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[QUOTE=archangel125;49958117]The Stinger's their equivalent of the F8 Lightning, I think. But in my opinion they fucked up the design by having it look too human - the weapon optics on the nose look just like those on the Apache, as does the chin gun.[/QUOTE] you know what would be cool vanduul captured human colonies/manufacturing sectors being forced to develop hybrid tech Basically MISC's warmongering twin

Oh great, a ship that's probably 300+ dollary doos. I'm guessing you won't be able to buy an upgrade token for it huh?

[QUOTE=dai;49958376]you know what would be cool vanduul captured human colonies/manufacturing sectors being forced to develop hybrid tech Basically MISC's warmongering twin[/QUOTE] That would be cool, but I don't think the Vanduul are quite so advanced societally.

[QUOTE=dai;49958376]you know what would be cool vanduul captured human colonies/manufacturing sectors being forced to develop hybrid tech Basically MISC's warmongering twin[/QUOTE] I'd expect that more out of the Tevarin resistance ([URL="https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13626-Letter-From-The-Chairman-40-Million"]they're out there somewhere[/URL] :xfiles:) than the Vanduul, tbh; the Vanduul don't seem interested in capturing human slaves or colonies, but instead sacking them for their resources (like the Vandals with Rome). I get the feeling that the Vanduul don't take prisoners; they certainly don't allow themselves to be captured -- the original Scythe sale was justified in lore by the discovery of an intact Vanduul carrier drifting like a derelict ghost ship with all aboard dead from some mysterious cause; prior to that no Scythe or any other Vanduul ship had been captured intact because they self-destruct rather than be taken by humans.

[QUOTE=dai;49955052] also for those interested, the Vanduul ship from the sneak peek for tomorrow's sale appears to be the Blade (medium fighter). Cockpit is identical but I'm wondering what's up with the winglets we're seeing, might be more technical work on the rest of the body now. The model from teller's video is 10 months old already so I wouldn't really call this a CONCEPT sale so much as a "hey we're throwing the blade into the game soon so here you go nerds" [t]https://i.imgur.com/RCOcUL8.png[/t] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VUYc3kzsLE[/media] [/QUOTE] its been revealed, the vanduul are actually romulans [t]http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/sto.gamepedia.com/6/61/Rom_Ship_Dhael.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;49958495]the Vanduul don't seem interested in capturing human slaves or colonies, but instead sacking them for their resources (like the Vandals with Rome).[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=ntzu;49958497]its been revealed, the vanduul are actually romulans[/QUOTE] Vandals are Romans confirmed

[url]https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15248-Important-Announcement-From-Esperia-Inc[/url] [t]https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/b8mrgjw6j813nr/banner/Light_Fighter_Blade_Materials_01.jpg[/t] [t]https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/atzrprp1mdj9cr/source/BLADE_001.png[/t] [t]https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/9ymf3v9r16sksr/slideshow_wide/Blueprint.jpg[/t] [t]https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/cisr4uxvkjl7hr/source/Warning2.jpg[/t] [t]https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/74us5lke2csy3r/source/BLAGE_002.png[/t] [t]https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/f82qwpplirqj9r/source/Blade2.jpg[/t] [t]https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/vhngwk5fqugl4r/source/Blade3.jpg[/t] [QUOTE=desire to know more intensifies]Ship Details The Esperia Blade is a Vanduul design produced by Esperia for military use. The Blade will be available as a concept sale from March 18, 2016 to March 21, 2016. Originally designed as an aggressor for Squadron 42, this Blade sale will allow it to be adapted for human flight in Star Citizen! The Blade is the Vanduul armada’s lightest fighter, focusing on maneuverability over shields and weapons. The Blade is the first concept ship of 2016 and the only additional Vanduul ship currently being adapted for human flight. Watch for more concept ships from familiar manufacturers starting next month! About the Blade With over a quarter-millennia of recorded encounters, the Vanduul Blade is both one of the first of the species’ spacecraft encountered by the United Empire of Earth and one of the most common. A dedicated light fighter and skirmisher, earlier models of the Blade took part in the first raids on Human colonies in Orion. Although aspects of the design have been upgraded over the decades (and like all Vanduul ships, vary slightly from clan to clan) the modern variant has retained an extremely similar silhouette with improved control surfaces and more modern weapons attachment points. Tens of thousands of individual Blades have been destroyed over more than two centuries, and countless others have been tracked by Naval intelligence. While the Blade’s more advanced cousins, the Scythe and its offshoots, have become iconic symbols of present-day Vanduul terror, the light fighter remains a hugely important supporting element of the Vanduul frontline fleet. The most notable feature of the Blade is its shifting wingspan, which ‘cuts’ between a streamlined travel mode and a more expansive battle mode. When in travel mode, the Blade lacks significant offensive punch but improves its direct speed and maneuverability; when in attack mode, the pilot has access to three forward-firing gun positions and a pair of missile racks. For some decades, United Empire of Earth aggressor squadrons have operated replica Blade fighters produced under exclusive contract by Esperia, Inc. These spacecraft, produced in great quantity, have been used to train generations of fighter pilots for Vanduul engagements. Today, Esperia manufactures Scythe and Glaive clones for training and testing purposes, with most former Blades having been returned to the manufacturer for storage and disassembly. The so-called “Esperia Boneyard” (location classified) contains hundreds upon hundreds of used examples in varying states of disassembly. In the wake of the recent attack on Uriel, many of the Blade trade-ins produced in the past decade are being outfitted for frontier defense use, part of an extremely controversial program aimed at better-arming those threatened by alien attack. [/QUOTE] $250 basically, the Blade repros are old aggressor spaceframes being phased out for repro Glaives/Scythes and that's why they're on the market

there's also a flyable ship sale now [url]https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15251-Flyable-Ship-Sale[/url]

Oh shit, you can get CCU's! Is the Redeemer available year round? Because if so I could reserve one with a Redeemer>Blade CCU.

yep, it's always available

So the blade is a light fighter that is considered technically inferior to the scythe or Glaive... but the concept sale price is two hundred and fifty bucks. I'll pass, thanks :V

Yeah I just noticed that. 4 size one mounts and one size 2? That seems exceedingly weak, considering the Vanduul craft mount S4's with regularity.

yeah, it's basically Gladius: ayylmao edition except priced like a multicrew [editline]18th March 2016[/editline] honestly, if the price means that only the most disposable of incomes will ever pay real money for it I'm okay with that, I don't want the spacelanes to be saturated with alien ships even before release

[QUOTE=the_killer24;49959103]yeah, it's basically Gladius: ayylmao edition except priced like a multicrew [editline]18th March 2016[/editline] honestly, if the price means that only the most disposable of incomes will ever pay real money for it I'm okay with that, I don't want the spacelanes to be saturated with alien ships even before release[/QUOTE] This has been the basic reasoning behind the prices of scythe and glaive, that they aren't dollar-for-dollar the same quality as other ships of their price, but that they should be kept rather rare

[QUOTE=dai;49959125]This has been the basic reasoning behind the prices of scythe and glaive, that they aren't dollar-for-dollar the same quality as other ships of their price, but that they should be kept rather rare[/QUOTE] Yeah but this thing is like, inferior to even the Khartu Downgraded Edition and that thing is 150. I don't get why it's not priced the same as that, if they perform similarly and they are both alien ships.

[QUOTE=Visorak06;49959163]Yeah but this thing is like, inferior to even the Khartu Downgraded Edition and that thing is 150. I don't get why it's not priced the same as that, if they perform similarly and they are both alien ships.[/QUOTE] The Xi'An aren't waging genocide against us and don't self destruct at the slightest hint they or their tech might be captured

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FanEYdkFQXA[/media] [sp]IS SNOKE A VANDUUL????????? EPISODE VIII THEORY CONFIRMED[/sp]

[QUOTE=dai;49959172]The Xi'An aren't waging genocide against us and don't self destruct at the slightest hint they or their tech might be captured[/QUOTE] I'm just saying if their argument is "It's alien tech" and "it's limited export/supply/whatever", the price points would logically be comparable between two similarly performing ships. This feels kind of retarded for them to pull imo.

Anyone notice that the Mustang Delta's page resurfaced this retarded flowchart? [IMG]https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/ltxwt1ld2lvsrr/wallpaper_thumb/Starter_ship_upgrades.png[/IMG] Reminder to Turbulent, you have X->Y CCUs now, any Aurora can instantly become a Delta right now without intermediate hops down the retarded ladder that the old CCU system required. [QUOTE=Visorak06;49959194]I'm just saying if their argument is "It's alien tech" and "it's limited export/supply/whatever", the price points would logically be comparable between two similarly performing ships. This feels kind of retarded for them to pull imo.[/QUOTE] "If their arguments are 'alien tech' and 'limited supply' then the price point should be calibrated according to performance." what Why not just say "Forget their reasoning, it should be priced according to combat power"? It takes less words and doesn't bother mentioning their reasons only to completely discard them. [URL="https://www.twitch.tv/cigcommunity/"]RtV's about to go live.[/URL]

[QUOTE=Visorak06;49959194]I'm just saying if their argument is "It's alien tech" and "it's limited export/supply/whatever", the price points would logically be comparable between two similarly performing ships. This feels kind of retarded for them to pull imo.[/QUOTE] their price points have [i]always[/i] been according to how rare they want the ship to be compared to other ships, not just alien tech in particular. Ships of higher power obviously coincide with how populous they want it to be while I'm not a fan of them dropping a random vanduul for sale again when (as someone mentioned earlier) we started out with only a handful of captured scythes, yet suddenly we've got tons of available reproduction glaives and now more reproduction ships being handed out like candy, I'm OK with its price being cranked up. It's [i]vanduul[/i] tech and ultra rare, and should be kept at a high price point to at least artificially squeeze its rarity to collecters and rich space jockeys. The Khartu Al is a reproduction as well, but it's it's also technology of an alien species that already cooperates with us via MISC, instead of (again) being a pure aggressor that reliably self destructs if defeated. It makes sense it'd be less rare, and while it has some special maneuvering capability I don't think a ship of equivalent features from a human manufacturer should cost that much, being a single seater with 2 guns and a huge front-facing profile.

KA isn't a repro, it's by the original manufacturer and factory downgraded for export

Between alien ships, Elix. If The Khartu and Blade both fit into the same role, with similar capabilities, and those two factors are the "requirements" for justifying the price point then would they not be priced similarly? I don't understand how that argument could be skewed that way when I clearly meant alien ships. And Dai, I did not realize ships were priced solely off rarity (Which I think is absurd, for the record. If ships are that "rare" they shouldn't be available until they can be earned in game the "right" way imo). It puts a sour taste in my mouth when me and my best friend both love the alien ship designs, I love Xi'An and he loves Vanduul, and then he gets arbitrarily shafted because RSI decides "nuh uh, Vanduul ships are more special than Xi'An".

i wish we didn't have to have in-verse explanations for what is a meta-funding scheme that everyone insists is just a funding scheme

At times like this, i like to turn to a certain part of the specifications. [QUOTE]Note: Ship specifications are subject to change.[/QUOTE] It'll probably be changed since alot of people are outraged about it.

[QUOTE=KennyAwsum;49959445]It'll probably be changed since alot of people are outraged about it.[/QUOTE] read up on the cutlass

[QUOTE=KennyAwsum;49959445]At times like this, i like to turn to a certain part of the specifications. It'll probably be changed since alot of people are outraged about it.[/QUOTE] Specifications will absolutely change. Role and niche as outlined in the description will not. It will still be an inferior light fighter to the Glaive and Scythe.

[QUOTE=Visorak06;49959338]and then he gets arbitrarily shafted because RSI decides "nuh uh, Vanduul ships are more special than Xi'An".[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/xMUDeJV.png[/img] they 100% tell you not to buy the ships unless you're interested in funding the game, as you'll be capable of earning them in game. Wanting it first because it's cool doesn't change that and buying them now diminishes how cool a ship is in game. If they made it sub 100 bucks like its stats would indicate the game will be flooded with vanduul ships from the start because hey, they're cool alien ships instead of a gladius. Pay walls suck, but this isn't how you're supposed to earn the ship and it's the only way to artificially limit general ship populations among the masses during the game's launch

Oh hey, they are showing the starfarer on RTV right now [editline]18th March 2016[/editline] Hangar ready soon-ish

[img]http://i.imgur.com/cTzb1fC.jpg[/img] IT'S HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!! (MAYBE) (HOPEFULLY) (POSSIBLY) [editline]18th March 2016[/editline] OMG THE CARGO RAMP HAS POPOUT RAILINGS THIS IS SUCH AN INCONSEQUENTIAL FEATURE BUT I LOVE IT ANYWAY [editline]18th March 2016[/editline] I DON'T REGRET SPENDING $240 ON THIS AT ALL BETTER THAN A BLADE AT LEAST :^) [editline]18th March 2016[/editline] OMG A CENTRAL CAPTAIN'S CHAIR (that isn't there because there are no cockpit chairs in the current build) [editline]18th March 2016[/editline] CRAWLSPACES!!!!

Oh god, the hard rubber floor material in the hallways has the MISC logo integrated into the design as a repeating motif. I saw this as Lando fell through the floor and hovered back up with his chin clipping through the floor. The detail is amazing. I need to resist moving this from my "in the PU" list to "you crazy bastard stop spending money on ships" list.