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[QUOTE=Apollo;47600940]I liked Persona 3 a lot more than 4. It's overall pretty solid for what it is and I like the characters. I was actually getting ready to start a playthrough as a girl for the first time. I just wish it didn't have Aigis in it, or rather her role was greatly reduced. She is a huge sticking point for me.[/QUOTE] Yeah I did too. I understand why people love 4 but 3 hit me on a much more personal level and somehow the flaws in the gameplay actually appeal to me more. Like when I understood that the AI control was there to make your party members feel more like people rather than tools, that made me appreciate it more, cuz I love when games try to use meaningful mechanics. Obviously it wasn't the best implementation, but I love the intention at least. I loved Aigis personally. Since the game is very much about having a purpose in life and living to your fullest despite an inevitable death, it was good to have a character that from the start has no concept of life or death, but learns it through the course of the game. It's one of the links that helps solidify the message of the game. I can't think of too many other ways they would have worked the story without her, to be honest. I can understand what you mean though. The only thing I can say I really disliked with her is that [sp] No matter what, you're always in her lap at the end rather than any other girl you like. I can understand why since she's the only other one who remembers, plus her and Yukari were the most pushed romance options, but it's still a bit of a bummer to not have that tender moment with whomever you want. She was my favorite girl so I didn't mind, but it bothered me a bit that there's no other option[/sp] I will say storywise I think P2 might be becoming my favorite, but P3 will probably always be my favorite persona since it hits that perfect middle road of great gameplay and great story instead of one suffering significantly to the other. Plus it kinda came at a perfect time for me and helped me with a lot of stuff mentally so it's kind of a sentimental thing I guess. I don't really dislike any of the personas though, I like all of them a lot.
[QUOTE=HWECQI;47601011]Yeah I did too. I understand why people love 4 but 3 hit me on a much more personal level and somehow the flaws in the gameplay actually appeal to me more. Like when I understood that the AI control was there to make your party members feel more like people rather than tools, that made me appreciate it more, cuz I love when games try to use meaningful mechanics. Obviously it wasn't the best implementation, but I love the intention at least. I loved Aigis personally. Since the game is very much about having a purpose in life and living to your fullest despite an inevitable death, it was good to have a character that from the start has no concept of life or death, but learns it through the course of the game. It's one of the links that helps solidify the message of the game. I can't think of too many other ways they would have worked the story without her, to be honest. I can understand what you mean though. The only thing I can say I really disliked with her is that [sp] No matter what, you're always in her lap at the end rather than any other girl you like. I can understand why since she's the only other one who remembers, plus her and Yukari were the most pushed romance options, but it's still a bit of a bummer to not have that tender moment with whomever you want. She was my favorite girl so I didn't mind, but it bothered me a bit that there's no other option[/sp] I will say storywise I think P2 might be becoming my favorite, but P3 will probably always be my favorite persona since it hits that perfect middle road of great gameplay and great story instead of one suffering significantly to the other. Plus it kinda came at a perfect time for me and helped me with a lot of stuff mentally so it's kind of a sentimental thing I guess. I don't really dislike any of the personas though, I like all of them a lot.[/QUOTE] That spoilered part is precisely what I'm talking about. I understand why she exists, and she definitely has a role to play, but man did that leave a bad taste in my mouth. She hijacked everything, and though I can see how if people liked her that wouldn't have been such an issue but it really irritated me. [sp]Especially since I am a Yukari kind of guy and she just got left in the lurch.[/sp] It was just super jarring and kind of put a damper on the whole experience for me. Besides her, I liked the game well enough. I enjoyed most of the social links, the cast was solid, and the gameplay was good enough for me to just tune out to and grind through floors while I watched Law and Order: SVU reruns. (I played it on the PSP.)
[QUOTE=Apollo;47601117]That spoilered part is precisely what I'm talking about. I understand why she exists, and she definitely has a role to play, but man did that leave a bad taste in my mouth. She hijacked everything, and though I can see how if people liked her that wouldn't have been such an issue but it really irritated me. [sp]Especially since I am a Yukari kind of guy and she just got left in the lurch.[/sp] It was just super jarring and kind of put a damper on the whole experience for me. Besides her, I liked the game well enough. I enjoyed most of the social links, the cast was solid, and the gameplay was good enough for me to just tune out to and grind through floors while I watched Law and Order: SVU reruns. (I played it on the PSP.)[/QUOTE] Ahh I see. For me it wasn't enough to ruin the experience any, and given their plans for The Answer they probably wanted to do that to make sure it'd make sense. Do remember they had a similar thing with Yukari early in the game though, so it isn't just Aigis that gets kind of a jarring focus. [sp] If you remember, that beach scene when Yukari is crying after learning that Mitsuru knew about her dad and stuff, you get kinda forced on an almost romantic moment with her, which gets broken up by Junpei. Plus even before that, you have that moment in the hotel where you and her are charmed and almost boink. They pushed Yukari a lot too, not just Aigis. In fact if I remember right, before the social link system was created, Yukari was planned to be the only love interest, kinda like Maya in P2[/sp]
[QUOTE=HWECQI;47601138]Ahh I see. For me it wasn't enough to ruin the experience any, and given their plans for The Answer they probably wanted to do that to make sure it'd make sense. Do remember they had a similar thing with Yukari early in the game though, so it isn't just Aigis that gets kind of a jarring focus. [sp] If you remember, that beach scene when Yukari is crying after learning that Mitsuru knew about her dad and stuff, you get kinda forced on an almost romantic moment with her, which gets broken up by Junpei. Plus even before that, you have that moment in the hotel where you and her are charmed and almost boink. They pushed Yukari a lot too, not just Aigis. In fact if I remember right, before the social link system was created, Yukari was planned to be the only love interest, kinda like Maya in P2[/sp][/QUOTE] Yeah, I definitely remember them pushing Yukari too, which made it even weirder when they kind of just dropped her like a bad habit.
[QUOTE=Apollo;47601226]Yeah, I definitely remember them pushing Yukari too, which made it even weirder when they kind of just dropped her like a bad habit.[/QUOTE] It didn't really feel like they dropped her to me, especially since she was pretty important in The Answer. I think it just seems like she was forgotten since she didn't [sp]get that exact last moment with the protagonist. She still mattered a lot up to the end about as much as everyone else, the only way Aigis got more spotlight was because of her being the only one to remember along with the protagonist, which I think was more of a lapse in judgement since P3P let you have different characters at the end, at least in the FemMC route.[/sp]
[QUOTE=HWECQI;47601253]It didn't really feel like they dropped her to me, especially since she was pretty important in The Answer. I think it just seems like she was forgotten since she didn't [sp]get that exact last moment with the protagonist. She still mattered a lot up to the end about as much as everyone else, the only way Aigis got more spotlight was because of her being the only one to remember along with the protagonist, which I think was more of a lapse in judgement since P3P let you have different characters at the end, at least in the FemMC route.[/sp][/QUOTE] I didn't get to play that since it's not part of the P3P package, I think.
[QUOTE=Apollo;47601558]I didn't get to play that since it's not part of the P3P package, I think.[/QUOTE] Ah right If you can ever play it, I recommend it. It's not the best since It's kind of repetitive gameplay wise and it takes a lot of dungeon crawling to get plot to happen, but it has a good story and kind of gives a good wrap up to the characters post P3. It might be harder to adjust since it doesn't have AI control since it's from FES, but I think it's worth a try. Either that or watch a lets play of it if you only wanna see the story
[QUOTE=Apollo;47601558]I didn't get to play that since it's not part of the P3P package, I think.[/QUOTE] Enjoy the jump back. You will absolutely hate not being able to control your party members. Otherwise, FES is worth it for The Answer.
As someone who just got into the Persona games this year, I gotta throw my lot in with loving P3P, especially playing as the female main character. Finished the NG+ with all the social links complete just a few days ago, and it's been on my mind pretty hard. I dunno about the first two games, but I was a little disappointed that Persona 3, 4 and 5 all looked to be about a high school guy in Japan secretly doing RPG stuff on the side. I beat Persona 4 first, and loved it, but P3 FES looked to be cut from a lot of the same cloth story wise, albeit a more darker tone, and I wasn't sure I was up for another 60 hour romp down that road. Then I saw P3P had the FeMC, and decided to give that a try. I was worried that it was going to be a palette swap job, replacing hes with shes and changing up the social links a bit, but holy shit, I absolutely loved playing as her. A lot of that sentiment came from how it felt like P3P was subverting what felt like a pretty well-worn story that I've seen. I had fun with all the dating antics in Persona 4, but looking at FES, it seems to be laid on really thick there. But in P3P, compared to the game saying "Here is a girl in the same grade as you, wearing pink, with the Lovers arcana, who you heroically rescue on a full moon. LOVE HER", she instead becomes your best friend throughout all the shit going, who you get to rag on Junpei for being a pervert at the start with. It's also one of the games that I've actually roleplayed in, trying to step into someone else's shoes. I've mostly played as myself in RPGs, choosing whatever dialog options first come to mind, or played female characters to mix things up, but it not really affecting how I play or perceive the world. But god damn, I ended up getting ridiculously invested in SEES and all the other characters in Persona 3 in a way I never have before. I could go on and on about how Mitsuru is such an inspiring, if extremely intimidating role model, or how Akihiko is a hot stud to fawn over, while Shinjiro is someone who I can actually care for and get close to, or how it wasn't really Ken's fault in the end, but I still end up irrationally resenting him for a while, and so on and so on. Persona 4 is an incredibly charismatic game, with it's visuals and music and lovable characters, but I genuinely loved everyone in SEES after playing all the way through it. The ending still got me, even though like everyone else who's looked at P4AU first, I had spoiled it for myself. [sp]I thought she was supposed to die right on the 31st, and bought it for a time that she actually did survive. But as reality began to unravel a bit, it became clear that she didn't really make it back.[/sp] I was a little disappointed popping into The Answer for a bit, [sp]learning that everything that happened was literal, and she just died on the rooftop as everyone fully came back to their memories. I thought she never actually made it back from Nyx, and it was everyone's memories of her/a spooky ghost reconciling and saying goodbye.[/sp] So yeah, P3P definitely holds up to me as an incredible game, in spite of the visual novel style and pretty easy gameplay, and it'll be hard to top from the other games in the series. Part of me is a little sad that it's the only game the FeMC appears in, as she is the definitive protagonist of the events of Persona 3 for me. I don't think I'll be able to play PQ or watch that movie, and The Answer is tough to get through with this blue haired kid running around. On the other hand, it's kinda nice for it to be contained in one great game, one that'll stick with me. I ended up naming her Aradia, I'll mention seeing as FNR and others are here, which I think is pretty damn appropriate in a lot of ways. If Megido wasn't a skill in the game, it wouldn't be so quite on the nose, but it matches up really well. [sp]Now she just needs to possess Aigis as a spooky ghost and go back in time to maul Ikutsuki or something. Pretty sure I saw a spirograph on the moon at the end there, basically confirms it's all the same universe.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Terin7;47601856]As someone who just got into the Persona games this year, I gotta throw my lot in with loving P3P, especially playing as the female main character. Finished the NG+ with all the social links complete just a few days ago, and it's been on my mind pretty hard. I dunno about the first two games, but I was a little disappointed that Persona 3, 4 and 5 all looked to be about a high school guy in Japan secretly doing RPG stuff on the side. I beat Persona 4 first, and loved it, but P3 FES looked to be cut from a lot of the same cloth story wise, albeit a more darker tone, and I wasn't sure I was up for another 60 hour romp down that road. Then I saw P3P had the FeMC, and decided to give that a try. I was worried that it was going to be a palette swap job, replacing hes with shes and changing up the social links a bit, but holy shit, I absolutely loved playing as her. A lot of that sentiment came from how it felt like P3P was subverting what felt like a pretty well-worn story that I've seen. I had fun with all the dating antics in Persona 4, but looking at FES, it seems to be laid on really thick there. But in P3P, compared to the game saying "Here is a girl in the same grade as you, wearing pink, with the Lovers arcana, who you heroically rescue on a full moon. LOVE HER", she instead becomes your best friend throughout all the shit going, who you get to rag on Junpei for being a pervert at the start with. It's also one of the games that I've actually roleplayed in, trying to step into someone else's shoes. I've mostly played as myself in RPGs, choosing whatever dialog options first come to mind, or played female characters to mix things up, but it not really affecting how I play or perceive the world. But god damn, I ended up getting ridiculously invested in SEES and all the other characters in Persona 3 in a way I never have before. I could go on and on about how Mitsuru is such an inspiring, if extremely intimidating role model, or how Akihiko is a hot stud to fawn over, while Shinjiro is someone who I can actually care for and get close to, or how it wasn't really Ken's fault in the end, but I still end up irrationally resenting him for a while, and so on and so on. Persona 4 is an incredibly charismatic game, with it's visuals and music and lovable characters, but I genuinely loved everyone in SEES after playing all the way through it. The ending still got me, even though like everyone else who's looked at P4AU first, I had spoiled it for myself. [sp]I thought she was supposed to die right on the 31st, and bought it for a time that she actually did survive. But as reality began to unravel a bit, it became clear that she didn't really make it back.[/sp] I was a little disappointed popping into The Answer for a bit, [sp]learning that everything that happened was literal, and she just died on the rooftop as everyone fully came back to their memories. I thought she never actually made it back from Nyx, and it was everyone's memories of her/a spooky ghost reconciling and saying goodbye.[/sp] So yeah, P3P definitely holds up to me as an incredible game, in spite of the visual novel style and pretty easy gameplay, and it'll be hard to top from the other games in the series. Part of me is a little sad that it's the only game the FeMC appears in, as she is the definitive protagonist of the events of Persona 3 for me. I don't think I'll be able to play PQ or watch that movie, and The Answer is tough to get through with this blue haired kid running around. On the other hand, it's kinda nice for it to be contained in one great game, one that'll stick with me. I ended up naming her Aradia, I'll mention seeing as FNR and others are here, which I think is pretty damn appropriate in a lot of ways. If Megido wasn't a skill in the game, it wouldn't be so quite on the nose, but it matches up really well. [sp]Now she just needs to possess Aigis as a spooky ghost and go back in time to maul Ikutsuki or something. Pretty sure I saw a spirograph on the moon at the end there, basically confirms it's all the same universe.[/sp][/QUOTE] Glad you were able to get into the series! I also really enjoy FemMC with her fresh perspective on the story. I'm personally really attached to the male main character, but I did have a really fun time being the girl. Its impressive how they were able to subtley change how they felt enough so you really got the sense you were a different, more plucky person. The music changes and the social link changes help a lot in that regard. I do definitely recommend you play PQ still and the original Male protagonist campaign, cuz they're very good. Persona 1 and 2 are still about high school students, but they're a lot different storywise from P3 and P4. They feel very different and play very different, so if you also want more Persona but want something different, they're worth checking out, despite the age. If you want games that play similarly though and don't center around high school students, I definitely recommend playing the mainline Shin Megami Tensei games, or something like Digital Devil Saga. They're very good and I honestly find they're more fun to play since the combat is more in depth.You might enjoy them! [editline]25th April 2015[/editline] I should correct myself actually, Persona 2 Innocent Sin centers around high school students, Persona 2 Eternal Punishment centers around proper adults and stuff, but that one is the only one not about high school students
[quote]I do definitely recommend you play PQ still and the original Male protagonist campaign, cuz they're very good and not really quite the same as P4 is. Persona 1 and 2 are still about high school students, but they're a lot different storywise from P3 and P4, much different direction.[/quote]Yeah, I'm giving the male playthrough a go right now, mostly to see all the social links. Thank goodness you can switch genders in a NG+, so I can just roll through the new moon events with Orpheus Telos. Ms. Toriumi's link seems really cool, while Kenji's does not seem promising at all. I think I had enough of him with Rio's link, and god damn Junpei just save me from him. [quote]If you want games that play similarly though and don't center around high school students, I definitely recommend playing the mainline Shin Megami Tensei games, or something like Digital Devil Saga. They're very good and I honestly find they're more fun to play since the combat is more in depth.You might enjoy them![/QUOTE]That thought was more that they were all about guys, not it being in high school, since I understand that's what the Persona games are fundamentally about. Was hoping that one of the more modern games would be built from the ground up with a female protagonist, but Atlus did such an incredible job with P3P that it might as well been at that point. Mitsuru's social link feels a little weak playing as the FeMC, but I'm glad that all the male SEES ones were built from the ground up for her. Still will probably look at the main Shin Megami Tensei games though, now that I'm up to snuff on my Zios, Dias, and Jack Frosts.
[QUOTE=Terin7;47601954]Yeah, I'm giving the male playthrough a go right now, mostly to see all the social links. Thank goodness you can switch genders in a NG+, so I can just roll through the new moon events with Orpheus Telos. Ms. Toriumi's link seems really cool, while Kenji's does not seem promising at all. I think I had enough of him with Rio's link, and god damn Junpei just save me from him. [/QUOTE] Yeah Kenji is kind of a dick but he's really funny to laugh at. Pretty sure you get the option to literally do that in front of him, ahaha Junpei becomes a real bro though later on, but he's still Junpei either way I suppose so if you aint into Da Man I guess you wont ever like him [Quote]That thought was more that they were all about guys, not it being in high school, since I understand that's what the Persona games are fundamentally about. Was hoping that one of the more modern games would be built from the ground up with a female protagonist, but Atlus did such an incredible job with P3P that it might as well been at that point. Mitsuru's social link feels a little weak playing as the FeMC, but I'm glad that all the male SEES ones were built from the ground up for her. [/QUOTE] Ahh that makes sense. I dunno if they'll ever do somethin like that again, but I'm glad they tried it at least once, even if it was probably mostly to sell P3P since its gimped in a lot of ways from P3 FES. I'd love to see them do another female character though. [QUOTE]Still will probably look at the main Shin Megami Tensei games though, now that I'm up to snuff on my Zios, Dias, and Jack Frosts.[/QUOTE] That'd be cool! Persona was my starter into the series and I ended up really liking the other games in the series. Hope you end up enjoying them all as much as I've enjoyed them!
[QUOTE=HWECQI;47599592]Considering that that's never been a thing in Project Diva I dunno why you expected otherwise.[/QUOTE] When I played f on the ps3 I'm pretty sure you could choose whichever vocaloid you wanted to play as even when it made no sense. It was pretty funny watching the dude vocaloids dancing like Miku or Luka (Since it only changed the model, not the animations)
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;47602094]When I played f on the ps3 I'm pretty sure you could choose whichever vocaloid you wanted to play as even when it made no sense. It was pretty funny watching the dude vocaloids dancing like Miku or Luka (Since it only changed the model, not the animations)[/QUOTE] Oh, I was misinformed then I guess, that sounds hilarious though we need Kanji to shake his booty like Naoto did
I didn't care for Aigis at first but as the game progressed and she started to adopt more human-like mannerisms (especially in her tone of voice and choice of vocab, and ESPECIALLY during battles) she started to become one of the better characters for me. She's no Junpei but she's still hella. Plus she's extremely useful in battle and is definitely endgame material, what with knowing all the party stat-buffing skills.
Looking at Aigis in the P3 lineup, I figured she would mostly be "CAN AN ANIME ROBOT LADY HAVE A SOUL", but she developed really well. I especially liked how she not only brought the perspective on suddenly becoming mortal, but also realizing all her friends are as well. That one day, they would no longer be there, and that she had to treasure every moment they spend together. I can see why it's kinda annoying that she's the one there at the end despite how you feel about her, watching the ending on youtube made it seem like whoever you were with would be the one there, but it makes sense seeing that she carries the torch forward. [sp]I felt really bad for after looking at the Answer, because she just received a big cosmic Fuck You. I thought the main character died at the final boss, and the post game wrap up was basically a memory visiting everyone, and it felt like Aigis was subconsciously seeing past it. The way she kept going on, saying "I'll protect you" made it sound like she was going to protect the memories of the protagonist, to make sure not to let anyone forget about them. But instead, she was talking about actually protecting them, then suddenly DEAD. Whoops![/sp]
[QUOTE=HWECQI;47601011]Yeah I did too. I understand why people love 4 but 3 hit me on a much more personal level and somehow the flaws in the gameplay actually appeal to me more. Like when I understood that the AI control was there to make your party members feel more like people rather than tools, that made me appreciate it more, cuz I love when games try to use meaningful mechanics. Obviously it wasn't the best implementation, but I love the intention at least. I loved Aigis personally. Since the game is very much about having a purpose in life and living to your fullest despite an inevitable death, it was good to have a character that from the start has no concept of life or death, but learns it through the course of the game. It's one of the links that helps solidify the message of the game. I can't think of too many other ways they would have worked the story without her, to be honest. I can understand what you mean though. The only thing I can say I really disliked with her is that [sp] No matter what, you're always in her lap at the end rather than any other girl you like. I can understand why since she's the only other one who remembers, plus her and Yukari were the most pushed romance options, but it's still a bit of a bummer to not have that tender moment with whomever you want. She was my favorite girl so I didn't mind, but it bothered me a bit that there's no other option[/sp] I will say storywise I think P2 might be becoming my favorite, but P3 will probably always be my favorite persona since it hits that perfect middle road of great gameplay and great story instead of one suffering significantly to the other. Plus it kinda came at a perfect time for me and helped me with a lot of stuff mentally so it's kind of a sentimental thing I guess. I don't really dislike any of the personas though, I like all of them a lot.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Apollo;47601117]That spoilered part is precisely what I'm talking about. I understand why she exists, and she definitely has a role to play, but man did that leave a bad taste in my mouth. She hijacked everything, and though I can see how if people liked her that wouldn't have been such an issue but it really irritated me. [sp]Especially since I am a Yukari kind of guy and she just got left in the lurch.[/sp] It was just super jarring and kind of put a damper on the whole experience for me. Besides her, I liked the game well enough. I enjoyed most of the social links, the cast was solid, and the gameplay was good enough for me to just tune out to and grind through floors while I watched Law and Order: SVU reruns. (I played it on the PSP.)[/QUOTE] [sp]Uh did you guys miss the entire point of Aigis being the alpha and the omega? She's the one who started it and she's the one to see it end.[/sp] [QUOTE=Terin7;47601856]As someone who just got into the Persona games this year, I gotta throw my lot in with loving P3P, especially playing as the female main character. Finished the NG+ with all the social links complete just a few days ago, and it's been on my mind pretty hard. I dunno about the first two games, but I was a little disappointed that Persona 3, 4 and 5 all looked to be about a high school guy in Japan secretly doing RPG stuff on the side. I beat Persona 4 first, and loved it, but P3 FES looked to be cut from a lot of the same cloth story wise, albeit a more darker tone, and I wasn't sure I was up for another 60 hour romp down that road. Then I saw P3P had the FeMC, and decided to give that a try. I was worried that it was going to be a palette swap job, replacing hes with shes and changing up the social links a bit, but holy shit, I absolutely loved playing as her. A lot of that sentiment came from how it felt like P3P was subverting what felt like a pretty well-worn story that I've seen. I had fun with all the dating antics in Persona 4, but looking at FES, it seems to be laid on really thick there. But in P3P, compared to the game saying "Here is a girl in the same grade as you, wearing pink, with the Lovers arcana, who you heroically rescue on a full moon. LOVE HER", she instead becomes your best friend throughout all the shit going, who you get to rag on Junpei for being a pervert at the start with. It's also one of the games that I've actually roleplayed in, trying to step into someone else's shoes. I've mostly played as myself in RPGs, choosing whatever dialog options first come to mind, or played female characters to mix things up, but it not really affecting how I play or perceive the world. But god damn, I ended up getting ridiculously invested in SEES and all the other characters in Persona 3 in a way I never have before. I could go on and on about how Mitsuru is such an inspiring, if extremely intimidating role model, or how Akihiko is a hot stud to fawn over, while Shinjiro is someone who I can actually care for and get close to, or how it wasn't really Ken's fault in the end, but I still end up irrationally resenting him for a while, and so on and so on. Persona 4 is an incredibly charismatic game, with it's visuals and music and lovable characters, but I genuinely loved everyone in SEES after playing all the way through it. The ending still got me, even though like everyone else who's looked at P4AU first, I had spoiled it for myself. [sp]I thought she was supposed to die right on the 31st, and bought it for a time that she actually did survive. But as reality began to unravel a bit, it became clear that she didn't really make it back.[/sp] I was a little disappointed popping into The Answer for a bit, [sp]learning that everything that happened was literal, and she just died on the rooftop as everyone fully came back to their memories. I thought she never actually made it back from Nyx, and it was everyone's memories of her/a spooky ghost reconciling and saying goodbye.[/sp] So yeah, P3P definitely holds up to me as an incredible game, in spite of the visual novel style and pretty easy gameplay, and it'll be hard to top from the other games in the series. Part of me is a little sad that it's the only game the FeMC appears in, as she is the definitive protagonist of the events of Persona 3 for me. I don't think I'll be able to play PQ or watch that movie, and The Answer is tough to get through with this blue haired kid running around. On the other hand, it's kinda nice for it to be contained in one great game, one that'll stick with me. I ended up naming her Aradia, I'll mention seeing as FNR and others are here, which I think is pretty damn appropriate in a lot of ways. If Megido wasn't a skill in the game, it wouldn't be so quite on the nose, but it matches up really well. [sp]Now she just needs to possess Aigis as a spooky ghost and go back in time to maul Ikutsuki or something. Pretty sure I saw a spirograph on the moon at the end there, basically confirms it's all the same universe.[/sp][/QUOTE] You should have played FES instead of P3P, it's a way better experience. [QUOTE=Terin7;47602433]Looking at Aigis in the P3 lineup, I figured she would mostly be "CAN AN ANIME ROBOT LADY HAVE A SOUL", but she developed really well. I especially liked how she not only brought the perspective on suddenly becoming mortal, but also realizing all her friends are as well. That one day, they would no longer be there, and that she had to treasure every moment they spend together. I can see why it's kinda annoying that she's the one there at the end despite how you feel about her, watching the ending on youtube made it seem like whoever you were with would be the one there, but it makes sense seeing that she carries the torch forward. [sp]I felt really bad for after looking at the Answer, because she just received a big cosmic Fuck You. I thought the main character died at the final boss, and the post game wrap up was basically a memory visiting everyone, and it felt like Aigis was subconsciously seeing past it. The way she kept going on, saying "I'll protect you" made it sound like she was going to protect the memories of the protagonist, to make sure not to let anyone forget about them. But instead, she was talking about actually protecting them, then suddenly DEAD. Whoops![/sp][/QUOTE] And you watched The Answer instead of playing it? I think you've actually managed to go about the worst way of experiencing Persona 3. The Answer isn't about Aigis carrying the torch is about how SEES was running away from their regret and it's about how finally get past the ending of P3.
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;47603702]You should have played FES instead of P3P, it's a way better experience.[/quote]I dabbled in both before settling on P3P. I was getting so much out playing as the female main character, that it was worth it to miss out on a 3D world and animated cutscenes. That whole post was why I felt that P3P was a much better experience for me than FES would have been. [quote]And you watched The Answer instead of playing it? I think you've actually managed to go about the worst way of experiencing Persona 3. The Answer isn't about Aigis carrying the torch is about how SEES was running away from their regret and it's about how finally get past the ending of P3.[/QUOTE]What? No, I got through the intro of it and played for like 15 minutes to get the fact that [sp]the protagonist died on the roof at the end, not on January 31st[/sp]. I hit a roadblock when it took 4 Hamas from Ken to take out someone weak to light, but I'm probably still going to go back and keep trying. I thought I heard Aigis was a pretty major character in P4AU, so that's where I got that the "carrying the torch" of the main character from.
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;47603702][sp]Uh did you guys miss the entire point of Aigis being the alpha and the omega? She's the one who started it and she's the one to see it end.[/sp] You should have played FES instead of P3P, it's a way better experience. And you watched The Answer instead of playing it? I think you've actually managed to go about the worst way of experiencing Persona 3. The Answer isn't about Aigis carrying the torch is about how SEES was running away from their regret and it's about how finally get past the ending of P3.[/QUOTE] I understand it was written that way. I'm saying I didn't like it.
SMT4 has taught me that everyone in Japan is Yuri Lowenthal.
[QUOTE=HWECQI;47601138] [sp]Plus even before that, you have that moment in the hotel where you and her are charmed and almost boink.[/sp][/QUOTE] Being FeMC was even better. I ended up[sp]almost boinking Akihiko in that. When we ran into Yukari and Mitsuru the next floor up, Mitsuru vehemently denied anything happened. Couldn't I have gotten that scene instead?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Terin7;47604735]I dabbled in both before settling on P3P. I was getting so much out playing as the female main character, that it was worth it to miss out on a 3D world and animated cutscenes. That whole post was why I felt that P3P was a much better experience for me than FES would have been. What? No, I got through the intro of it and played for like 15 minutes to get the fact that [sp]the protagonist died on the roof at the end, not on January 31st[/sp]. I hit a roadblock when it took 4 Hamas from Ken to take out someone weak to light, but I'm probably still going to go back and keep trying. I thought I heard Aigis was a pretty major character in P4AU, so that's where I got that the "carrying the torch" of the main character from.[/QUOTE] Well in P4U2 the main character is Yu Narukami and the same goes for P4U2
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;47603702][sp]Uh did you guys miss the entire point of Aigis being the alpha and the omega? She's the one who started it and she's the one to see it end.[/sp] [/QUOTE] [sp]Yeah I did, and that's why I understood it and thought it was fine. That doesn't really change that it kinda clashes against the social link system when you're supposed to be able to have romance with whoever you want, and the most tender moment in the game is with Aigis no matter what you do. I was fine with it and thought it was fitting, and I understand why it was done this way, but that doesn't change that it kinda clashes with the gameplay.[/sp]
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;47605137]Well in P4U2 the main character is Yu Narukami and the same goes for P4U2[/QUOTE]Well, yeah. It's a Persona 4 game from the start. I meant as a part of the Persona 3 crew. The futures of basically everyone from SEES were really up in the air, but especially Aigis. She has the most to prove, the most who needs something to live for after Persona 3, and it seems like P4AU would give her a lot of focus in that department. That's going off vague memories of what I heard about Aigis in that game, though. I'm waiting on getting a Vita to play P4G before getting P4AU, so I'll have to wait to see what happens. I really like Aigis as a character, which got misunderstood on the last page, and I want to see how she's like 2 years down the line, and what she's doing.
[QUOTE=Terin7;47605907]Well, yeah. It's a Persona 4 game from the start. I meant as a part of the Persona 3 crew. The futures of basically everyone from SEES were really up in the air, but especially Aigis. She has the most to prove, the most who needs something to live for after Persona 3, and it seems like P4AU would give her a lot of focus in that department. That's going off vague memories of what I heard about Aigis in that game, though. I'm waiting on getting a Vita to play P4G before getting P4AU, so I'll have to wait to see what happens. I really like Aigis as a character, which got misunderstood on the last page, and I want to see how she's like 2 years down the line, and what she's doing.[/QUOTE] If anything Mitsuru is the main character of the P3 crew for P4U and Labrys is the main character of the P3 crew in P4U2
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;47602094]When I played f on the ps3 I'm pretty sure you could choose whichever vocaloid you wanted to play as even when it made no sense. It was pretty funny watching the dude vocaloids dancing like Miku or Luka (Since it only changed the model, not the animations)[/QUOTE] To be fair, I think all the vocaloids are made off the same base model so it's easy for them to swap without the animations being totally fucked.
so thats what i was doing wrong!! I guess I need to find the RJC persona and Obama persona....
[QUOTE=Jackald;47608084]Don't forget a fuckton of gin.[/QUOTE] ? [t]http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090714144727/megamitensei/images/7/73/C_p10.gif[/t]
You just reminded me that DS2 Record Breaker comes out in a week.
I'm kind of excited for that I mean despite hearing it's not quite as good as DS1, I just am excited to have another game like DS with that kind of combat, cuz I really had fun with it.
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