already well-known characters from companies like Disney and Nintendo, instead of inventing a group of new characters and expecting people to buy figurines of them like Skylanders.
That said, Skylanders is extremely popular, so they must be doing something right.
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