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[QUOTE=MenteR;51887346]not really? it was proper rp. the barbarian's beard was like his token of macho. his beard disappeared, the sorcerer was like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ about it, so the barbarian raged. at first the tried to stop him non-lethally, but the barbarian rolled super well on his saving throws, so ultimately they had to put the barbarian down. sad face. it made for beautiful rp moments after, where the rogue told the druid she owed her, after the druid saved her from the brink of death. etc etc. not to mention the wizard shaving the corpse's beard off after it magically grew back, to dishonor his death, which i take as vengeful act and an interesting character development. in a meta note, the barbarian player wasn't really feeling his character and talked to me about it, so when he did it he stared at me and i nodded. while the party's character have clear character drives and motives, he was just a mindless merc. as our post-session hangout came to a consensus, if this didn't happen yesterday, it would've happened some other session, because that's just his character; a drunk brute. all in all, it was a lesson to learn for the players; they were legitimately taken by surprise. i can't wait the new character the barbarian will come up with.[/QUOTE] Seems fine with me if there's no hard feelings between anyone.

In-party fighting can be fine so long as it doesn't become in-[i]group[/i] fighting

[QUOTE=DarkMonkey;51889411]In-party fighting can be fine so long as it doesn't become in-[I]group[/I] fighting[/QUOTE] yep! we always hang out after the sessions and discuss what went down and what could've been played better and stuff. last night everyone really digged what happened. they came to realize that they should've seen the barbarian character as a risk beforehand, and they didn't. it served them as a lesson that they're still very unprepared adventurers. in fact, one of the players has talked about it to me and they will speak in-character about how they need to come up with proper strategies in case they're taken by surprise, like in last session.

one time in a Black Crusade game our Champion decided he'd had enough of being mocked and went on a berserk rampage this wouldn't have been so bad if my Apostate hadn't been trying to convince a group of hive enforcers that we were legitimate imperial agents at the same time

Fuck GameSurge. Was using it as an IRC client to run a weekly Apocalypse World game, only to find out today in the process of running a one-shot with a different friend that my channel and the account associated with it were both deleted, and without registering a channel, nobody can see anyone else's dice rolls. [editline]1st March 2017[/editline] None of this was communicated to me, by the way. I just logged on to the channel and found that my friend couldn't see my dice rolls, and when I tried logging in to the associated account and resetting the password, I was told no such account existed.

[QUOTE=Alsojames;51895606]Fuck GameSurge. Was using it as an IRC client to run a weekly Apocalypse World game, only to find out today in the process of running a one-shot with a different friend that my channel and the account associated with it were both deleted, and without registering a channel, nobody can see anyone else's dice rolls. [editline]1st March 2017[/editline] None of this was communicated to me, by the way. I just logged on to the channel and found that my friend couldn't see my dice rolls, and when I tried logging in to the associated account and resetting the password, I was told no such account existed.[/QUOTE] Just use roll20?

That's the plan. Doesn't make it less annoying though.

Against all rational decisions, I decided to start a game of PTU. Right now I'm glad I did, that was a blast to run. A two-player party with [url=http://i.imgur.com/2qsL0nN.png]a scrappy fighter[/url] and [url=http://i.imgur.com/dtCE5qS.png]a roguish ranger[/url], with a respective focus of varied and steel-type Pokemon. The fighter, Alex, has a bluejay-patterned Pidgey [url=http://i.imgur.com/Kwd6NqW.png](which I made up a sprite for)[/url] named Flappy, while the Ranger has a Piplup (which is a crossbreed with a Lucario, we plan to give moves from Lucario's set as it develops) [url=http://i.imgur.com/obn5PuG.png](and which also has its own special sprite).[/url] The Ranger, Jeanne, just moved into town a week ago, while Alex is a local of two years. We start the session with Alex wandering across a local troublemaker boy and his Rattata, and they almost come to blows before Jeanne intervenes and breaks it up. After they break up the fight, the two girls Jeanne and Alex talk and get to know each other for a time before Jeanne receives a call from her sister, an assistant at the local Pokemon lab, to come down to speak regarding an issue about the town's ecosystem. So Jeanne invites Alex along, and the two talk with the scholarly professor of the local lab, Professor Spruce. She explains about a local cave, which sports a unique blue moss that's edible by Pokemon, about which the moss is beginning to die out. So after a little more chatter and talk, with some theorizing on the causes for the dying moss, the Professor hands them each a potion and 10 pokeballs and sends them off to clear out whatever's infested the cave, which is suspected to be fire-type Pokemon moving in. The two head out to the entrance to the cave, finding it guarded by two hungry Rattata. Jeanne, having found a sunflower nearby and pulled a handful of seeds from it, makes good use of a skillful Charm roll and a lot of luck regarding the Pokemons' particular flavor preferences. After pacifying the Rattatas with the sunflower seeds and intimidating a band of Oddish who sprung up during the commotion, the three head inside the cave to begin their search. The hot and humid cave is indictive of the presence of a fire-type in its small confines, but before they can get far in their search, they're assailed by a trio of Zubats. It takes a lot of back and forth for the Zubats to finally be dispatched, but not before one managed to land a particularly nasty hit on Jeanne. In the end, two Zubats were dispatched, and Alex caught the final one. We pick up next time with more cave delving. It's just such a nice change of pace to have a game like this, and with the resources I've found and been generously given and pointed to, running it is quick and fun. Looking forwards to the next game.

What's a highly recommended online source for leveling up a 5e character? I don't have access to my DM's PHB and I don't really want to delay the next session when it starts Also supposedly if you saw a monk using a magical spinal column as nun-chucks, would you immediately think he's evil??

[QUOTE=The Decoy;51905656] Also supposedly if you saw a monk using a magical spinal column as nun-chucks, would you immediately think he's evil??[/QUOTE] up to you mang. ask the dude where did he get them from.

5e So my Idea is a LE paladin who, against his nature, crusades for good (by choosing that edgy subclass that tries to destroy evil with less regard for how that taints them, but largely he just wants to be good and hates that he enjoys doing/wants to do bad things). Maybe he was cursed or of a race that aligns with evil , but had a really good paladin upbringing to counter that. It's a flawed character that may or may not fall, depending on how insidious the GM is. Which (good) Dieties would accept such a paladin? Or do I not need to be accepted and just offer devotion?

It's 5e, so not like alignment matters so much anyway Also depends on what campaign setting and gods are even available

[QUOTE=The Jack;51905921]5e So my Idea is a LE paladin who, against his nature, crusades for good (by choosing that edgy subclass that tries to destroy evil with less regard for how that taints them, but largely he just wants to be good and hates that he enjoys doing/wants to do bad things). Maybe he was cursed or of a race that aligns with evil , but had a really good paladin upbringing to counter that. It's a flawed character that may or may not fall, depending on how insidious the GM is. Which (good) Dieties would accept such a paladin? Or do I not need to be accepted and just offer devotion?[/QUOTE] A good deity could maybe take them in if they're one of redemption, but generally a lawful evil character who acts in a lawful evil manner is unlikely to be awarded with great power by most good gods. A character who has evil thoughts but generally does good things could just be a flawed good aligned character to be honest. As for falling and oaths, in 5e the oaths have a specific code that one has to break to fall rather than straining outside of a certain alignment. That being said most of the core oaths don't cater to evil, but there's two unearthed arcana evil oaths.

[QUOTE=The Jack;51905921]5e So my Idea is a LE paladin who, against his nature, crusades for good (by choosing that edgy subclass that tries to destroy evil with less regard for how that taints them, but largely he just wants to be good and hates that he enjoys doing/wants to do bad things). Maybe he was cursed or of a race that aligns with evil , but had a really good paladin upbringing to counter that. It's a flawed character that may or may not fall, depending on how insidious the GM is. Which (good) Dieties would accept such a paladin? Or do I not need to be accepted and just offer devotion?[/QUOTE] Helm would be a good choice for a game set in FR, for a "goes-too-far" crusader vengeance paladin. Greyhawk doesn't really have a good deity for that. In a Planescape game you'd make a great Mercykiller.

[QUOTE=Glent;51908098]Helm would be a good choice for a game set in FR, for a "goes-too-far" crusader vengeance paladin. Greyhawk doesn't really have a good deity for that. In a Planescape game you'd make a great Mercykiller.[/QUOTE] St. Cuthbert, to some extent. Honestly, if you 'try to be good', you are. Evil doesn't go out of their way to be good.

Made my first dungeon for my campaign. This will serve as the starting point for my players to kick things off.

[QUOTE=Chronische;51908303]St. Cuthbert, to some extent. Honestly, if you 'try to be good', you are. Evil doesn't go out of their way to be good.[/QUOTE] I disagree. Imagine you got serial killer urges, you're really sadistic, and you hate other races. The only reason you're not a rapist is because you've got vows and a standard, not because you care about consent. You'd find evil cultists, and delight in how righteous it is to torture them, even when you've got the information you need. Maybe, on a bad day, you might be looking for an excuse to brand someone a heretic, an apostate, or a sinner. You'll squem when you find an elf who passes all scrutiny, but will condemn a half orc on account of being part orc and thus clearly a servant of Gruumsh. Anyone who criticises your methods is technically aiding evil in your worldview, and they might be next on the rack. You travel with an excellent array of torture equipment, even though you're more than suffecient with your hands. Torture is an artform. An exquisite joy. So long as you're doing it to evil (or whatever passes as such) you're good. You're a lawful zealot, and a toe out of line fills you with delight. All it takes is the right seducer, with the right methods, to tip the character over the edge. Granted, you'll probably root out many before you fall, but the fall is inevitable, and you constantly fear failing your own ideals. I think that's pretty evil, even when 90% of the time you're trying to root out evil and uphold good.

today in highly edited mass effect d6 i turn omega into a cyberpunk hellhole and it is good

[QUOTE=The Jack;51908843]I disagree. Imagine you got serial killer urges, you're really sadistic, and you hate other races. The only reason you're not a rapist is because you've got vows and a standard, not because you care about consent. You'd find evil cultists, and delight in how righteous it is to torture them, even when you've got the information you need. Maybe, on a bad day, you might be looking for an excuse to brand someone a heretic, an apostate, or a sinner. You'll squem when you find an elf who passes all scrutiny, but will condemn a half orc on account of being part orc and thus clearly a servant of Gruumsh. Anyone who criticises your methods is technically aiding evil in your worldview, and they might be next on the rack. You travel with an excellent array of torture equipment, even though you're more than suffecient with your hands. Torture is an artform. An exquisite joy. So long as you're doing it to evil (or whatever passes as such) you're good. You're a lawful zealot, and a toe out of line fills you with delight. All it takes is the right seducer, with the right methods, to tip the character over the edge. Granted, you'll probably root out many before you fall, but the fall is inevitable, and you constantly fear failing your own ideals. I think that's pretty evil, even when 90% of the time you're trying to root out evil and uphold good.[/QUOTE] That's not a LE paladin of a good deity, that's just a LE paladin period. [editline]3rd March 2017[/editline] Your definition of "evil", in this case, would be chaotic people or otherwise enemies of your god. [editline]3rd March 2017[/editline] Also, be careful not to cut yourself on all that edge. :v:

[QUOTE=The Jack;51908843]I disagree. Imagine you got serial killer urges, you're really sadistic, and you hate other races. The only reason you're not a rapist is because you've got vows and a standard, not because you care about consent. You'd find evil cultists, and delight in how righteous it is to torture them, even when you've got the information you need. Maybe, on a bad day, you might be looking for an excuse to brand someone a heretic, an apostate, or a sinner. You'll squem when you find an elf who passes all scrutiny, but will condemn a half orc on account of being part orc and thus clearly a servant of Gruumsh. Anyone who criticises your methods is technically aiding evil in your worldview, and they might be next on the rack. You travel with an excellent array of torture equipment, even though you're more than suffecient with your hands. Torture is an artform. An exquisite joy. So long as you're doing it to evil (or whatever passes as such) you're good. You're a lawful zealot, and a toe out of line fills you with delight. All it takes is the right seducer, with the right methods, to tip the character over the edge. Granted, you'll probably root out many before you fall, but the fall is inevitable, and you constantly fear failing your own ideals. I think that's pretty evil, even when 90% of the time you're trying to root out evil and uphold good.[/QUOTE] Remind me not to invite you to any of my games.

[QUOTE=The Jack;51908843]I disagree. Imagine you got serial killer urges, you're really sadistic, and you hate other races. The only reason you're not a rapist is because you've got vows and a standard, not because you care about consent. You'd find evil cultists, and delight in how righteous it is to torture them, even when you've got the information you need. Maybe, on a bad day, you might be looking for an excuse to brand someone a heretic, an apostate, or a sinner. You'll squem when you find an elf who passes all scrutiny, but will condemn a half orc on account of being part orc and thus clearly a servant of Gruumsh. Anyone who criticises your methods is technically aiding evil in your worldview, and they might be next on the rack. You travel with an excellent array of torture equipment, even though you're more than suffecient with your hands. Torture is an artform. An exquisite joy. So long as you're doing it to evil (or whatever passes as such) you're good. You're a lawful zealot, and a toe out of line fills you with delight. All it takes is the right seducer, with the right methods, to tip the character over the edge. Granted, you'll probably root out many before you fall, but the fall is inevitable, and you constantly fear failing your own ideals. I think that's pretty evil, even when 90% of the time you're trying to root out evil and uphold good.[/QUOTE] Sir Bismuth of Edgeville sounds like he'll make a great Paladin

[QUOTE=The Jack;51908843]The only reason you're not a rapist is because you've got vows and a standard, not because you care about consent. [/QUOTE] You should just give up. Right now. Your ideas aren't inherently terrible but if you rationalize them like this, 1) that's completely fucked, hideously cringy, and not even close to a respectable exploration of the subject, and 2) that's not conflicted, or 'trying to be good'. That's being a violent psychopath with delusions of righteousness. There are ways to do characters who are conflicted, whom have violent tendencies but are not evil, whom have complex relationships with their sexualities. What you describe is not even close to a decent representation of any of these things.

if there's an e in your alignment you're not a paladin

[QUOTE=The Jack;51905921]5e So my Idea is a LE paladin who, against his nature, crusades for good (by choosing that edgy subclass that tries to destroy evil with less regard for how that taints them, but largely he just wants to be good and hates that he enjoys doing/wants to do bad things). Maybe he was cursed or of a race that aligns with evil , but had a really good paladin upbringing to counter that. It's a flawed character that may or may not fall, depending on how insidious the GM is. Which (good) Dieties would accept such a paladin? Or do I not need to be accepted and just offer devotion?[/QUOTE] Does he also like extremely spicy food?

[QUOTE=The Jack;51908843]I disagree. Imagine you got serial killer urges, you're really sadistic, and you hate other races. The only reason you're not a rapist is because you've got vows and a standard, not because you care about consent. You'd find evil cultists, and delight in how righteous it is to torture them, even when you've got the information you need. Maybe, on a bad day, you might be looking for an excuse to brand someone a heretic, an apostate, or a sinner. You'll squem when you find an elf who passes all scrutiny, but will condemn a half orc on account of being part orc and thus clearly a servant of Gruumsh. Anyone who criticises your methods is technically aiding evil in your worldview, and they might be next on the rack. You travel with an excellent array of torture equipment, even though you're more than suffecient with your hands. Torture is an artform. An exquisite joy. So long as you're doing it to evil (or whatever passes as such) you're good. You're a lawful zealot, and a toe out of line fills you with delight. All it takes is the right seducer, with the right methods, to tip the character over the edge. Granted, you'll probably root out many before you fall, but the fall is inevitable, and you constantly fear failing your own ideals. I think that's pretty evil, even when 90% of the time you're trying to root out evil and uphold good.[/QUOTE] Like I told you ten pages ago. You're never going to make good characters if the first thing on your mind is what the latest gimmick will be.

[QUOTE=Aperture fan;51904890]Against all rational decisions, I decided to start a game of PTU. Right now I'm glad I did, that was a blast to run. ... We pick up next time with more cave delving. It's just such a nice change of pace to have a game like this, and with the resources I've found and been generously given and pointed to, running it is quick and fun. Looking forwards to the next game.[/QUOTE] I'm really glad you're getting good use out of everything, for all its mechanical clunkiness one thing I've universally seen happen in my experiences with PTU is that people just have so much [i]fun[/i] with the translation of pokemon to tabletop form. The last session of my own game wasn't terrifically eventful, they hiked through the woods and caught some pokemon and got even more paranoid about a certain Rattata, but on a whim [url=http://imgur.com/a/C0sTt]I decided to make little images of each of the characters with their teams[/url].

Why not just make a LE paladin that is basically a murderhobo who was resurrected by a morally-skewed good deity that lets him live so long as he hunts other evil people and not hurt good people?

[QUOTE=slayer20;51909762]Why not just make a LE paladin that is basically a murderhobo who was resurrected by a morally-skewed good deity that lets him live so long as he hunts other evil people and not hurt good people?[/QUOTE] Doesn't sound edgy enough or allow room for temptations to rape. 0/10.

[QUOTE=Vengeful Falcon;51909808]Doesn't sound edgy enough or allow room for temptations to rape. 0/10.[/QUOTE] Just rape the evil people? I mean, Succubi are evil. I'm sure nothing bad would come out of it.

12 new posts and it's just people pointing out how edgy the character'd be.