[QUOTE=Shibbey;50500866]^Example of a wrong person^
German P-47 doesn't get ordnance, it can't bomb, but it's an amazing fighter and you will club Americans with it if you play it properly[/QUOTE]
I really through it did get some bombs, oh well I stand corrected.
But its a p-47, ive straight up never had a problem fighting them as any nation so why is america exempt from that
[QUOTE=archival;50505744]I really through it did get some bombs, oh well I stand corrected.
But its a p-47, ive straight up never had a problem fighting them as any nation so why is america exempt from that[/QUOTE]
Main weakness of the P-47 is that it's vulnerable to being intercepted at low alt before it can get to a height where it's comfortable. Being matched with 109F-4s to protect you is a cool thing
If I make the mistake of flying American and I find myself on a team that's >50% bombers, what can I do to make the most of that and maximize my chances of winning?
[QUOTE=archival;50505744]I really through it did get some bombs, oh well I stand corrected.
But its a p-47, ive straight up never had a problem fighting them as any nation so why is america exempt from that[/QUOTE]
People just suck at flying the P-47. It's an absolute monster if you have an energy advantage.
Man playing high tier props/low end jets is just
"welcome to the hit new game series everyone is talking about, spin the wheel to see [i] How many TU-4's will you be fighting today~[/i]"
[sp] The answer is always "All of them" [/sp]
I just can't stop killing friendly planes...
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqalG_qZL5Q[/media]
It wouldn't even be that bad if they werent for some reason 100x more durable than a b-29, these things just shrug off full strafes of 30mm's from 262's like its nothing.
Oh I just got about 40 shells impact me across the wings from one side to the other? lolnah didnt even scratch me, meanwhile the b-29 is like, someone looked at me better explode.
The only way to kill one of these things is to just ram it going 800km/h from above and even then half the time it wont die.
I'm really getting tired of the random bullshit losses in "air domination". 14 mins in, I've got 16 kills, the enemy team is 99% dead, we're capturing the zone, then out of nowhere "WE SUFFAD A DEFEET" and I'm back in the hanger with another loss.
Seriously, what the hell?
[QUOTE=Lupin;50507816]I'm really getting tired of the random bullshit losses in "air domination". 14 mins in, I've got 16 kills, the enemy team is 99% dead, we're capturing the zone, then out of nowhere "WE SUFFAD A DEFEET" and I'm back in the hanger with another loss.
Seriously, what the hell?[/QUOTE]
Timer runs out while your team has fewer remaining tickets, possibly?
[QUOTE=PsiSoldier;50508900]Timer runs out while your team has fewer remaining tickets, possibly?[/QUOTE]
I guess the timer ran out. From what I've read it doesn't count tickets though. If you run out of time, everyone loses. Wish they would give us 5 more minutes.
Jesus Christ, the bomber spam is worse than it ever was.
It is borderline unplayable now, because everywhere is B-17/B-29/Tu-4 spam going into orbit, good luck.
Fuck this.
[QUOTE=Lupin;50508917]I guess the timer ran out. From what I've read it doesn't count tickets though. If you run out of time, everyone loses. Wish they would give us 5 more minutes.[/QUOTE]
IDK about arcade air battles but in CARB if you have the ticket advantage when the timer runs down you win the match.
There's been quite a few times where my team gets steamrolled, but managed to secure the cap at the start of the game and hold it for a long time regardless, so by the end of the game there's like 2 of us against 10 of them and we [I]should[/I] rightly lose, but end up winning due to the ticket advantage :v:
[QUOTE=Lupin;50507816]I'm really getting tired of the random bullshit losses in "air domination". 14 mins in, I've got 16 kills, the enemy team is 99% dead, we're capturing the zone, then out of nowhere "WE SUFFAD A DEFEET" and I'm back in the hanger with another loss.
Seriously, what the hell?[/QUOTE]
Air Domination was a mistake. It was there to boil down the already simple and short <5 minute Arcade matches into something [B]even more [/B]blindly stupid while also making them take longer.
[QUOTE=BananaMed;50509024]Jesus Christ, the bomber spam is worse than it ever was.
It is borderline unplayable now, because everywhere is B-17/B-29/Tu-4 spam going into orbit, good luck.
Fuck this.[/QUOTE]
Did the B-17's get buffed? I remember them being rp pinatas not too long ago, meaning most people stopped playing them.
wew lad :ok::ok::ok:
I am literally shaking from all the adrenaline. I was basically left 1vs4 at the end of the match.
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[url]https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/318201-update-13062016-server-update/#entry6238147[/url]
Buff to yanks
Is the P-51A running out of ammo first on one side of the wing a bug or an actual historical thing?
[QUOTE=O'Neil;50511417]Is the P-51A running out of ammo first on one side of the wing a bug or an actual historical thing?[/QUOTE]
99% sure it's suppose to be that the two outbound guns run out first, then the inbound - but they modeled it wrong.
I also like that only when Tu-4 spam comes in did they implement this bomber limit. Not during B-17 and B-29 spam of old. :v:
[QUOTE=Doom14;50511493]99% sure it's suppose to be that the two outbound guns run out first, then the inbound - but they modeled it wrong.
I also like that only when Tu-4 spam comes in did they implement this bomber limit. Not during B-17 and B-29 spam of old. :v:[/QUOTE]
Because from what I've read, Tu-4 is stronker-er than puny bombers from the West.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;50512420]Because from what I've read, Tu-4 is stronker-er than puny bombers from the West.[/QUOTE]
Aka the only bomber they cannot fuck with by nerfing it directly because it is what it is, Slavfortress 1. The biggest bomb loads in gross weight and number of the heavy bombers aside from the thing it's copied off of. And it's covered in fucking cannons which they cannot get rid of which can actually do their job in defending the plane from attack.
It is, a bomber that can defend itself and accomplish it's mission reliably. Therefore. Broken. Under Gaijin's wonderful game design logic.
Because bombers are not supposed to win. And any time they start winning, something abruptly changes. See: The base mechanic. Which they know full well makes destroying the enemy airfield nearly impossible, and to a point is a completely impractical goal now, because of the excessive amount of time required by the Bombers in order to do it vs the fighters murdering everyone on one side.
It still could 'technically' happen, which is an utterly loaded and deceptively way of putting it. Bordering on an outright lie.
Which is apparently good enough for the idiots in game design. Just like how even though the matches last for and hour, they've done everything they can to make the damn things be decided in 20 minutes or less. And how bomber gunner AI still 'functions' because they fire their guns but never actually hit anything.
[QUOTE=goon165;50512806]And how bomber gunner AI still 'functions' because they fire their guns but never actually hit anything.[/QUOTE]
While I agree that normal gunner AI is terrible 9/10 times, I think one of the biggest problems with the tu-4 is that unlike other countries gunners who can't hit the broad side of the Earth, the tu-4 gunners are all action movie protagonists and can 360 noscope one shot your plane from 1km away, while the tu-4 is death spinning to the ground (I've had this happen to me 3 times).
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLSmuVK2iHA[/media]
Sure, it's shooting bi-planes, but take any other bomber into that furball and 80% of the time your gunners will miss everything. And even stranger, sometimes (as you will see in the video) the tu4 will kill incoming planes without actually firing a single burst.
Okay everyone needs to stop what they're doing and go play a sunderland or any low tier bomber.
Observe:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/NO2kF9I.png[/img]
MG/FFs are fucking. Worthless. Nothing can kill you.
Do Realistic/Simulator battles have a hard learning curve? I'm getting bored of arcade so I've been thinking to check that part of the game out.
[QUOTE=Sheepaay;50514111]Do Realistic/Simulator battles have a hard learning curve? I'm getting bored of arcade so I've been thinking to check that part of the game out.[/QUOTE]
Not really imo, Just don't turn too hard or you'll find your self in a flatspin
[QUOTE=Sheepaay;50514111]Do Realistic/Simulator battles have a hard learning curve? I'm getting bored of arcade so I've been thinking to check that part of the game out.[/QUOTE]
Depends on if you are playing tanks or planes.
[QUOTE=goon165;50512806]Aka the only bomber they cannot fuck with by nerfing it directly because it is what it is, Slavfortress 1.[/QUOTE]
I mean, it could no longer spawn at 5km so that anything but a Heimatschutzer can actually attack it before it gets its bombs off and disappears into space
Aw yis, finally got a British jet that's worth flying
[t]http://i.imgur.com/NuUsLHF.png[/t]
fank u based wyvern~
[QUOTE=Shibbey;50511122][url]https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/318201-update-13062016-server-update/#entry6238147[/url]
Buff to yanks[/QUOTE]
YES, this is the single biggest complaint I had with the US planes. Maybe I will actually be able to fly them without constantly fighting 1v2+ enemies all the time.
BTW the 4 dollar tier of the e3 humble bundle comes with premium p36, m5 tank and some exclusive decals.
So anyone that has the TU-4 can you explain how well gunner go? I mean I know the guns themselves wreck shit but from what ive heard the AI gunners are just flat out better than anyone else.
Seems the last patch has made my B-29's even worse in that, they flat out don't engage -anything- that isnt flying next to me in a straight line.
Like they dont even track targets that are flying 5 meter from me, they just sit there and do nothing untill about 20 seconds after someone comes near me they finally boot up and decide to work
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