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exploration is okay money as well, and with the new sleeper sites in known space, it also has somewhere to work towards for even more dosh. [editline]16th February 2015[/editline] and yeah, the blueprints from exploration can sometimes be a gold mine. Just take a good second look at any capital rig blueprints you get as for some reason, literally all the ones I found suck ass (really now, a capital sized rig for improving salvaging? ty CCP)

But yeah for now I just need to hone skills for mining and then I can easily build up from there. Refining, manufacturing will fall into place as I research into industry and maybe R&D to improve blueprints I can buy out of the market. One of my goals is to be able to run a little merchant gig by manufacturing profitable consumable commodities and hauling them into channels for a decent profit. Once I return to E-UNI I can also start going off into <0.5, 0.0 or maybe wormhole space with their help to gather more loot and treasures.

I can be of help when it comes to making $$$ of industry. Let me know if you need help.

[QUOTE=capital;47149689]Mining and PI are the quickest way to unsubscribing[/QUOTE] Mining absolutely. But PI? That really depends on the kind of a setup you have. Mine requires barely any maintenance to get cash rolling in. I make an easy 300 or so mil a month off of mine, and that's in hi-sec. All of my planets are in the same system too, so when the time comes to manage them and move resources around, it's easy.

[QUOTE=haloguy234;47151299]Mining absolutely. But PI? That really depends on the kind of a setup you have. Mine requires barely any maintenance to get cash rolling in. I make an easy 300 or so mil a month off of mine, and that's in hi-sec. All of my planets are in the same system too, so when the time comes to manage them and move resources around, it's easy.[/QUOTE] PI is great but it needs to be a passive activity, if it was an actual main focus for your char I could very easily see it driving you to an unsub. In moderation, like mining, is fine. Focusing too much on either would burn you out the quickest out of anything else you could do in EVE I would imagine.

[QUOTE=haloguy234;47151299]Mining absolutely. But PI? That really depends on the kind of a setup you have. Mine requires barely any maintenance to get cash rolling in. I make an easy 300 or so mil a month off of mine, and that's in hi-sec. All of my planets are in the same system too, so when the time comes to manage them and move resources around, it's easy.[/QUOTE] I beg to differ. I tried running PI on 6 characters doing 24 hour cycles and I had to take a week break. PI in moderation is fine, but when you have to deal with different POS towers/stations/stations on different characters, it'll burn you out very fast. PI is good if it's a small 10-20 minute side activity, not a 45 minute long activity.

Well, I'm only doing 2-day cycles for my PI which is right now making robotics and organic motor applicators. I may have to do some restructuring later on to make it more efficient, but that will be a weekly deal for me that could net me a few million if done right. I can run L4 missions with my BC from last time I was active. Using loot and investing more time into industry and resource harvesting I think I may be able to get more ISK flowing than just outright selling the loot, but by manufacturing items that are in higher demand. Once my efficiency in mining is improved, I could gather more and more resources and combine that with the occasional missioning and exploration to compliment, this could go well. [editline]16th February 2015[/editline] I just realized that venture mining in hi-sec with sub-par skills goes for about 4mil in a little under an hour. Time to go to mission-running in L3 while training up necessary skills.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;47152931]Well, I'm only doing 2-day cycles for my PI which is right now making robotics and organic motor applicators. I may have to do some restructuring later on to make it more efficient, but that will be a weekly deal for me that could net me a few million if done right. I can run L4 missions with my BC from last time I was active. Using loot and investing more time into industry and resource harvesting I think I may be able to get more ISK flowing than just outright selling the loot, but by manufacturing items that are in higher demand. Once my efficiency in mining is improved, I could gather more and more resources and combine that with the occasional missioning and exploration to compliment, this could go well. [editline]16th February 2015[/editline] I just realized that venture mining in hi-sec with sub-par skills goes for about 4mil in a little under an hour. Time to go to mission-running in L3 while training up necessary skills.[/QUOTE] If you're deadset on mining, you should ninja-gas mine in upper class wormhole space. Regular high sec ore mining is a no-win proposition due to it's ISK/hour efficiency and boredom. Honestly, I think you should sell your mission/mining boats, put 50-75% of it into the market, and train up your cloak. Then, you should fit a MWD+cloaky Heron and go into null sec/fit a cloaky Venture and go into wormhole space. You'll see much better returns, and if you lock up about half of your assets in the market, you'll see relatively passive medium-risk returns. Once you get a feel for what you like, train up to the Prospect or a racial cov ops scanner and continue down the path you started. This will make you a lot of money, and in the case of the ninja gas mining, quite a few corps would be open to recruitment assuming that's what you want and you show yourself as competent. Basically, until EVE has you fully hooked, steer clear of PI, mining, and missioning, and stick to the more thrilling professions with a relatively passive ISK making measure on the side.

[QUOTE=Capsup;47150452]I can be of help when it comes to making $$$ of industry. Let me know if you need help.[/QUOTE] I would like some guidance on this, I added you as a friend on steam. (Thor) [QUOTE=General_Lee;47153789]If you're deadset on mining, you should ninja-gas mine in upper class wormhole space. Regular high sec ore mining is a no-win proposition due to it's ISK/hour efficiency and boredom. Honestly, I think you should sell your mission/mining boats, put 50-75% of it into the market, and train up your cloak. Then, you should fit a MWD+cloaky Heron and go into null sec/fit a cloaky Venture and go into wormhole space. You'll see much better returns, and if you lock up about half of your assets in the market, you'll see relatively passive medium-risk returns. Once you get a feel for what you like, train up to the Prospect or a racial cov ops scanner and continue down the path you started. This will make you a lot of money, and in the case of the ninja gas mining, quite a few corps would be open to recruitment assuming that's what you want and you show yourself as competent. Basically, until EVE has you fully hooked, steer clear of PI, mining, and missioning, and stick to the more thrilling professions with a relatively passive ISK making measure on the side.[/QUOTE] Any tips for ninja huffing? It was one of the things I was looking into as it seemed pretty fun without super high risk.

[QUOTE=Gnomical;47153853]Any tips for ninja huffing? It was one of the things I was looking into as it seemed pretty fun without super high risk.[/QUOTE] Basically, you'll either want a cloaked Venture or Prospect (Prospect is practically built for this activity, but the Venture works fine too), and some method of scanning (bring an alt or or have a probe in the spares slot). Once your ship is ready, find a relatively empty wormhole and scan down a chain of wormholes (i.e. you find a wormhole in an empty system, you'll want to look for a deeper wormhole, and keep going until you reach a quiet C5 or C6. example chain: C2->C2->C4->C5). Once you've reached a suitable wormhole, you're going to want to scan down the gas sites and go for the most valuable sites first (vital and instrumental core). Within the sites, you have a 20 minute timer before the sleepers spawn, so go for the most valuable gas (within the two sites I listed, that would be C320 and C540). If you're alone, it'll be a bit of a challenge to have more than one cargohold of gas, so once your hold is full, you'll want to head back out the chain. If you have an alt, you could bring in an industrial and have him store it so you can spend an extended duration huffing. Some of the most important rules are set a 15 minute timer for the sleeper spawn, keep your eyes on D-scan at all time for both combat and core scan probes, and bookmark your entrances/exits. For a full hold of C320 in a Prospect, you're looking at about 140 million ISK. Basically, look for instrumental cores.

which cargo bay does gas go in the prospect? bc if you fill up the ore bay in a prospect on c540 we're talking $$$ [editline]16th February 2015[/editline] looks like gas does go to the ore bay, impressive shit

How do you guys manage your missioning loot? I hear some people mentioning just flat-out melting out items that aren't meta 3-4.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;47155532]How do you guys manage your missioning loot? I hear some people mentioning just flat-out melting out items that aren't meta 3-4.[/QUOTE] Reprocess everything that isn't faction loot/rare

[QUOTE=capital;47155649]Reprocess everything that isn't faction loot/rare[/QUOTE] Well in L3 that's pretty much all.

[QUOTE=capital;47155649]Reprocess everything that isn't faction loot/rare[/QUOTE] Some meta modules are quite expensive compared to their reprocessed value. I use EveRefinery to tell me which modules to reprocess and which ones to sell, it's a very nifty program and make it a lot easier to figure out.

it has begun [t]http://i.imgur.com/GVdS2nn.png[/t]

Since there was talk about making money here's how I started. 1. As a newbie I focused everything on mining with a Venture. Some guy donated his mining ship to me, which caused me to mine more. 2. Joined a corp and told to ditch mining. Instead I started salvaging sites after ratters had left. Eventually I got enough to buy a Vexor Navy Issue so I started ratting and salvaging at the same time. 3. Parallell with ratting I also did PI which gave me ok amount of ISK for the work you put into it. 4. I get an Ishtar and rat faster than ever. Pulling in a few hundred million a day wasn't really a problem. BUT, it got boring as shit. 5. Capsups gifts me a lot of ISK. I start trading and importing things instead. I'm not making ISK as fast as before, but it's less of a hassle.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;47155532]How do you guys manage your missioning loot? I hear some people mentioning just flat-out melting out items that aren't meta 3-4.[/QUOTE] If it isn't Meta 4 or higher, reprocess it. Once you learn the names (Arbalest, Gauss, Scout, ect) it's quick and easy

Should I be training in proper reprocessing then? I still get only 48% of any item I melt

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;47161162]Should I be training in proper reprocessing then? I still get only 48% of any item I melt[/QUOTE] You could if you really wanted to, I got Refining and Scrapmetal Processing to 4, if you wanted to do better could get Refining to 5 and train Refinery Efficiency to 4-5, but unless you plan on doing lvl 4 missions and salvaging/refining them all I wouldn't bother with the latter.

you should join a corp first of all

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;47161162]Should I be training in proper reprocessing then? I still get only 48% of any item I melt[/QUOTE] 48% is fine reprocessing got changed up a while ago, you used to have a base of something around 80% and be able to boost it to silly levels like 110%, but now I think the max is 90%, so you're not losing as much as you think you are. also yes, join a (good) corp asap. if you want to keep running level 4 missions for money, look for a corp based in npc nullsec, if you want to mine/rat then look at a sov null corp. if you look into joining a nullsec corp, make sure to ask if they're a renter corp, dont join these.

[img_thumb]http://puu.sh/g69or/ab98bc1147.jpg[/img_thumb] Accidental cyno during a super photo op, everyone was drunk but me =/

for anyone who has been interested in EVE, the free trial time period has increased from 14 days to [B]30[/B] [URL]http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/30-day-trials-now-available/[/URL] the buddy program offers a month too now instead of 21 days, with the PLEX benefit unchanged.

CCP, hurry the fuck up and get the hamsters rolling already! Getting withdrawal symptoms already!

Hey fuckboys, dont forget to log in and get your limited edition ex-concord shuttles!

[QUOTE=Tmaxx;47215128]Hey fuckboys, dont forget to log in and get your limited edition ex-concord shuttles![/QUOTE] Shit expires on the 25th of June, so we got a bit of time. :p

I just noticed something pretty sad in this graph (PvP damage per class, battleships and CB's are marked because they were discussed in the article this was in) [IMG]http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66946/1/STEVE_7.png[/IMG] take a look at what titans do :suicide:

[QUOTE=scratch (nl);47236291]I just noticed something pretty sad in this graph (PvP damage per class, battleships and CB's are marked because they were discussed in the article this was in) [IMG]http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66946/1/STEVE_7.png[/IMG] take a look at what titans do :suicide:[/QUOTE] Titans are, and have only ever been giant space "LOOK HOW MUCH MONEY I HAVE" dicks.

they could remove titans from the game and i wouldnt give two shits