Dark Souls + Demon's Souls + Bloodborne Megathread XIII. The Ringed City - Games

The engine is From's own engine, as with cloth physics, which have been there since DS2. BB uses some DS assets because From owns the IP and can do whatever they wish with assets they developed for their own IP. [editline]10th May 2017[/editline] They probably could have gotten away with reusing some BB assets, but felt that they might as well just stay on the safe side.

[QUOTE=J!NX;52209134]How much of BB's effects were because of sony-hires? Can anyone confirm it? I'm sure Sony would have given them a little bit of assistance in that front, surely[/QUOTE] Sony only funded, marketed, and published. From designed/developed the game by themselves

Considering how many 'good' companies can be insanely scummy about IP's I'm glad they played it safe at least

I suppose I'm just going to be perpetually salty about it until I can play Bloodborne on PC. I can't afford a PS4, before anybody mentions it. Nor a PSN subscription. I'd happily buy Bloodborne at full price, but a full console/subscription service for one game? No way... And there's no other PS4 exclusives I'd want to play. The streaming service might be a saving grace, but only if they have a good host for the Oceanic folk. Anybody whose seen my PvP videos will know what my connection is like normally.

[QUOTE=Yogkog;52209160]Sony only funded, marketed, and published. From designed/developed the game by themselves[/QUOTE] Actually From got assistance on Bloodborne from Japan Studio, just as they did with Demon's Souls. It's highly likely that anything Japan Studio provided couldn't be used in another game.

Dark Souls 3's PvP would have fared off much better if they wouldn't have included the "lol I win now okay go fuck yourself"-ring. Feels like it's included just as another nod to Dark Souls 1 with little regard to balance.

[QUOTE=Ona;52209131]Well they reused plenty of stuff: The engine, for one. But also the cloth physics, some animations and bucketloads of sounds. Sony's property it might be, but the assets are still part of From Software's library. If it was a legal issue, then they could still probably either re-use core components (code for the particle physics, basic textures) or at the very least, accurately recreate them. Not to mention that Bloodborne itself uses lots of assets from the earlier Dark-Souls entries. The dip in quality is noticeable, either way.[/QUOTE] Reusing a game engine is not the same as reusing assets. A game engine is a license a studio purchases in order to build their games on. Assets are things the studio makes themselves in order to put into the game engine. [quote]Sony's property it might be, but the assets are still part of From Software's library.[/quote] Not for assets that were made specifically for the game. For example, things like simple animations (running, dodging, etc.), sound effects, and certain visual effects are property of From because they're old re-used assets from previous Souls games that From had developed and funded themselves. However, any assets that were made specifically for BB such as models, unique weapon animations, and new visuals are property of Sony and cannot be re-used because Sony funded those new assets to be made. [quote]The dip in quality is noticeable, either way.[/quote] That is the difference between a game that was funded entirely by your own money, and a game that was funded by an outside publisher.

[QUOTE=Sunday_Roast;52209579]Dark Souls 3's PvP would have fared off much better if they wouldn't have included the "lol I win now okay go fuck yourself"-ring. Feels like it's included just as another nod to Dark Souls 1 with little regard to balance.[/QUOTE] I assume you're talking about the Hornet Ring balance-wise it's broken as all fuck, but....those animations though you can't tell me it's not fun smashing people's faces with hammers and fists

I've sworn off Hornet Ring for duel but I've shamefully worn it once or twice for co-op fights since it's kinda messy in there Then again you are kind of responsible for not getting parried as well, use more non-parryable weapons and jumping attacks [editline]11th May 2017[/editline] You're pretty much asking for parries if you rely too heavily on R1 and running R1 R2 and charged R2 works wonder

[QUOTE]Ashen Ones, The patch 1.14 will be deployed on Friday, May 12th between: • JST: 17.00 to 19.00 • CEST: 10.00 to 12.00 • PDT: 01.00 to 03.00 The changes are listed below: Fixed issue where the first spell would disappear if either Seething Chaos or Crystal Hail is used twice in succession • In PvP battles, the 2nd attack of the Call to Stone (skill for Ledo's Great Hammer) attack can now be cancelled by rolling immediately after successfully delivering a different attack to the enemy • Fixed issue where 2 Spears of the Church were occasionally summoned in the Ringed City • Increased absorption and stamina recovery speed when summoned as the Spears of Church in a world with 2 or more White Spirits. • Decreased cooldown time for Ritual Spear Fragment and Divine Spear Fragment when summoned as the Spear of the Church in a world with 2 or more white spirits. • Fixed issue where following certain steps could make the Ringed City Streets bonfire inaccessible • Fixed issue where the player was unable to use the bonfire despite having defeated the Demon Prince in The Dreg Heap. • Fixed issue where further progress was disabled when interacting with the Crystal Sage Clone in a certain way. • Animation cancel now available for whips except the Rose of Ariandel. • Fixed issue where the weapon reinforcement effect of the right-hand weapon was applied to the left hand equipped with a Greatshield weapon when performing the Shield Bash skill • Reduced rotation capabilities of the Ringed Knight Paired Greatswords • Decreased stamina consumption for Ringed Knight Paired Greatswords attack and increased attack power of Ringed Knight Paired Greatswords • Fixed issue where the art for the Ringed Knight Paired Greatswords could still be performed when there was insufficient FP • Fixed issue where a combination of the Lothric War Banner's Art and the Aquamarine Dagger would result in FP continuously replenishing • Increased attack power and motion cancel speed for Call to Stone skill attached to Ledo's Great Hammer • Increased attack power for the skill attached to Quakestone Hammer • Decreased attack power and R1 projectiles of the Blade of Peril skill attached to Gael's Greatsword • Increased attack power and decreased stamina consumption for Farron Greatsword • Decreased stamina consumption when attacking with Darkdrift • Increased animation cancel speed for the Darkdrift skill attached to Darkdrift • Increased bleeding attack power for Bloodlust skill attached to Bloodlust. • Increased luck for poison, bleed, and hollow-infused and decreased stamina consumption of Astora Straight Sword. • Decreased strength and dexterity of Sunlight Straight Sword • Decreased stamina consumption for Aquamarine Dagger's Crystal Blade skill. • Increased attack for Repeating Crossbow • Fixed issue where no more stamina was required to use the Repeating Crossbow weapon art when the player did not have the minimum stats. • Fixed an issue when a female character or a male character wearing the Reversal Ring uses the Repeating Crossbow art, the character would move forward without any analog stick input. • Fixed issue where the effectiveness of the Preacher's Right Arm art did not decrease when the player did not have the required Intelligence • Fixed issue where the weapon reinforcement effect of the right-hand weapon was applied to the left hand equipped with Preacher's Right Arm when performing the Feasting Branch skill • Fixed issue where the Unfaltering Prayer effect was retained when casting certain miracles and quickly casting another spell afterwards • Fixed issue when activating the Wrath of the Gods miracle through a catalyst held in the character's right hand, the idle time after the spell cast was longer than it should be • Decreased vitality recovery when using the Projected Heal miracle • Increased stamina consumption of Lightning Arrow and decreased stamina recovery speed while the player is drawing the bow • Fixed issue where players could parry the Flame Fan • Fixed several other small issues[/QUOTE] Buffs to Spear under gank assault.

Why the fuck did they buff the RKPGS am I missing something here?

[QUOTE=UntouchedShadow;52210552]Why the fuck did they buff the RKPGS am I missing something here?[/QUOTE] It was nerfed not long after release and honestly it was a bit much Rotation speed nerf doesnt sound too bad for both the receiving side or the delivering side

[QUOTE=Jarokwa;52210560]why are undead/mutated dogs always so god damn annoying in literally every game they're in glad i'm a cat person[/QUOTE] Because they can pretty much teleport and have an insanely shit moveset

[QUOTE=J!NX;52210708]Because they can pretty much teleport and have an insanely shit moveset[/QUOTE] they don't "pretty much" teleport [video=youtube;6eaPjb_qjRI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eaPjb_qjRI[/video] fuckin dags

[QUOTE=Kiwi;52210886]Increased attack power and decreased stamina consumption for Farron Greatsword Hell yeah[/QUOTE] Can't wait to see more breakdancers.

That staircase of 8 Harald knights can fuck right off. I'd rather deal with the Ringed Knights more than them.

[QUOTE=Jarokwa;52210560]why are undead/mutated dogs always so god damn annoying in literally every game they're in glad i'm a cat person[/QUOTE] I never had any problems with the dogs in DS3 but they were fucking awful in BB and DS1. I don't remember any in DS2 but that's because everything else was more frustrating.

[QUOTE=Sewer guy;52211244]That staircase of 8 Harald knights can fuck right off. I'd rather deal with the Ringed Knights more than them.[/QUOTE] [sp]if you do a plunging attack onto one you can bring it down to really low health or just straight up murder that son of a bitch[/sp] but yeah, that staircase is a total pain.

[QUOTE=LurkingKing;52211285][sp]if you do a plunging attack onto one you can bring it down to really low health or just straight up murder that son of a bitch[/sp] but yeah, that staircase is a total pain.[/QUOTE] I already know about the [sp]plunging attack[/sp], the issue is so many of them right next to each other in close quarters. And you aggro one, you aggro them all

[QUOTE=Sewer guy;52211298]I already know about the [sp]plunging attack[/sp], the issue is so many of them right next to each other in close quarters. And you aggro one, you aggro them all[/QUOTE] in that case, just do the honorable thing- grab all the shiny items and cheese it :v:

[quote]• Decreased attack power and R1 projectiles of the Blade of Peril skill attached to Gael's Greatsword[/quote] Projectile? What projectile?

[QUOTE=Nidhogg;52211324]Projectile? What projectile?[/QUOTE] Undiscovered tech? Or maybe just a typo.

[QUOTE=Nidhogg;52211324]Projectile? What projectile?[/QUOTE] The classics of Dark Souls patch notes - cryptic japanese mixed with google translate.

[QUOTE=Nidhogg;52211324]Projectile? What projectile?[/QUOTE] probably the hitbox

[QUOTE=Nidhogg;52211324]Projectile? What projectile?[/QUOTE] R1 of the weapon art got nerfed in some way is what it means. Maybe it no longer 3 hit true combos?

[QUOTE=Daemon White;52211826]R1 of the weapon art got nerfed in some way is what it means. Maybe it no longer 3 hit true combos?[/QUOTE] Might as well remove every weapon's combos. The Splitleaf Greatsword has insane combo potential for example.

[QUOTE=Sewer guy;52211244]That staircase of 8 Harald knights can fuck right off. I'd rather deal with the Ringed Knights more than them.[/QUOTE] while its a pain to rerun through the area, there are little nooks and crannies all over that staircase where you can wait for them to pass before moving on. there's one immediately to the right of where you first hit the staircase.

[QUOTE=lxmach1;52211929]while its a pain to rerun through the area, there are little nooks and crannies all over that staircase where you can wait for them to pass before moving on. there's one immediately to the right of where you first hit the staircase.[/QUOTE] Also, drop attack their face for insane damage if you can single one out.

Greathammers and similar weapons can stunlock Harald knights too if you're going str.

[QUOTE=Dr.C;52211277]I never had any problems with the dogs in DS3 but they were fucking awful in BB and DS1. I don't remember any in DS2 but that's because everything else was more frustrating.[/QUOTE] Dogs in DS2 are the easiest to deal with funnily enough. They don't have stupidly accurate tracking and don't spam attacks and dodges constantly before you can even attack.