That is kinda the reason why I like Sonic and the Black Knight tbh. Engaging story, good and unexpected plot twist and also no 7 gems, rings or anything like that. Just good old Excalibur from the King Arthur tales.
[QUOTE=Noob4life;52703648]Chaos Emeralds need to stop being a thing.
For the people that enjoy Chaos Emeralds, why do you like them?[/QUOTE]
Because you can turn into super sonic and go faster. The Final Bosses of Sonic Adventure series were dope as hell because of super sonic.
[QUOTE=Durrsly;52703757]Seeing as Chaos Emeralds are pretty much relegated to plot device and final boss level gimmick in the mainline games I'd be fine with them being absent for a game or few[/QUOTE]
Were they even necessary in Lost World or Colours? I know you had to collect them throughout Unleashed and Generations through the temples and the challenge stages / boss fights but I seem to remember them just being side gimmicks in LW and Colours that just let you turn Super if you wanted to. They haven't been really important to the story since '06.
Speaking of Super Sonic I really wish they would do more with the concept. In most games we just speed boost into peoples faces/weakpoints and that finishes the bosses off. Stuff like Super Shadow's Chaos Spear in the final boss of Shadow the Hedgehog would be nice. Also Chaos Control.
Story-wise they're superfluous, but I can see their merit as a game mechanic to expand replay value; which is, of course, what they were always meant to do.
The thing that bugs me about the Chaos Emeralds is that there seems to be no end to the abilities they have or limits to their power. Yeah the emeralds are extremely powerful but I don't get how they can be more powerful then pretty much anything in existence in the main series. (at lest from a story perspective, gameplay wise it's obvious why.)
There was the Hyper emeralds but they were retconned (I think) because Sonic Team didn't want to have to keep one-up-ing themselves with powerful MacGuffins, there's even an unused voice line in Colors from the final boss with Eggman where he says that Wisp power is stronger than Emerald power but they cut it for the above reason.
[URL="http://store.steampowered.com/app/637100/Sonic_Forces/"]Sonic Forces on Steam[/URL]
Looks like PC port might be developed by Hardlight.
Also:
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[QUOTE=Megalan;52704385][URL="http://store.steampowered.com/app/637100/Sonic_Forces/"]Sonic Forces on Steam[/URL]
[IMG]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/167154916605820928/360472301931724807/unknown.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Looks like they didn't learn from the reaction from Sonic Mania.
Someone is definitely gonna open a petition because of that.
I don't know why people suddenly expect companies that use DRM to stop.
I don't entirely get their thought process, but it's obvious by now that negative reception because of it won't effect their decisions.
I wouldn't be surprised if they delayed Mania just to let the good, game based reviews get out the door so that the DRM review bombing would get swept under the rug.
And I also wouldn't be surprised if the exact same "bug fixing" delay happens with Forces.
Companies do what they do because they think it works and they're very stubborn in changing ways.
They may even know they don't have the best formula, but if it's keeping them afloat, they aren't going to try and take the risk of attempting to improve it but accidentally making it worse than it is.
[QUOTE=The Civ;52704482]I don't know why people suddenly expect companies that use DRM to stop.
I don't entirely get their thought process, but it's obvious by now that negative reception because of it won't effect their decisions.
I wouldn't be surprised if they delayed Mania just to let the good, game based reviews get out the door so that the DRM review bombing would get swept under the rug.
And I also wouldn't be surprised if the exact same "bug fixing" delay happens with Forces.
Companies do what they do because they think it works and they're very stubborn in changing ways.
They may even know they don't have the best formula, but if it's keeping them afloat, they aren't going to try and take the risk of attempting to improve it but accidentally making it worse than it is.[/QUOTE]
Considering it only took a week for Denuvo to get cracked on Sonic Mania, you'd think Sega would save their money and just release the damn game without it.
[QUOTE=Fangz;52704404][B]Looks like they didn't learn[/B] from the reaction from Sonic Mania.[/QUOTE]
tbh thats just sonic team in general
[QUOTE=redBadger;52704496]Considering it only took a week for Denuvo to get cracked on Sonic Mania, you'd think Sega would save their money and just release the damn game without it.[/QUOTE]
Didn't I hear that Denuvo has a money back if cracked under certain number of days?
Being able to stop pirates for a week on launch for free sounds like a pretty good deal.
ofc this isn't factoring in lost sales in protest, oh the irony
[QUOTE=Megalan;52704385][URL="http://store.steampowered.com/app/637100/Sonic_Forces/"]Sonic Forces on Steam[/URL]
Looks like PC port might be developed by Hardlight.[/QUOTE]
Hardlight? huh... odd.
At least they 'learned' to be upfront about it instead of waiting to the last minute? :v:
I just really hope it doesn't get in the way of the modding scene, since most of the fun I had in Generations was playing around with mods, such as the Classic/Modern level swaps and custom levels.
Didn't Hardlight develop most of the Sonic mobile games i.e. Sonic Jump, Sonic Dash? Do they have any experience with PC ports?
[QUOTE=Septimus01;52704051]The thing that bugs me about the Chaos Emeralds is that there seems to be no end to the abilities they have or limits to their power. Yeah the emeralds are extremely powerful but I don't get how they can be more powerful then pretty much anything in existence in the main series. (at lest from a story perspective, gameplay wise it's obvious why.)
There was the Hyper emeralds but they were retconned (I think) because Sonic Team didn't want to have to keep one-up-ing themselves with powerful MacGuffins, there's even an unused voice line in Colors from the final boss with Eggman where he says that Wisp power is stronger than Emerald power but they cut it for the above reason.[/QUOTE]
I'd rather have the chaos emeralds be general power sources/macguffins than having a zillion different insanely powerful objects every new game
Got in SA1 the other day and been playing it on my Dreamcast.
Just beat Sonic's story, and I gotta say it's not nearly as bad as I'd heard many make it out to be.
In fact I quite enjoyed a lot of it, but if I have any gripe it's about the camera.
There were so many points where that shit destroyed my flow entirely or messed up my sense of space and got me kinda lost/disoriented for no good reason.
Are there any strats to keep the camera in check with the L and R buttons or do you just gotta learn to get used to it?
That, and the occasional frame drops got a bit obnoxious.
But I'm eager to see the rest of the game.
[editline]21st September 2017[/editline]
Also, if my DC's clock battery is fucked will my Chaos just never hatch?
If so it might finally motivate me to fix that.
[QUOTE=Xubs;52705866]I figured you guys would get a kick out of this:
[media]https://youtu.be/TbpBI3WZkRU[/media]
This is the first track from NicoCW's new upcoming album Sonic Hysteria -- an album exploring the concept of Sonic remixes styled after Sonic Mania. For emphasis to the easily excitable, there is no mod or fangame attached with it, I understand if it's confusing because of the name. This is [I]just[/I] going to be an album, nothing else.
I've been following NicoCW for years, he's been doing remixes of Sonic stuff for a really long time. If there's anyone who I would pick as soon as possible to be part of a modder dream team to produce a Sonic Mania mod of high quality adding new levels, it'd be him to do the music. Easily. I'm sure a few of you know about him and would probably agree. He has the pedigree for it.[/QUOTE]
Good to know he nailed the ear-bleeding fly buzzing intro.
Sounds great besides the fact that I hate this song with a passion.
[QUOTE=redBadger;52705883]Good to know he nailed the ear-bleeding fly buzzing intro.
Sounds great besides the fact that I hate this song with a passion.[/QUOTE]
I actually fucking adore the composition of Hill Top. I just think the instrumentation does a massive disservice to the actual composition because of how ear bleeding half of the instrument samples are.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up4dXMHp4j0[/media]
I can see why it got scrapped, since it takes sorta forever, but interesting to see it restored enough to the point that it even drops the sign, just off-screen and unreachable.
[media]https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/911265857510154240[/media]
English version of the Story Trailer.
I didn't notice this before but it looks like [sp]Metal Sonic is being affected by Infinites cube thing and is physically distorted. Maybe this proves the idea that they're being controlled by Infinite which could explain why Shadow is on the opposite side.[/sp]
[QUOTE=KnightRider25;52707727]
English version of the Story Trailer.[/QUOTE]
I don't know if it's because of the voices being in english or I just didn't pay much attention to this trailer before but the english version make me feel far more excited for this game (well, atleast storywise) than japanese trailer (even with subs).
[QUOTE=redBadger;52707770]I didn't notice this before but it looks like [sp]Metal Sonic is being affected by Infinites cube thing and is physically distorted. Maybe this proves the idea that they're being controlled by Infinite which could explain why Shadow is on the opposite side.[/sp][/QUOTE]
For me the theory that [sp]they are illusions[/sp] is far more plausible after hearing Infinite's theme song.
[QUOTE=redBadger;52707770]I didn't notice this before but it looks like [sp]Metal Sonic is being affected by Infinites cube thing and is physically distorted. Maybe this proves the idea that they're being controlled by Infinite which could explain why Shadow is on the opposite side.[/sp][/QUOTE]
that would make the most sense i suppose since i guess chaos is technically a good guy now too right? the last we saw him, outside of sonic battle, was SA1's ending where he and tikal disappear right?
or am i missing a more obscure appearance somewhere else down the line?
Poor unwanted Zavok...
Wish he has more roles than just a fodder and a mawkish reminder
[QUOTE=Dr. Kyuros;52705897]
[URL="http://sp-rings.tumblr.com/post/165595917980/sp-rings-amys-trying-to-teach-blaze-how-to-bake"](x)[/URL][/QUOTE]
blaze is still my favorite ever since playing sonic rush adventure on the ds
[QUOTE=VietRooster2;52707892]blaze is still my favorite ever since playing sonic rush adventure on the ds[/QUOTE]
how the heck did they make blaze so perfect I don't get it such amazing character shouldn't even exist
And she's not in FORCES? Fine, I'LL MAKE HER. LITERALLY.
Blaze is definitely one of the few characters that I wouldn't mind being in more games. She's great in Black Knight too. I love how she has a fencing sword to go with her more cautious and elegant personality. Also the freaking theme song.
[video=youtube;gPS3id-KG8Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPS3id-KG8Y[/video]
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