• The Wii U Megathread V2 - Nintendoomed Edition
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[QUOTE=Fangz;48124257]The fact that Nintendo's internal investigation confirmed the allegations makes me wishful that they rooted out the problem from the company. It is absolutely disgusting what Nintendo Software Technology suffered.[/QUOTE] I completely agree- Japan is still rather steeped in xenophobia and racism, and incidents like this only prove it. I do hope the problem has disappeared (in nintendo, at least), and those that left have found new jobs that they enjoy more.
[QUOTE=Magikoopa24;48124283]I completely agree- Japan is still rather steeped in xenophobia and racism, and incidents like this only prove it. I do hope the problem has disappeared (in nintendo, at least), and those that left have found new jobs that they enjoy more.[/QUOTE] Tamaki said in the video that most of them pulled out of the industry entirely in the video.
[QUOTE=Magikoopa24;48124165]People just want Nintendo either to release a top of the line console that's even better than PS4/XB1, or to drop out of consoles entirely. Anything in between is somehow strange and foreign. Speaking of Unseen64, this video on the abandoned Project H.A.M.M.E.R. is...very disturbing. [video=youtube;2lMLRIwiB_c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lMLRIwiB_c[/video][/QUOTE] Reminded me of the Sega of Japan and Sega of America rivalry in the 90's.
Nintendo's big problem with consoles also comes from the fact that they build by aesthetic as opposed to by hardware. A design is dictated and hardware is fit into it. It's problematic because they don't look to the hardware first. Both the Wii and Wii U were made first with size in mind instead of ability. With their next console, they really need to look to power and ability first. Build something really next generation, as opposed to still being the current. The Wii was barely ahead of the Xbox in terms of power, and the Wii U was barely ahead of the PS3 and 360.
I disagree. Nintendo makes their consoles with an innovative concept in mind instead of trying to give the most power to developpers, and I think this is what makes it great. It promotes innovation and unique game design, and in the end it makes Nintendo stands out from the others. Design should always comes first. I will agree that they're behind in terms of hardware, that it is a problem in some cases (Smash 3DS), and that these kind of problems should not exist in 2015, but simply pushing hardware power won't do it. Nintendo does need to step up their game for the next console, but that doesn't mean design should be left behind. (also Nintendo has an history of sucking when it comes to making hardware, the Gamecube was a mess)
Yeah, that unique game design is fine but seeing as they're so adament on using weaker hardware and unorthodox controllers, third parties ignore their consoles. To be fair though I'm not sure if third parties would give Nintendo the time of day even if they had a system that was stronger than the PS4 and had a traditional controller. They're pretty much damned either way. All I know is I just buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games. :v:
If Nintendo had started off as powerful as the PS4 plus the Gamepad it would dominate. My point is Fallout 4, GTA, Battlefront, Witcher, pretty much any game would take advantage of the gamepad that would of been awesome
It would also be much more expensive
[QUOTE=DrCactus;48127089]It would also be much more expensive[/QUOTE] But it would've seen so much more success, if it could've attracted more third-party support.
That's debatable to be honest. It would still be more expensive than a PS4 (mainly because of the gamepad), and it still would have had a name that is confusing to the general market, and not to mention the general stigma of Nintendo being "kiddy" in general. Just being more powerful wouldn't ensure the Wii U success. It would have been nice if it had some more power to it though. But I suppose I have a PC for my next gen needs anyway.
So many people dealing in absolutes. No a system's power isn't all devs care about. No it wasn't the only reason the system sold poorly. Absolutes are for physicists and mathematicians, and are appropriate nowhere else.
Nobody is saying it's the sole reason, but it is a big contributing factor. People wanted the next generation, it was a big deal back then. When the Wii U didn't match up it was forgotten by a lot of people.
I still feel that, besides the name, the two biggest makes Nintendo made with the Wii U were not including the classic controller pro as a pack-in, so that developers who did not want to utilize the tablet could be less intimidated away by it, and to go with PowerPC instead of X86/X64 like the PS4 and Xbone. Not that having almost no Nintendo games at launch nor decent amounts of advertisement helped at all.
I just wish I could turn on the console without needing to have the GamePad on at all times. It's just a waste of electricity to have that thing on when I'm playing Smash.
[QUOTE=Everything;48127228]Absolutes are for physicists and mathematicians, and are appropriate nowhere else.[/QUOTE] You just pulled an Obi-wan and spoke in an absolute yourself
That was actually the point :v:
Guys, playing Ocarina of Time got me really into the Zelda mood right now. I'd love to play Twilight Princess, too. Does it run on the Wii U? Do I need a nunchuck and a Wiimote to play it? Cause then I'd buy all the stuff I need tomorrow. Also, how's the Wind Waker HD version?
[QUOTE=Ray551;48129584]Guys, playing Ocarina of Time got me really into the Zelda mood right now. I'd love to play Twilight Princess, too. Does it run on the Wii U? Do I need a nunchuck and a Wiimote to play it? Cause then I'd buy all the stuff I need tomorrow. Also, how's the Wind Waker HD version?[/QUOTE] To play the Wii version yes you need Wiimote and numchuck. WW HD is very good and pretty. Get both
[QUOTE=mark6789;48129626]To play the Wii version yes you need Wiimote and numchuck. WW HD is very good and pretty. Get both[/QUOTE] Are there other versions that are playable on the Wii U? Sounds like a plan :v:
[QUOTE=Ray551;48129646]Are there other versions that are playable on the Wii U? Sounds like a plan :v:[/QUOTE] Not sure if German e-shop is different than US, but we have LTTP and Minnish Cap to download.
[QUOTE=Ray551;48129584]Guys, playing Ocarina of Time got me really into the Zelda mood right now. I'd love to play Twilight Princess, too. Does it run on the Wii U? Do I need a nunchuck and a Wiimote to play it? Cause then I'd buy all the stuff I need tomorrow. Also, how's the Wind Waker HD version?[/QUOTE] TP Wii needs the Nunchunk combo. Keep also in mind that it's mirrored, like Master Quest in OoT3D. If you liked OoT, TP is very similar. Has for WWHD, it's a upgrade over the GC (unless you liked the Tingle Tuner) and a definite buy for those who missed it. They sped up the sailing drastically with the Shift Sail (a lvl2 sail you can acquire from the same man but during one of his other occupation), changed a lot of stuff and eased a few mechanics and one of the most time consuming quests now requires less items to be found. Motion controls are a very nice addition but they are different from the remakes on the 3DS since you can move in first person while aiming. And the entire inventory can be shifted on the gamepad with a flick of the finger alongside a livefeed map. It's the game I decided to introduce to my friend that wanted to get into Zelda, especially since he'd love to play Zelda U once it comes out.
I'm still dissapointed Zelda U is at least 9 months away and we won't be hearing anything on it still. It was announced as delayed right after I bought my Wii U. As for remakes/HD updates. It'd be nice to get an HD release of Twilight Princess now. It's the only of the main 3d games that has yet to get an update (besides Skyward sword, but that doesn't need anything done). It's also the hardest game to get a hold of right now. A remake/HD update would give them a chance to do what they wanted to in the first place, but were limited on by the Gamecube's hardware (Such as an orchestrated soundtrack).
[QUOTE=Ray551;48129646]Are there other versions that are playable on the Wii U? Sounds like a plan :v:[/QUOTE] Unfortunately the GC version, which while at its gist the same game yet simultaneously the preferred and 'real' version for some people, obviously isn't playable because of the lack of GC backwards compatibility. There's been no other re-releases or versions since then, although i'm expecting it to be inevitable with other big Wii titles ported to the eShop so far.
[QUOTE=Ray551;48129646]Are there other versions that are playable on the Wii U? Sounds like a plan :v:[/QUOTE] You can use Nintendont with the GameCube version ISO (which I should hope you obtain legally). That requires homebrew and some not-so-simple setup, but it WILL allow you to use the classic controller, pro controller, USB 360 for PC controller, Logitech controller, or gamecube adapter to play it on Wii U. I can provide a video of it working in action if you'd like. Also WW HD is good, get that yeah.
i would really rather not any more remakes TP isn't the best looking game now, but ffs how many new Zelda titles, or new IPs like Splatoon, could we have had if they just made simple ports/digital downloads of each game for the Wii U shop? i still quietly grumble to myself in the small camp of people who believe Wind Waker HD was unnecessary
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;48129848]You can use Nintendont with the GameCube version ISO (which I should hope you obtain legally). That requires homebrew and some not-so-simple setup, but it WILL allow you to use the classic controller, pro controller, USB 360 for PC controller, Logitech controller, or gamecube adapter to play it on Wii U. I can provide a video of it working in action if you'd like. Also WW HD is good, get that yeah.[/QUOTE] Doesn't doing something like this fuck up your console? I know people who have "hacked" Xbox360s and PSPs and stuff and they can't use the online functions anymore and so on. I'd like to play Gamecube titles on the WiiU but I don't have a clue about this stuff. :v: Another Zelda-related question: What do you guys think about Skyward Sword?
[QUOTE=Ray551;48129890]Doesn't doing something like this fuck up your console? I know people who have "hacked" Xbox360s and PSPs and stuff and they can't use the online functions anymore and so on. I'd like to play Gamecube titles on the WiiU but I don't have a clue about this stuff. :v: Another Zelda-related question: What do you guys think about Skyward Sword?[/QUOTE] If you set it up right, there are no negative effects to homebrewing. Hacking isn't exactly the same; that usually involves modified hardware. Wii homebrew is purely in software. Worst case scenario if you DO fuck up, however, is you lose access to the Wii mode of your Wii U. If you don't know how to do this stuff, I wouldn't risk it unless you REALLY don't wanna play Twilight Princess with motion controls lol. It's a fairly easy process, but it has its risks. I can help you out via Steam or PM or something if you want. Otherwise, don't risk it.
Nintendo apparently doesn't care if you softmod your V-Wii either. They could easily patch it but they're allowing the hole to stay open and be plenty hackable.
Specs, exclusives, graphics, bah. I buy Nintendo systems because I know there'll always be games on Nintendo systems I wanna play. I'm the idiot who waited in line outside a Target for 4 hours just to be the first to get a WiiU, and I still haven't regretted that choice.
[QUOTE=cardfan212;48129668]Not sure if German e-shop is different than US, but we have LTTP and Minnish Cap to download.[/QUOTE] Minish Cap is really fun. I highly recommend it.
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