[QUOTE=Finale;51809671]It's unchanged. DW=OD in stealth. Other problems with the game's balance and stability, introduced with Housewarming, are still present.[/QUOTE]
That's one semi-relieving thing, the other stuff is unfortunate to hear. Thanks for answering though.
[QUOTE=brenz;51810385]Thanny would get dumped because of lower ammo efficiency.[/QUOTE]
I thought the Thanatos was already ruled out? I seem to remember it was still inconvenient to use even prior to the difficulty tweaks.
But in general, I think sniper rifles are a mess. It all started to go downhill for me when they made the tiers of sniper rifle so prominent, and uniform in damage. It makes it so that you'll basically only choose the rifle in each tier that fires the fastest, but also has a good magazine capacity. Reload speed doesn't matter so much anymore because of that one skill that boosts it after a head shot, so anything that fires fast is automatically better already.
Sniper rifles seem like something that should have much more unique stats than just put into a light/medium/heavy tier like Overkill did. I'm sure it makes things simpler for them, but it doesn't make for much wiggle room in terms of what's most efficient, and it kills a lot of sniper rifles because they might be slow-firing, or have pitiful magazine sizes.
[QUOTE=Notanything;51810454]That's one semi-relieving thing, the other stuff is unfortunate to hear. Thanks for answering though.
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I actually need to correct myself on that- Yacht heist has more civilians spawned on OD than DW.
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you can also softlock undercover in PDTH except this time it's "different" in that it can also softlock the escape trigger
i joked that alex got embarassed from his failure at getting the car on the roof that he ran off and never came back :v:
i "think" DorHUD fixes this. if it doesn't well that's news to me
and the circuit box on the roof at the right staircase went out twice 3 seconds after i turned it back on twice. so i think it's also why the same "progress prevention" glitch is in PD2 undercover
So what weapom overhaul is updated and is good to use?
Man, it's been a hot second since I actually went back and played The Heist. I forgot that clearing the roof is actually fairly tough.
[QUOTE=Diet Kane;51807901]john wick 2 stuff because I dunno where else to talk about it
[sp]I'm honestly underwhelmed. Action and set pieces were great, yeah, but the plot wasn't concise enough like in the original. 3 better fucking feature the Payday gang or I'm gonna riot[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]well the payday masks appear in it so it wouldn't be so far of a stretch[/sp]
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;51809837]btw thanks to the skills+boosts and the weapon mods for the new sniper you can officially bring a sniper rifle on a stealth mission without breaking your detection risk.
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You can even equip a Theia scope if you don't mind being bumped up to 6 detection risk, which isn't so bad if you're planning on being a spotter on a map like Shadow Raid.
[editline]11th February 2017[/editline]
Of course thanks to that one spotter skill, the theia isnt necessary in loud (doesnt seem to mark guards unfortunately) so you can use the contractor in a sneaky bastard basic set up with the spotting iron sights.[/QUOTE]
So not only is the Contractor .308 a direct upgrade to the Lebensauger, it also puts the Desert Fox out of business as a crit-dodge sniper.
Are any of the shotguns besides the Loco, Judge and double barrels worth it?
the raven is good
The AA12 is good too. For me all the shotguns are good, just need to know how to make some of them better and usable for higher difficulties, like the Predator
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also thanks for your answers
[QUOTE=brenz;51811883]So not only is the Contractor .308 a direct upgrade to the Lebensauger, it also puts the Desert Fox out of business as a crit-dodge sniper.[/QUOTE]
Desert fox still does double the damage
[editline]12th February 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Paranoia10;51811969]Are any of the shotguns besides the Loco, Judge and double barrels worth it?[/QUOTE]
Gsps
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;51812825][B]Desert fox still does double the damage[/B][/QUOTE]
At under half the firerate, so DPS is lower.
In other news, I decided to re-make on of my older videos.
[video]https://youtu.be/J5yqDVk4gSI[/video]
The point still stands.
I still wanna know what that song is, its fucking catchy
[QUOTE=Paranoia10;51811969]Are any of the shotguns besides the Loco, Judge and double barrels worth it?[/QUOTE]
The Saiga is actually pretty competent as a dodge weapon. Crits on an auto shotgun ain't nothin' to fuck with.
I'm a fan of the Goliath.
[quote]Added a "Civilian kill limit" to stealth, when civilian death count goes past this limit the alarm is sounded. (We No Mercy now)[/quote]
Curse you SC!
[QUOTE=E.C.S;51815090]Curse you SC![/QUOTE]
we got those cable ties why don't we use em?
It's actually not as bad as it sounds, especially since I tried to make moving civs easier. Faster movement/easier pathfinding.
[sp]Personally I'd prefer a system where we just throw civs over our shoulder like a bag for moving em.[/sp]
So has anyone figured out what the deal with those two bank heist guys is?
Didn't see anyone resembling them in the new film, didn't see any reason for them to be related to the heist pack.
Could they be a reference to something else like the first film or is there more Wick content in the future?
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;51817513]So has anyone figured out what the deal with those two bank heist guys is? [/QUOTE]
They forced Wick to count to TWO
The bastards...
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;51817513]So has anyone figured out what the deal with those two bank heist guys is?
Didn't see anyone resembling them in the new film, didn't see any reason for them to be related to the heist pack.
Could they be a reference to something else like the first film or is there more Wick content in the future?[/QUOTE]
I interpreted it as a reference to the goons from the first movie that killed his dog. We don't know what these two did but it's heavily implied they abused/killed a dog and Wick wants to pay them back for it.
"Saint Francis" (the achievement name) was the Patron Saint of Ecology and renowned for his love of animals, and the icon has a dog on it.
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Plus the side job description:
[QUOTE]"There's a line one must never cross. And it's not hurting pigs - it's hurting dogs. They're man's best friend and unlike humans they are loyal and obedient. So it's not more than fair if we hunt you down for even looking at a loveable little dachshund or schnauzer in the wrong way."[/QUOTE]
Welp the Discord was completely fucking destroyed even worse then usual thanks to the brand new bots
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[video=youtube;PEbSIPl5RU0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEbSIPl5RU0[/video]
So... this happened...
diamond heist now has proper events for OVERKILL 193+ in the dorhud 1.3.0 release
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(not pictured: two snipers by the vent near the windows to drop down to the gym, two shields at the stairs to the helipad, two snipers looking down into Roof Accees [Cafeteria & PR Department.], a cloaker hiding in a corner to the left of Roof Access [Administration & Sales Department.], a cloaker hiding in the corner below the shields.)
most people will probably panic and shoot a gl40 round at the dozer but don't. bait him away from the CFO so you don't [highlight]Kill him[/highlight] and fail the heist. (yes. you can KILL escorts in OVERKILL 193+.)
i haven't managed to last long enough to see what happens when you get ralph over to the helipad or when the vault opens, but i suspect it's a vault ambush (but this time the cops are hidden and waiting, no trucks in sight)
i also had the "cop bug" turned on (it gives dozers on 193+ enough health to survive 2 tripmine explosions [so i'd assume dozers have around 2500-3500 HP with this "feature" enabled] AND makes cops' speed more faster.)
I wish there were better 'on armor break' skills.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLxO_YHDE18[/media]
[url]http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mcdfGIKl:eFHjkl:tqr:gjlR:fGHijLMOPr:ibcdea:pH8:::[/url]
[QUOTE=GammaFive;51820905]I wish there were better 'on armor break' skills.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLxO_YHDE18[/media]
[url]http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mcdfGIKl:eFHjkl:tqr:gjlR:fGHijLMOPr:ibcdea:pH8:::[/url][/QUOTE]
Wasn't the regen delay 5 seconds? How the hell does the armor come back so fast?
[QUOTE=GammaFive;51820905]I wish there were better 'on armor break' skills.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLxO_YHDE18[/media]
[url]http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mcdfGIKl:eFHjkl:tqr:gjlR:fGHijLMOPr:ibcdea:pH8:::[/url][/QUOTE]
I want that music mod.
[QUOTE=brenz;51820909]Wasn't the regen delay 5 seconds? How the hell does the armor come back so fast?[/QUOTE]
It's 1.5 seconds now.
[QUOTE=Hatley;51820925]I want that music mod.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://modworkshop.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=18240[/url]
[QUOTE=GammaFive;51820927]It's 1.5 seconds now.[/QUOTE]
How do you regen hp?
[QUOTE=brenz;51820933]How do you regen hp?[/QUOTE]
Ace hostage taker, also I posted the pdskills build link under the video embed.
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