[QUOTE=Ilwrath;52248299]That Chieftain Mark 5 best be fucking Mark 5/4 (aka the first model that had modified ammo shelves/storage so it could carry APFSDS), I've been lusting after those APFSDS for a long while.[/QUOTE]
It's not
(sorry)
I am usually not the one to assess in this kinda cynical way but this time around, Britain tanks definitely got the short end of the stick.
States got M60A2 which is an extremely good all rounding ATGM that compares the best to IT-1, being better in some ways while already having two more regular M60s, and the same rocket launcher on the Sheridan, AS WELL AS the T95E1 medium tank with hypervelocity 90mm smoothbore [B]with APDSFS[/B], even though they could add bunch of variants with more regular turrets armed with regular L7.
Russia gets T-55A with the two best ammo types it could ralistically get short of the laser guidance gun launched ATGMs and it's even set after T-62 in the tree, admitting it's now the best Soviet medium.
Meanwhile UK gets to grind a second chieftain with nothing but a slightly stronger engine, stronger only so much that stock, it doesn't even beat the engine in the old chieftain we have. And to add an insult to the injury, the new chieftain is BR 8.3 (the old one was 8.0).
It's a little bit silly.
I don't think I will bother with Chieftain at all until regenerative steering makes it in. The tank was built around that and it just suffers badly without it.
[editline]19th May 2017[/editline]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/kcosx7K.gif[/img] tho
Yeah, the Vickers MBT when it was first designed had a better fire control system than the chieftain, and some really nice L7 features.
Because who doesn't like 13 rounds of aimed fire in 65 seconds. If we were assuming peak possible fire (no aiming and initial rate of reload) we'd be aiming closer for 15-17 rounds. IIRC there was a 5 second pause in that test to allow for some of the smoke which accumulated to disperse.
G91 GETS 2xFFAR PODS.
Spaghetti spam, one shots ANYTHING it hits. :blaze:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/rr9rgJY.jpg[/img]
ki-44-ii is a cargo plane given how much it can carry
[QUOTE=scout1;52248444]It's not
(sorry)[/QUOTE]
Well motherfucker, that's kinda really shitty, Brit end tier stuff is already gimped and now they just get a second Chieftain with practically no changes (I mean it's not a bad tank but come on, the armor ain't gonna protect jack shit with everyone using ATGMs and HEAT) while US gets an equivalent to IT-1 as millan already mentioned, and the soviets get the T-55A to go along with their T-54 spam and T-62s.
Brits and japs definitely have the short end of the stick at BR 8.0 and it's proximity.
[QUOTE=Ilwrath;52249679]Well motherfucker, that's kinda really shitty, Brit end tier stuff is already gimped and now they just get a second Chieftain with practically no changes (I mean it's not a bad tank but come on, the armor ain't gonna protect jack shit with everyone using ATGMs and HEAT) while US gets an equivalent to IT-1 as millan already mentioned, and the soviets get the T-55A to go along with their T-54 spam and T-62s.
Brits and japs definitely have the short end of the stick at BR 8.0 and it's proximity.[/QUOTE]
Suggestion for APDSFS for it is already in the tracker, so don't lose all hope yet. Somebody else pointed out elsewhere the Mk.5 should have at the very least a better APDS round than the old one. Either way, this might come a little bit later, but I would wholly expect it eventually. Can't be sure, though.
Despite the whole "UK is shafted" syndrome, I have some of my highest Era V winrates with them.
All it's really missing now, imo, is a not-armorless SACLOS ATGM, which they don't really have. In lieu of that, Humber Hornet or Ferret would be fun.
[QUOTE=millan;52248488]I am usually not the one to assess in this kinda cynical way but this time around, Britain tanks definitely got the short end of the stick.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry?
Germany got what can largely be described as a "meme vehicle" and nothing else.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;52251486]I'm sorry?
Germany got what can largely be described as a "meme vehicle" and nothing else.[/QUOTE]
"Meme Vehicle"
A fuckton faster Panzer II H, but not premium, has a coax, can't be tracked, doesn't have an open top/back turret, and is only 0.3BR higher.
But yeah, it's a "meme vehicle" xD [sp]And even the Sturmpanzer II from last patch was a good meme vehicle; great fun to play.[/sp]
Germany is barely missing anything for tanks except some Cold War powercreep toys, some gap-filler like the Panther D1, and some unique premiums like the VK3002DB. Maybe some more light tanks too, but most are just gonna have 20mm and lower. And for planes, it's mostly for reference at this point as they have a complete tree with fighters, alternate fighters, bombers, and attackers right down to Era V.
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[sp]when[/sp]
[QUOTE=mastermaul;52251486]I'm sorry?
Germany got what can largely be described as a "meme vehicle" and nothing else.[/QUOTE]
Germany currently has the best selection of vehicles from 7.0 and up and is generally the most "complete" two tech trees when it comes to stuff that actually got used in reality. They don't need any more sticks.
Meanwhile, have you actually tried British era 5?
Haven't played in like 2 years, looking to maybe get in again since MWO committed sudoku with its skill tree, have a few questions first.
1.Are the F8f's still hot garbage?
2.Are the F9F's still hot garbage?
3.Is jet combat still an unbalanced dumpster fire?
4.Is the Sea Fury still underperforming?
5. Did enduring conflict ever see release?
6.What's the state of the meta in RB?
[QUOTE=benzinxrm;52253940]Haven't played in like 2 years, looking to maybe get in again since MWO committed sudoku with its skill tree, have a few questions first.
1.Are the F8f's still hot garbage?
[/QUOTE]
Nah, pretty great, but you gonna struggle to keep up with Spitty Mk24s which are like, the one better fighter.
Aaaalso German Jets. These battles kinda do suck.
[quote]
2.Are the F9F's still hot garbage?
[/quote]
The new swept wing F9F-6 ain't!
[quote]
3.Is jet combat still an unbalanced dumpster fire?
[/quote]
Not reaaaaallly? Dunno. It's a little bit heavy on advantage for Hunter and MiG-17 and everything else is kind of in some sort of quasi-balance.
[quote]
4.Is the Sea Fury still underperforming?
[/quote]
Ask Shibbey
[quote]
5. Did enduring conflict ever see release?
[/quote]
It's currently the primary mode Air simulator battles work in (and basically the only other way of flying air Sim is in sim tank battles). There have been temporary experiments with it in RB but never stuck permanently.[quote]
6.What's the state of the meta in RB?[/quote]
In planes? Kinda the same old. Climb, don't fly heavy bombers, your altitude is your healthbar. In tanks? Point at things and click.
[QUOTE=benzinxrm;52253940]Haven't played in like 2 years, looking to maybe get in again since MWO committed sudoku with its skill tree, have a few questions first.
1.Are the F8f's still hot garbage?[/quote]
Only against Spit 24s
[quote]2.Are the F9F's still hot garbage?[/quote]
They're definitely a step below the Hunter/Sabre/MiG-17, but they're excellent support jets due to their agility. They can out turn whatever out speeds them, and out speed whatever out turns them.
[quote]3.Is jet combat still an unbalanced dumpster fire?[/quote]
Hunter F.1, Sabre F-2, and the MiG-17 are the holy trinity (Hunter is PROBABLY the best of these three but only by a small margin), everything else below them is worse but mostly still capable of getting kills. Skill generally matters more than your aircraft
[quote]4.Is the Sea Fury still underperforming?[/quote]
It's not running at Sea Fury X levels (we have the FB.11, not the X) but it's a great medium altitude plane. Fly between 4k and 6k and outrun everything with a prop by a hilarious margin. Remains the only plane I've played to give me a 9 kill game
[quote]5. Did enduring conflict ever see release?[/quote]
It's the default air simulator battles mode. Occasionally pops up as an event
[quote]6.What's the state of the meta in RB?[/QUOTE]
Go for air superiority unless you have a plane with good ground attack cannons which can clean up the map. Gain altitude to give yourself a safety net (speed is life, altitude is speed banked for later), dive on idiots, play aggressive 'cause it's the most fun way to be and pick stupid fights
Machine guns just got an unholy buff (incl. spaghetti guns) so why not go have some fun with those
Awesome, I'll have to reinstall then.
Ru-251 still best.
[vid]https://my.mixtape.moe/yvfkkg.webm[/vid]
Also
[vid]https://my.mixtape.moe/kpqqnq.webm[/vid]
apparently my HEAT-FS actually penetrated this poor T-92 (as in the whole goddamn shell) and proceeded to richochet INSIDE the tank before hitting the turret ring and exploding. :what:
Okay what the shit, they do that in non-replay x-ray cams too;
[vid]https://my.mixtape.moe/hkhcfm.webm[/vid]
Haven't played in an age, probably going to wait for the update to drop and jump back in.
[QUOTE=Ilwrath;52255999]Ru-251 still best.
Also
[vid]https://my.mixtape.moe/kpqqnq.webm[/vid]
apparently my HEAT-FS actually penetrated this poor T-92 (as in the whole goddamn shell) and proceeded to richochet INSIDE the tank before hitting the turret ring and exploding. :what:[/QUOTE]
Send that to gaijin's youtube team, get free gold
okay so, the best german lineup at 8.0 is Ru 251 and Brummbär
Imagine losing a face-to-face encounter, in a Chieftain, to a Brummbär:
[vid]https://my.mixtape.moe/kgvlui.webm[/vid]
[QUOTE=Ilwrath;52255999]
apparently my HEAT-FS actually penetrated this poor T-92 (as in the whole goddamn shell) and proceeded to richochet INSIDE the tank before hitting the turret ring and exploding. :what:
[/QUOTE]
It's a bug in the replay cams, it doesn't actually happen.
[QUOTE=millan;52256891]It's a bug in the replay cams, it doesn't actually happen.[/QUOTE]
Except it happened in the other video too, and that's not a replay.
[editline]17:32[/editline]
I wasn't aware you could activate Nvidia Ansel in the hangar;
[t]http://i.imgur.com/AhQ1p81.png[/t]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/uKTswHs.png[/t]
[QUOTE=Ilwrath;52257006]Except it happened in the other video too, and that's not a replay.[/QUOTE]
i think he's talking about the little replay cam at the top when you hit someone, not actual replays.
[QUOTE=PsiSoldier;52257587]i think he's talking about the little replay cam at the top when you hit someone, not actual replays.[/QUOTE]
Oh, well that would make more sense :v:
[vid]https://my.mixtape.moe/udevzu.webm[/vid]
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Judging by the last one, I'd say ETA for patch is about a week.
snip got trolled
Churchill Mk I might be fun, if that's a 6-pdr in a sub 3.0 BR we might be on to a winner.
[QUOTE=madmax678;52261996]Churchill Mk I might be fun, if that's a 6-pdr in a sub 3.0 BR we might be on to a winner.[/QUOTE]
2 pounder in turret, 3" howitzer in hull.
[QUOTE=madmax678;52261996]Churchill Mk I might be fun, if that's a 6-pdr in a sub 3.0 BR we might be on to a winner.[/QUOTE]
Given how badly they fucked over the Matilda BR wise, not gonna happen.
[editline]23rd May 2017[/editline]
It still makes me irrationally angry every time I consider the fact that the T-50 is a lower BR than the Matilda.
The howitzer in the hull is useless for every single application except deleting trucks. It only had 4mm pen HE on dev.
If they let it shoot smoke, at least the Churchill I can cloud itself permanently while firing harmless 40mm carrots at the enemy.
And it was only the later 95mm lobbers that got HEAT for UK, afaik. Even though the Scott's HEAT is probably interchangeable with the gun on the Churchill I
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