Star Citizen Megathread - Star Marine isn't doomed after all! - Games

[QUOTE=Sgt. Khorn;50143651]You're digging up dirt on a man who works on a game you dislike. That isn't productive discussion and has nothing to do with Star Citizen.[/QUOTE] I don't dislike the game. I want it to succeed as much as anybody in this thread. It's not digging up dirt to post something that is being widely published on the internet. If I were a manager in a company and I found out that one of my employees had been posting offensive material and [b]still had it up for display[/b] I would be pretty annoyed. Especially if it is an employee that is supposed to be the face of my company. It has everything to do with Star Citizen, it's something that affects the front facing end of the company. I don't understand why you think a scandal surrounding a prominent member of the development team has "nothing to do with Star Citizen". [QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;50143665]Someone looses their job since shitty jokes? Wow, damn. You anti-Star Citizen guys are fucking evil.[/QUOTE] They're not shitty jokes. There is plenty of racist, sexist and downright wrong material displayed on his personal website. I'm not a "anti-star citizen guy", please don't make sweeping statements and tar people with a brush. [QUOTE=dai;50143674]Third "but this is a discussion forum", why does it sound like "you wouldn't hit a kit with glasses!" The Ben shit is sad, but decade+ old celebrity fawning and shitty kid on the Internet passive racism isn't exactly illegal, nor does it have anything to do with the game. In the very least people don't have to just attack his neckbearded good looks when they don't know what else to complain about[/QUOTE] Are you saying that we shouldn't tolerate discussion on this website? Yes it is sad. However as a former backer and potential future backer, it negatively impinges on the reputation of the developer of the game and in my opinion is a cause for concern. It certainly won't help if the media grasp onto this, given the earlier accusations of racism against Sandi.

[QUOTE=LordCrypto;50143805]hey hezzy you were at camp fp with drugs as a cop why didn't you resign then?????????? [editline]16th April 2016[/editline] the point is is that digging shit up from so long ago is kinda pointless :)))[/QUOTE] I really dont know whats worse, Bens disgusting behavior or you people dwfending such behavior. Firstly, I encourage any of you to enter a workplace and quote any of Bens appalling and unprofessional comments and see if you keep your job. If by some miracle you do I hope you like HR meetings and anti-bigotry counciling. Secondly, Lesnick is the community manager. He is their PR officer. As public relations your job is to look good and make the company look good. No company wants bad PR. This is bad PR coming from tlCIGs public face. Any company worth its salt would have him resign or fire him to distance themselves from his behavior. And frankly his behavior is unnacceptable. Comments from 10 years ago is one thing but publicly advertising a library of 20,000 creepy, homophobic, sexust, racist comments is on a whole nother level. Also you all disrespecting Hezzy is also strange. Whats worse? Condemning despicable behavior or the despicable vehavior itself? You all are so blinded by your following of a god damned video game that youre defending a stalker. People are disciplined and fired for less. Bens behavior is a PR nightmare and actionable by HR standards if these such standards exist at CIG. Get a life. Your priorities are all out of whack.

What's with the strange posters suddenly coming out of hibernation defending Hezzy. [editline]16th April 2016[/editline] - Jihad hasn't posted since 2014. Comes back to life for this thread - Some just registered and makes his day 1 post here.

At this point, I would not be shocked if Derek himself was here.

[QUOTE=Sgt. Khorn;50143915]At this point, I would not be shocked if Derek himself was here.[/QUOTE] Coincidentally, check who's registered an account today. And I can confirm he has seen this thread.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;50143873]What's with the strange posters suddenly coming out of hibernation defending Hezzy. [editline]16th April 2016[/editline] - Jihad hasn't posted since 2014. Comes back to life for this thread - Some just registered and makes his day 1 post here.[/QUOTE] Lets question posters to distract from the behavior of a stalker! You know youd think star citizen fans would be quick to condemn ben because this PR nightmare by the community nanager will give SC nassive bad press but no, we must choose a creepy, homophobic, racist, misogynyst as a hill to die on.

[QUOTE=Wholesome;50143861] Get a life. [/QUOTE] I do have a life. And while I live, I wait for a fun game to be made.

[QUOTE=Sgt. Khorn;50143934]I do have a life. And while I live, I wait for a fun game to be made.[/QUOTE] Maybe bad things will happen to said fun game if its community manager gives the company bad press Bad press ruins products

[QUOTE=Wholesome;50143951]Maybe bad things will happen to said fun game if its community manager gives the company bad press Bad press ruins products[/QUOTE] This is the first time any of that has been brought up. If you can find proof he's still being a creep and saying terrible things, than please post a source.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;50143873]What's with the strange posters suddenly coming out of hibernation defending Hezzy. [editline]16th April 2016[/editline] - Jihad hasn't posted since 2014. Comes back to life for this thread - Some just registered and makes his day 1 post here.[/QUOTE] The person who was banned earlier by Bendrys posted the link to this thread on SA so it may be that there be some people reading through and seeing it. It wasn't commented upon by anyone on SA at the time and is probably a couple hundred replies deep now. PersonalJihad was a regular poster in the early to mid days of Facepunch. What are you trying to imply, Starpluck? Are you trying to create drama? Nobody is defending me.

[QUOTE=Sgt. Khorn;50143957]This is the first time any of that has been brought up. If you can find proof he's still being a creep and saying terrible things, than please post a source.[/QUOTE] I think advertising this library on twitter is an endorsement of the comments. Past behavior still reflects poorly on him especially in the workplace. In any other company he would be let go for this. Lets see how CIG reacts. Plus Ben has banned women backers who were being sexually harrassed by other backers so this library explains why

[QUOTE=Hezzy;50143968]Are you trying to create drama?[/QUOTE] :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Wholesome;50143970]I think advertising this library on twitter is an endorsement of the comments. Past behavior still reflects poorly on him especially in the workplace. In any other company he would be let go for this. Lets see how CIG reacts. [B]Plus Ben has banned women backers who were being sexually harrassed by other backers so this library explains why[/B][/QUOTE] What.

[QUOTE=Wholesome;50143970]I think advertising this library on twitter is an endorsement of the comments. Past behavior still reflects poorly on him especially in the workplace. In any other company he would be let go for this. Lets see how CIG reacts. Plus Ben has banned women backers who were being sexually harrassed by other backers so this library explains why[/QUOTE] Could you post a source on that last one?

[QUOTE=Wholesome;50143970]I think advertising this library on twitter is an endorsement of the comments. Past behavior still reflects poorly on him especially in the workplace. In any other company he would be let go for this. Lets see how CIG reacts. Plus Ben has banned women backers who were being sexually harrassed by other backers so this library explains why[/QUOTE] Not going to post a source, so guessing its bullshit. I legitimately want a source to look into this Only source I found was [url]http://www.dereksmart.org/2015/11/interstellar-pirates/[/url]

[QUOTE=Sgt. Khorn;50143999]Could you post a source on that last one?[/QUOTE] Large dollar backer Wulf Knight was sending sexually explicit PMs and posts directed at a female forum user for weeks on the CIG forums. Ben did nothing and when she nade a thread about it she was banned and Ben deleted every post in the thread. Happened last year. That was probably more in defense of a huge backer rather than sexism but still inexcusable

[QUOTE=Wholesome;50144545]Large dollar backer Wulf Knight was sending sexually explicit PMs and posts directed at a female forum user for weeks on the CIG forums. Ben did nothing and when she nade a thread about it she was banned and Ben deleted every post in the thread. Happened last year. That was probably more in defense of a huge backer rather than sexism but still inexcusable[/QUOTE] Source, proof, anything? I'm not taking some one a forums word for it. Especially someone who just signed up.

Didn't know Derek Smart was here all of the sudden.

Derek Smart is the best thing about the development of Star Citizen. Every time I come back to SC to check on development I end up reading about his obsessive shenanigans regarding it instead. I find it wildly entertaining, as far as internet drama goes. [QUOTE=Hezzy;50143968]What are you trying to imply, Starpluck? Are you trying to create drama?[/QUOTE] I've just spent a good half hour reading the past week of this thread and all the wonderful drama in it. You are the number one contributor. [QUOTE=Hezzy;50143836]I'm not a "anti-star citizen guy", please don't make sweeping statements and tar people with a brush.[/QUOTE] Literally nothing you've written in this thread imply anything else than that you are. It's possible his assumption was wrong (though highly doubtful), but it was far from sweeping.

[QUOTE=Wholesome;50144545]Large dollar backer Wulf Knight was sending sexually explicit PMs and posts directed at a female forum user for weeks on the CIG forums. Ben did nothing and when she nade a thread about it she was banned and Ben deleted every post in the thread. Happened last year. That was probably more in defense of a huge backer rather than sexism but still inexcusable[/QUOTE] I'll repeat, "Could you post a source on that last one?"

[QUOTE=Sgt. Khorn;50144892]I'll repeat, "Could you post a source on that last one?"[/QUOTE] I'm thinking its Derek Smart

Nice thread title

[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;50144974]I'm thinking its Derek Smart[/QUOTE] It does not necessarily need to be Smart himself. Goons have been making it a habit to invade other forums of repute, so that they can continue the narrative that Star Citizen is 'doomed for failure'.

[QUOTE=DasFroggy;50145621]It does not necessarily need to be Smart himself. Goons have been making it a habit to invade other forums of repute, so that they can continue the narrative that Star Citizen is 'doomed for failure'.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but I think the idea of Smart him self doing it is funny.

this was pretty funny to see today though [img]http://i.imgur.com/yR0p4OL.png[/img] also pluck getting plucky

[QUOTE=dai;50145712]this was pretty funny to see today though [img]http://i.imgur.com/yR0p4OL.png[/img] also pluck was that you[/QUOTE] Someone needs to say his name three times, to complete the summoning ritual.

Derek Smart Derek Smart Derek Smart

[QUOTE=Wholesome;50143931]Lets question posters to distract from the behavior of a stalker! You know youd think star citizen fans would be quick to condemn ben because this PR nightmare by the community nanager will give SC nassive bad press but no, we must choose a creepy, homophobic, racist, misogynyst as a hill to die on.[/QUOTE] Are you aldawolf? Or does everyone who makes accusations about "creepy homophobic racist misogynistic" things repeat the "hill to die on" thing.

derek smart is only mad about SC because the bennys vending machine has no damage model

[QUOTE=Wii60;50146519]derek smart is only mad about SC because the bennys vending machine has no damage model[/QUOTE] Now I want to be able to punch it to get a stuck candy bar out.