Dark Souls + Demon's Souls + Bloodborne Megathread XIII. The Ringed City
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[QUOTE=ClarkWasHere;52197145]Yeah, I do want to try both DS3 and Buttborne, but I think I just need some time away from the souls series.
And to probably never come back to DS2. :sick:[/QUOTE]
that boss is legitimately one of the easier ones though
if that boss is "The problem" you had ds2 I don't even know what to say, just what
[QUOTE=J!NX;52197059]the funny thing is that dark bitch is actually pretty easy compared to the boss after her[/QUOTE]
Really? I had a much more difficult time with Elan. Hell, I beat Sinh on my first try [sp]okay I did have two npcs but they died before the end so it counts[/sp]
[QUOTE=ClarkWasHere;52197054][B]Dumb rant ahead and therefore try dodging :s:[/B][/QUOTE]
You are given the option of an NPC summon for that fight, which helps take some attention off of you for the fight. I wouldn't recommend summoning more than 1 person because more people = more boss health.
Are you possibly earlier in the game for the DLC? Also, try adding the Dark Stoneplate ring for better dark defense. You already beat her once even if it was a trade.
Also yeah, there's another boss right after her and it's harder.
There's also that ring that halves the amount of health you lose from hollowing.
I also heard of a spell that gets stronger the hollower you are so she pretty much plays herself.
We are talking about the HR Giger monster right?
Since I don't have money for the dlc I've been replaying DS1 and I can't help laughing and feeling dumb finding new things after hundreds of hours. For instance, somehow across all my playthroughs I missed the Crystal Ember EVERY TIME
[QUOTE=Daemon White;52198141]You are given the option of an NPC summon for that fight, which helps take some attention off of you for the fight. I wouldn't recommend summoning more than 1 person because more people = more boss health.
Are you possibly earlier in the game for the DLC? Also, try adding the Dark Stoneplate ring for better dark defense. You already beat her once even if it was a trade.
Also yeah, there's another boss right after her and it's harder.[/QUOTE]
No, I'm not earlier in the game for the DLC unfortunately. I was soul level 169 as a strength build with greatsword and board.
And my difficulty with bosses in this game has been an anomaly on it's own. For example, I died to the Iron King seven times, yet beat Smelter without dying a single time. I've heard from my brother that smelter is hard, and that iron king should be a pushover.:glare:
[QUOTE=ClarkWasHere;52198353]No, I'm not earlier in the game for the DLC unfortunately. I was soul level 169 as a strength build with greatsword and board.
And my difficulty with bosses in this game has been an anomaly on it's own. For example, I died to the Iron King seven times, yet beat Smelter without dying a single time. I've heard from my brother that smelter is hard, and that iron king should be a pushover.:glare:[/QUOTE]
Biggest thing i've found with Elana is her pyromancies have a little more range than you'd expect so don't second guess and just stay well away and hit and run tactics are the way to to with her. Especially if you're using a Strength build, it really shouldn't be that difficult. What weapon are you using?
I personally found her infinite summons annoying, it's not really all that fun to kill one and immediately have them back again. But I cannot for the life of me remember what my build was so it was probably horrifically optimized.
[QUOTE=ClarkWasHere;52198353]iron king should be a pushover[/QUOTE]
You can literally hide behind part of the arena and avoid all of his actually dangerous attacks.
tbh the only time to play dark souls is on release day
same goes for the DLC
If you miss out on release-week you just don't get to play the game at its best
Everyone knows nothing and everyone goes through the same shit, everyone is optimistic about teaching you and everyone wants to learn. You get less douchebags, and less phantoms who have done it before 500 times and just want easy souls.
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If you play the game a month late
you simply will not get the best experience
this being said of course, offline players I feel miss out on half the fun; other people.
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;52198701]Biggest thing i've found with Elana is her pyromancies have a little more range than you'd expect so don't second guess and just stay well away and hit and run tactics are the way to to with her. Especially if you're using a Strength build, it really shouldn't be that difficult. What weapon are you using?[/QUOTE]
Mace and/Or Greatsword. Both at +10.
[QUOTE=J!NX;52198831]tbh the only time to play dark souls is on release day
same goes for the DLC
If you miss out on release-week you just don't get to play the game at its best
Everyone knows nothing and everyone goes through the same shit, everyone is optimistic about teaching you and everyone wants to learn. You get less douchebags, and less phantoms who have done it before 500 times and just want easy souls.
[editline]7th May 2017[/editline]
If you play the game a month late
you simply will not get the best experience
this being said of course, offline players I feel miss out on half the fun; other people.[/QUOTE]
Which is a big shame about DS3's release. I felt i would have not enjoyed it if i waited for the english release considering plenty of people knew stuff by then.
Had lots of fun in japanese version even if i didn't understand much. Blind experience is the best.
It's so damn hard to stream snipe without summoning since matchmaking is back to being reliant on the host being human/ embered. It's the DS1 struggle all over again.
DS2's matchmaking sucked ass, but at least you could invade people even if they were hollow.
Speaking of hollowing in DS2, you can never be hollow if you just keep repairing your Sacrifice rings. It's the only game it's possible in and I quite enjoyed it for fashion purposes.
Seems like a waste of souls since you get effigies out the wazoo.
[QUOTE=Nidhogg;52199544]It's so damn hard to stream snipe without summoning since matchmaking is back to being reliant on the host being human/ embered. It's the DS1 struggle all over again.
DS2's matchmaking sucked ass, but at least you could invade people even if they were hollow.[/QUOTE]
I honestly hated it that since it meant you were trapped into potential invasions if you ever wanted to play online just for messages and coop.
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[QUOTE=PotatoArmada;52199797]Seems like a waste of souls since you get effigies out the wazoo.[/QUOTE]
They also changed it on Scholar. There's only 1 RoLP, 1 RoSP, and they tripled the repair price.
[QUOTE=Captain;52199807]I honestly hated it that since it meant you were trapped into potential invasions if you ever wanted to play online just for messages and coop.[/QUOTE]
Oh no you're right, it was definitely a bad game design choice, and it was for the best that they changed it back to the old DS1 formula. But I'm not gonna' hide the fact that it made my invader life much easier. :v:
I hate it when you start a new game of DS1 and you manage to get both the black knight glaive and baller side sword. I'm gonna spend 20 hours just deciding which weapon to use.
Once again, my attempt to do a DEX run in DS1 ended about the same time I picked up the claymore.
I want to like the rapier type weapons but they just aren't half as satisfying or useful as even the basic longsword.
I should probably replay Dark Souls 2. I was one of those people who wasn't able to look past its flaws and wrote it off as crap after my first playthrough. Haven't touched it since then. I wonder if my opinion would change.
Man, Gehrman is an intense but pretty fun fight. I didn't really enjoy Mergo's Wet Nurse because it felt slow and methodical, Gehrman in the later stages certainly kept me on my toes.
So for some inexplicable reason, with every weapon where sharp is an efficient infusion, going from 60 dex to 70 dex gives comparable, equal, or more AR than 40 to 60, and 70 to 80 gives equal/comparable AR as 40 to 50, making 80 dex the most efficient level possible (you can easily reach 80 dex without hitting 120 before vigor and endurance by using Prisoner's Chain and the Mercenary class).
Here's a full list of weapons where base requirements and 80 dex is the strongest possible setup
[quote]Dagger, Parrying Dagger, Mail Breaker, Bandit's Knife, Rotten Ghru Dagger, Brigand Twindaggers, Harpe, Murky Hand Scythe
Shortsword, Longsword, Broadsword, Astora Straightsword, Lothric Knight Sword, Barbed Straightsword, Gotthard Memeswords
Flamberge
Astora Greatsword, Lothric Knight Greatsword
Scimitar, Falchion, Sellsword Twinblades, Warden Twinblades, Shotel, Painting Guardian Curved Sword, Carthus Curved Sword, Carthus Shotel, Rotten Ghru Sword, Follower Sabre
Murakumo, Carthus Curved Greatsword
Uchigatana, Washing Pole, Onikiri and Ubadachi, Black Blade
Dragonslayer's Axe, Winged Knight Twinaxes
Greataxe
Caestus, Claw, Manikin Claw, Crow Talons
Drang Twinspears, Spear, Winged Spear, Four-Pronged Plow, Saint Bident, Rotten Ghru Spear, Lothric Knight Longspear, Lothric War Banner
Halberd, Lucerne, Red Hilted Halberd, Crescent Axe
Great Scythe, Great Corvian Scythe
Whip, Notched Whip[/quote]
(I don't recommend actually using the Greataxe though, due to its 22 strength requirement just to 2hand which will force you to skimp heavily on vigor or endurance)
[QUOTE=Reds;52200478]Once again, my attempt to do a DEX run in DS1 ended about the same time I picked up the claymore.
I want to like the rapier type weapons but they just aren't half as satisfying or useful as even the basic longsword.[/QUOTE]
your problem is you aren't using the estoc
[QUOTE=DudeGuyKT;52200547]I should probably replay Dark Souls 2. I was one of those people who wasn't able to look past its flaws and wrote it off as crap after my first playthrough. Haven't touched it since then. I wonder if my opinion would change.[/QUOTE]
My advice: Don't approach it by comparing it to other Souls games. DS2 is a great little game in its own right, it's only "bad" when you compare it to the other Souls games because it does a lot of stuff different.
Also, roll magic. Magic makes that game so much more enjoyable. Best magic in the whole series, honestly.
[QUOTE=Ona;52200936]My advice: Don't approach it by comparing it to other Souls games. DS2 is a great little game in its own right, it's only "bad" when you compare it to the other Souls games because it does a lot of stuff different.
Also, roll magic. Magic makes that game so much more enjoyable. Best magic in the whole series, honestly.[/QUOTE]
I think that was my problem really. I compared everything to DS1. I had a friend who felt the same way as me, but when he replayed it on PC he had a much more positive opinion of it when considering it as its own thing. Hopefully I'll feel the same way, because more Souls is always welcome
I couldn't enjoy Dark Souls 2 when I kept playing it with the expectation of the other games. Once I learned to let that go I've had so much more fun with it.
It's a wonderful experience once you accept it as it's own game. It still has flaws but they're much less pronounced after you stop trying to force yourself to see it as a Souls game. You start to see a lot of the good things it brings to the table and a lot of the great changes it made to the series.
[QUOTE=salty peanut v2;52200929]your problem is you aren't using the estoc[/QUOTE]
I ditched the estoc for the claymore, actually. Why use that puny R2 when I could be smashing my foes far more efficiently?
Majula is my favourite souls hub tbh, I like the sunwashed vista
also "bear seek seek lest" an absolute classic
DS2 is a game with gamey elements for the sake of replay value and simple enjoyable gameplay. (Well, unfortunate that they had their dev time cut by half, but they decided to devote everything to the core of the game, so hats off)
Keyword game.
DS1 is more of a journey. (The journey becomes really shitty gameplay-wise after the lordvessel imo)
DS3 tries to bridge both games together but doesn't do the game aspect too well (compared to DS2) because it needlessly restricts you (limited respecs,can't respawn bosses, can't open your world for invasions, playstyles are heavily hamstrung because of the progression and placement of items). Not to say it's not great, they're all great.
I like how easy is to get to somewhere in Dark Souls because everything is connected and with the master key you have more ways to reach a place, making a new build easy to do.
Dark Souls 2 has more items to use but getting to a specific item can take time. Then again I'm not good at it to know the "quickest" way.
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