Dark Souls + Demon's Souls + Bloodborne Megathread XIII. The Ringed City
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[QUOTE=Doom14;52080557]Memories of a my heavily armored, skirting 70% with Havel's Ring and only carrying a single sword WIDEKNIGHT getting nearly stunlocked to death by a bunch of rats. Really have no idea what they were thinking in Dark Souls 3 with this weird quasi-poise hyperarmor stuff you need a PhD in theoretical game mechanics to get a full grasp on.[/QUOTE]
The pseudo-poise is gr8 if you use a huge weapon, but shit for everything else.
To whomever recommended STR builds in SoulsBorne games as a whole: thank you. The games feel as fun as the first time I played.
Great hammers are probably my favorite weapons. The Great Club is absolutely amazing in the early game and I can't wait to get my hands on Ledo's Hammer towards the end.
The Whirligig Saw in Bloodborne looks like one of the raddest weapons ever placed in a FromSoft game. It's a pity that there are few weapons like it in other titles.
[QUOTE=kyle877;52080570]The pseudo-poise is gr8 if you use a huge weapon, but shit for everything else.[/QUOTE]
I don't mind the swap, but getting stunned by something nibbling my ankles without respite just weird. Combined with enemies that sometimes suffer the same, and other times can outright ignore huge attacks while in full whirling dervish mode, makes for a kind of awkward trial-and-error experience.
I can see some angles where it's beneficial for PvP in making smaller, short-range weapons more viable - but makes me feel like PvE is better to run nearly naked and just load up on enough vitality to survive big hits if toothpicks are gonna make me fumble around the same amount as if I was a walking tank.
[QUOTE=Lyonidis;52080630]To whomever recommended STR builds in SoulsBorne games as a whole: thank you. The games feel as fun as the first time I played.
Great hammers are probably my favorite weapons. The Great Club is absolutely amazing in the early game and I can't wait to get my hands on Ledo's Hammer towards the end.
The Whirligig Saw in Bloodborne looks like one of the raddest weapons ever placed in a FromSoft game. It's a pity that there are few weapons like it in other titles.[/QUOTE]
Yeah strenght weapons are quite the fun ride.
Even simple ones like a mace are fun to use.
[QUOTE=Hammer7;52080376]DeS question. Should I finish Boletarian Palace first before heading to Stonefang Tunnel?
Decided to check out other locations after beating Phalanx but getting my ass blasted by Armored Spider.
Feels like being sl15 knight with non-upgraded great club is not a good way to do this boss.[/QUOTE]
You will be fine either way. For stonefang make sure you are using a weapon with piercing damage, it will make your life 999x easier. As for the armored spider, just dodge the webs and properly read the fire attack (it will destroy you).
Speaking of Demon's Souls, which souls game do you guys think has the best soundtrack? DeS is by far my favorite (although admittedly I haven't played BB because I have no ps4)
[video=youtube;QFjotdhdBLM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFjotdhdBLM[/video]
[video=youtube;NIAQY2xwXPc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIAQY2xwXPc[/video]
[QUOTE=Lyonidis;52080630]To whomever recommended STR builds in SoulsBorne games as a whole: thank you. The games feel as fun as the first time I played.
Great hammers are probably my favorite weapons. The Great Club is absolutely amazing in the early game and I can't wait to get my hands on Ledo's Hammer towards the end.
The Whirligig Saw in Bloodborne looks like one of the raddest weapons ever placed in a FromSoft game. It's a pity that there are few weapons like it in other titles.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, STR builds are fun as hell. I decided to run a STR build in DkS1 the other day, and I managed to three-shot the Taurus demon with a lightning-infused Zweihander. I did a plunging attack which took off half its health, then swung twice and killed it. Best way to kill a boss, and it made me lose it laughing afterwards.
[QUOTE=ClarkWasHere;52080443]I beat Dark Souls 1 yesterday, then downloaded DS2 having never played it.
Wow, I can already tell that I am not going to like DS2 as much as DS1. Something seems off about the controls, they feel less responsive.
There's a whole bunch of other issues I'm finding with DS2, but it just might be me not being used to the changes. I've already played 3 hours of it though, so I don't know if I've experienced enough to form a good opinion.[/QUOTE]
It's definitely a more floaty kind of feel I find. The dodging needs to be on-point compared to the other two up until you get your agility stat around 92 I think? It's increased by levelling Adaptability. Agility is not just for dodging I-frames too, you start using items a little faster too (And I think spellcasting as well).
Best rings to grab for a STR run in Dark Souls 3?
I just nabbed Havel's and have my sights set on Ring of Favor.
Decided to do some Spears of the Church PvP, made myself a heavy, tanky mace-wielding bastard to do it with... And discovered some pretty rad fashion souls, if I do say so myself:
[IMG]http://puu.sh/veO10/c4bb8aebb9.png[/IMG]
Vordt's Great Hammer.
Outrider Knight Helmet.
Iron Dragonslayer Armor.
Pontiff Knight Gauntlets.
Outrider Knight Leggings.
[I]66 Strength.[/I]
I charged up the strong attack and literally one-shot one of the poor bastards I was up against, hahah! Been doing pretty well with this build, honestly, might just roll with it.
[QUOTE=Lyonidis;52080908]Best rings to grab for a STR run in Dark Souls 3?
I just nabbed Havel's and have my sights set on Ring of Favor.[/QUOTE]
yeah Havels, RoF, Chloranthy, and then whatever fourth ring looks good to you (doesn't matter too much) (although depending on your build wolf ring could be a solid addition)
I did not know how bad invasions were after Pontiff.
I took 3 steps outside, [highlight]INVADER.[/highlight]
I swore I was hearing a faint dial-up tone during the fight and he almost timed out in the middle of it. Killed him. Moved towards the sleeping giants, [highlight]INVADER[/highlight] + 2 NPCs
Killed the NPCs, first invader shows up. He's trying to beat me to death with a mage's club. While dealing with that, [highlight]INVADER.[/highlight]
Final guy is spamming a fire greatsword with a reach boosted to like 3x thanks to whatever dial up he's on. I bait him into thinking I'm about to heal and spam M1 which finishes that. I think I'm gonna jump off a cliff rather than try to deal with this as I progress through the last of Boreal Valley. I'm not very good at this game, but my heart is going at about 200BPM and I threw a stupid "VERY GOOD" stone on top of all their corpses.
[QUOTE=Funion;52080790]You will be fine either way. For stonefang make sure you are using a weapon with piercing damage, it will make your life 999x easier. As for the armored spider, just dodge the webs and properly read the fire attack (it will destroy you).
Speaking of Demon's Souls, which souls game do you guys think has the best soundtrack? DeS is by far my favorite (although admittedly I haven't played BB because I have no ps4)
[video=youtube;QFjotdhdBLM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFjotdhdBLM[/video]
[video=youtube;NIAQY2xwXPc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIAQY2xwXPc[/video][/QUOTE]
Bloodborne. The music for every boss was really good and the hunter boss themes felt so uniquely personalized. Apparently someone hosted a community poll tournament style musical ranking of the Soulsborne osts and the final round was Gehrman versus Ludwig.
[Media]https://youtu.be/Ahfb7M7jYvA[/media]
[QUOTE=Mentlegen;52080965]Bloodborne. The music for every boss was really good and the hunter boss themes felt so uniquely personalized. Apparently someone hosted a community poll tournament style musical ranking of the Soulsborne osts and the final round was Gehrman versus Ludwig.
[Media]https://youtu.be/Ahfb7M7jYvA[/media][/QUOTE]
Laurence and Ludwig are my favourite
[B]Update:[/B] Two Faithfuls invaded while I was climbing the ladder out of the gator pit and I got ganked pretty hard. They spared me the deed of throwing myself off a cliff, though.
Dark Souls 3 kind of makes me wish there were friendly-invaders or more moundmaker-esq covenants for some real online insanity.
[QUOTE=Doom14;52080952]I did not know how bad invasions were after Pontiff.
I took 3 steps outside, [highlight]INVADER.[/highlight]
I swore I was hearing a faint dial-up tone during the fight and he almost timed out in the middle of it. Killed him. Moved towards the sleeping giants, [highlight]INVADER[/highlight] + 2 NPCs
Killed the NPCs, first invader shows up. He's trying to beat me to death with a mage's club. While dealing with that, [highlight]INVADER.[/highlight]
Final guy is spamming a fire greatsword with a reach boosted to like 3x thanks to whatever dial up he's on. I bait him into thinking I'm about to heal and spam M1 which finishes that. I think I'm gonna jump off a cliff rather than try to deal with this as I progress through the last of Boreal Valley. I'm not very good at this game, but my heart is going at about 200BPM and I threw a stupid "VERY GOOD" stone on top of all their corpses.[/QUOTE]
I was doing that area with Nid and beforehand he kept warning me and stressing me out about it.
And then we sprinted through it and no one showed up at all :v:
The most memorable thing from that area was Nid getting hit by one of the archers and thrown off of the roof.
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;52081063]The most memorable thing from that area was Nid [B]getting hit by one of the archers[/B] and thrown off of the roof.[/QUOTE]
You don't say?
[t]http://i.imgur.com/ZeUi1uc.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Doom14;52081075]You don't say?
[t]http://i.imgur.com/ZeUi1uc.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
[I]"Just a scratch"[/I]
I feel like I'm nearing completion of The Ringed City as I just completed Lapp's sidequest. [sp]PATCHES you motherfucker! Were you even lying about becoming a Hollow losing your memories? As soon as I got back to Firelink with "Lapp's" gear I killed him where he stood. my Grierat quest was DOA already so might as well kill the bald bastard. Not only that, not only that I wasted 400,000 souls to unhollow by the Firekeeper, the fact that I can do that via the monument and request absolution makes the quest feel like I've put in more hours than usual. Though I do love his little speech at the cutscene.[/sp]
Speaking of progress, i don't know why people were bitching about OPTIONAL BOSS [sp]Midir, the damage done to him with lighting weapons and two-handed weapons doesn't feel artificial, but the AOE of his downward flame breath is a mess. I find that summoning Shina helps as her lighting damage compensates for the double health pool, but she breaks aggression range too much due to Midir's flying.[/sp]
[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;52081189]I feel like I'm nearing completion of The Ringed City as I just completed Lapp's sidequest. [sp]PATCHES you motherfucker! Were you even lying about becoming a Hollow losing your memories? As soon as I got back to Firelink with "Lapp's" gear I killed him where he stood. my Grierat quest was DOA already so might as well kill the bald bastard. Not only that, not only that I wasted 400,000 souls to unhollow by the Firekeeper, the fact that I can do that via the monument and request absolution makes the quest feel like I've put in more hours than usual. Though I do love his little speech at the cutscene.[/sp]
Speaking of progress, i don't know why people were bitching about OPTIONAL BOSS [sp]Midir, the damage done to him with lighting weapons and two-handed weapons doesn't feel artificial, but the AOE of his downward flame breath is a mess. I find that summoning Shina helps as her lighting damage compensates for the double health pool, but she breaks aggression range too much due to Midir's flying.[/sp][/QUOTE]
But [sp]he was legitimately hollowing. It's the reason he forgot everything, even his own identity[/sp]
Been playing along Dark Souls 1 with a friend. Currently a little into Blighttown, at the first bonfire there. Waiting until tomorrow so he's back and we can continue. Using a Steam Controller.
Dang, good game so far. Tough as anything. Think I may be getting into this series.
[QUOTE=NitronikALT;52081489]But [sp]he was legitimately hollowing. It's the reason he forgot everything, even his own identity[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Was he? I'd imagine that was playing up the act the whole way. It makes more sense that Lapp and Patches shared the same VA, they're the same character. I went in an odd order; the place where patches kicked me down to had already been looted by me. Why would he go Hollow though? Is his trickery really keeping him alive? Does looting keep his sanity intact and that being a kind soul in DSIII by saving Greirat he ends up degrading fast without his fix? Does this mean that he's a long living legacy character from DS1 like Andre?[/sp]
[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;52081526][sp]Was he? I'd imagine that was playing up the act the whole way. It makes more sense that Lapp and Patches shared the same VA, they're the same character. I went in an odd order; the place where patches kicked me down to had already been looted by me. Why would he go Hollow though? Is his trickery really keeping him alive? Does looting keep his sanity intact and that being a kind soul in DSIII by saving Greirat he ends up degrading fast without his fix? Does this mean that he's a long living legacy character from DS1 like Andre?[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Andre, Patches, NK are all entities that have survived throughout the countless cycles
longer than us players, in fact[/sp]
[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;52081526][sp]Was he? I'd imagine that was playing up the act the whole way. It makes more sense that Lapp and Patches shared the same VA, they're the same character. I went in an odd order; the place where patches kicked me down to had already been looted by me. Why would he go Hollow though? Is his trickery really keeping him alive? Does looting keep his sanity intact and that being a kind soul in DSIII by saving Greirat he ends up degrading fast without his fix? Does this mean that he's a long living legacy character from DS1 like Andre?[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp] If you exhaust all his dialogue and reset twice the area where he's sitting, he will go hollow and attack you so yeah, the hollow thing was not fake (in the ringed city, where you find him near the swamp bonfire)[/sp]
[QUOTE=Sweater;52081552][sp] If you exhaust all his dialogue and reset twice the area where he's sitting, he will go hollow and attack you so yeah, the hollow thing was not fake (in the ringed city, where you find him near the swamp bonfire)[/sp][/QUOTE]
Huh. Did not know that. [sp]The one time where this might have been a hint was when he started chanting that he was unbreakable and would mummer to himself. I assumed it was an act though. Guess people like him will break one day. Makes me think if Andre never smithed since DS1 would he Hollow? The only non-ally npc in the midst of hollowing was The Nameless King who's face is like a skull and his skin a frozen corpse blue.
Does this make Patches the Soulsborne equivalent of Loki?[/sp]
I had been going through Dark Souls 3 thinking Undead Bone Shards were like the Bonfire Ascetics from DS2 for some fucking reason.
I came to the realization that the weren't [B]when I had 8 of them and looked over the description in the Consumed King's Garden.[/B] gg me
That music shift in the second phase of Oceiros's boss fight gave me shivers though. I love it when games do that.
[QUOTE=Mentlegen;52080965]Bloodborne. The music for every boss was really good and the hunter boss themes felt so uniquely personalized. Apparently someone hosted a community poll tournament style musical ranking of the Soulsborne osts and the final round was Gehrman versus Ludwig.
[Media]https://youtu.be/Ahfb7M7jYvA[/media][/QUOTE]
It's a shame not everyone gets to play Bloodborne. It's fucking incredible
[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;52081526][sp]Why would he go Hollow though? Is his trickery really keeping him alive? Does looting keep his sanity intact and that being a kind soul in DSIII by saving Greirat he ends up degrading fast without his fix?[/sp][/QUOTE]
[Sp]if I remember correctly, Patches explains that he'd been using Purging Stones for a while to keep back his hollowing, but that he'd been doing so for so long that the stones began having less and less of an effect on him. Thus why he began to seek out the monument in the ringed city, as it's basically just a gigantic purging stone.
What I want to know is whether or not Trusty Patches and Unbreakable Patches are the same person...Or better yet if ALL of the Patches are the same guy. Guess it's all up to interpretation and head Canon.[/sp]
[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;52081189]I feel like I'm nearing completion of The Ringed City as I just completed Lapp's sidequest. [sp]PATCHES you motherfucker! Were you even lying about becoming a Hollow losing your memories? As soon as I got back to Firelink with "Lapp's" gear I killed him where he stood. my Grierat quest was DOA already so might as well kill the bald bastard. Not only that, not only that I wasted 400,000 souls to unhollow by the Firekeeper, the fact that I can do that via the monument and request absolution makes the quest feel like I've put in more hours than usual. Though I do love his little speech at the cutscene.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]The place he kicks you down to will take you to the next bonfire in the area very quickly, dodging hallways full of skeletons and a red NPC invader. Afterwards, you can find Patches' white soapstone fight before an upcoming boss.
He was acting like his usual mischievous self, but he was really helping you, and you killed him for it.[/sp]
This is the only song that fills me with so much nostalgia it's unbearable.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7Xv0mJkHpw[/media]
There's something about this music that the other games can't compare too.
[QUOTE=Raxas;52082115][sp]The place he kicks you down to will take you to the next bonfire in the area very quickly, dodging hallways full of skeletons and a red NPC invader. Afterwards, you can find Patches' white soapstone fight before an upcoming boss.
He was acting like his usual mischievous self, but he was really helping you, and you killed him for it.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Siegward's story was better :p. By this point I had it up to here with Patches mucking up my path so this was the straw that broke the camel's back if you will.[/sp]
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