All Points Bulletin: Reloaded V8 - when are they gonna nerf stun guns? - Games

[QUOTE=TextQUAKE;40486932]The game would be better if all weapons were full auto so there would be no macros[/QUOTE] Hell just removing the half second 'jam' for clicking .1 second too fast would do wonders. You still have to click a lot, you just won't get punished for not having a macro to click perfectly for you. [editline]1st May 2013[/editline] People are always gonna macro, but the way APB semi-autos work, they pretty much punish you for not using one.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;40487246]Hell just removing the half second 'jam' for clicking .1 second too fast would do wonders. You still have to click a lot, you just won't get punished for not having a macro to click perfectly for you. [editline]1st May 2013[/editline] People are always gonna macro, but the way APB semi-autos work, they pretty much punish you for not using one.[/QUOTE] I don't experience jamming, a shot just doesn't come out and I have to click again Ah wait no my hacks do this for me I forgot [editline]1st May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=NitronikALT;40487170]I still think they do an excessive amount of damage[/QUOTE] Yeah it makes them far too forgiving since you can miss 90% of one of the shots and still 2 shot

[QUOTE=Campin Carl;40487096]Full auto SNR :v:[/QUOTE] reminds me that we are supposed to get a CJ3 SNR on ARMAS soon

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;40483363]But my scroll wheel is how I change weapons D: [editline]30th April 2013[/editline] If you're fighting a nano, then I wouldn't blame you. They think it being ~exclusive~ is good enough reason to make it OP.[/QUOTE] Everyone and their fucking mother has a nano now. Shit I managed to buy one for 2mil of some dude.

It'd be neat if the Nano went away forever As well as the Scout, CSG and perhaps Whisper In fact I think all of the buyable guns should go away forever

It'd be neat if you went away forever.

To take it away from yet another flame war/drama... anybody else thinking of new thread version's title? My suggestion: [i]Arson, Murder and Desert Scarves[/i] [SUB][SUB][SUB][SUB][SUB][SUB][SUB]totally not an obvious TVTropes referrence[/SUB][/SUB][/SUB][/SUB][/SUB][/SUB][/SUB]

[QUOTE=MartinPL;40488745]Anybody else thinking of new thread version's title? My suggestion: [i]Arson, Murder and Desert Scarves[/i] [SUB][SUB][SUB][SUB][SUB][SUB][SUB]totally not an obvious TVTropes referrence[/SUB][/SUB][/SUB][/SUB][/SUB][/SUB][/SUB][/QUOTE] APB v9 - Bnat's Fat Man Tits Edition [editline]sdafl[/editline] Joke of course. I was gonna originally suggest APB v9 - Let's name the new contact after a deadly drug mix or APB v9 - Colby PMG? More like OPMG LMAO

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;40488740]It'd be neat if you went away forever.[/QUOTE] It'd be neat if you dunked your face in a vat of my boiling liquid shit and had concentrated lemon juice poured in the burn wounds [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Calm down" - PLing))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=TextQUAKE;40488770]It'd be neat if you dunked your face in a vat of my boiling liquid shit and had concentrated lemon juice poured in the burn wounds[/QUOTE] Sounds like someone's mad :3 [editline]dsfljkf[/editline] [QUOTE=TextQUAKE;40488802]You wanna fight me son I've got a 13 inch cock to slap you with and that dick has another slightly smaller dick on it This pattern continues until it gets to the size of an atom, the total mass is about 7 feet long it's really quite inconvenient[/QUOTE] Now you're just trying too hard.

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;40488787]Sounds like someone's mad :3[/QUOTE] You wanna fight me son I've got a 13 inch cock to slap you with and that dick has another slightly smaller dick on it This pattern continues until it gets to the size of an atom, the total mass is about 7 feet long it's really quite inconvenient

All Points Bulliten: Reloaded V9 - The Nano, OP? Well I Never!

[QUOTE=MR-X;40488413]Everyone and their fucking mother has a nano now. Shit I managed to buy one for 2mil of some dude.[/QUOTE] I don't, Nano's are damn expensive unless you're the type that never buys anything, plays constantly, or are a very good designer, bonus points for those who do that with Premium. I don't buy Premium because I can't afford it, I have a combined 2.5 million if that, from my 2 main characters. If I could get a Nano, I would, but I can't, it's out of my reach and with prices now hitting 4 million, it looks like it always will be. The only reason I see Nano's so often is because I'm a high level Gold, and I get to play with all the pro Golds that fall into one or more of the categories I listed, I fight Nano's more often than I fight STAR's. The Nano is exclusive to the rich high-gold players I mentioned, and to the Devs of course. They don't feel the need to nerf it because because it's exclusive. I say it's overpowered because if you compare a Nano to an S-AS PDW, or an N-FA 9, it easily outdoes them. There's no good reason to choose an S-AS or N-FA over a Nano. It does their job, but much better. Yes the TTK is longer, but it also has no recoil, shoots slower (making it even easier to control), and has a much tighter spread. Nano spread on the move is tighter than S-AS spread crouched and aiming. Not to mention the Nano has better sustained accuracy than both weapons. Here are some accuracy tables I did awhile ago, out of curiosity. The Nano in worst to best compared to the S-AS in worst to best. You can see that the Nano's often has an accuracy [I]and[/I] mobility advantage, compared to the F2P S-AS. Also note that the Nano running while aimed is actually [I]more[/I] accurate than it is while standing and free-aiming. The S-AS is slightly less accuracy while doing the same. [U]Nano:[/U] 96.00 - Airborne 55.50 - Run + Sustained 44.40 - Max Sustained 36.00 - Sprinting 30.00 - Running 28.80 - Walking [B]24.00 - Base[/B] 23.04 - Walk + Aim 19.20 - Crouched 19.20 - Aimed 15.36 - Crouch + Aim [U]S-AS:[/U] 148.0 - Airborne 96.68 - Run + Sustained 74.37 - Max Sustained 55.50 - Sprinting 48.10 - Running 44.40 - Walking 37.74 - Walk + Aim [B]37.00 - Base[/B] 29.60 - Crouched 31.45 - Aimed 25.16 - Crouch + Aim

Exclusive guns are stupid anyways. Nano shouldn't be compared to S-AS anyways, it should be compared to FBW.

Anyone else feel like they should add some delay between crouching and standing?

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;40489045]Anyone else feel like they should add some delay between crouching and standing?[/QUOTE] Nerfing weapons that benefit from crouching would be a braindead design decision since all of the weapons that do are currently not very good EDIT: Except for N-TEC

[QUOTE=TextQUAKE;40489039]Exclusive guns are stupid anyways. Nano shouldn't be compared to S-AS anyways, it should be compared to FBW.[/QUOTE] It's a secondary Machine Pistol, it should be compared to secondary Marine Pistols. And no, I'm not bringing your macros into this right now.

[QUOTE=TextQUAKE;40489059]Nerfing weapons that benefit from crouching would be a braindead design decision since all of the weapons that do are currently not very good EDIT: Except for N-TEC[/QUOTE] I didn't say nerfing the weapons. I said adding a delay between crouching and standing so you can't just switch between them instantly/spam it.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;40489066]It's a secondary Machine Pistol, it should be compared to secondary Marine Pistols. And no, I'm not bringing your macros into this right now.[/QUOTE] FBW is incredibly easy to max RoF Also, it could look like a massive dildo that fires laser beams and it'd still be most similar to the FBW.

[QUOTE=TextQUAKE;40489093]FBW is incredibly easy to max RoF Also, it could look like a massive dildo that fires laser beams and it'd still be most similar to the FBW.[/QUOTE] It sounds like a Saints Row 4 weapon idea.

[QUOTE=TextQUAKE;40489093]FBW is incredibly easy to max RoF Also, it could look like a massive dildo that fires laser beams and it'd still be most similar to the FBW.[/QUOTE] Fine, I'll do an FBW table just for you tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;40489174]Fine, I'll do an FBW table just for you tomorrow.[/QUOTE] You're wasting your time, people can just open APBDB with separate tabs. The Nano has slightly worse base accuracy than the FBW but faster recovery. Kill time is slower by .05s on the Nano. Damage falloff is the same.

For the next thread I wish you guys just stopped fucking arguing for at least a single page. This is getting annoying.

[QUOTE=TextQUAKE;40489235]You're wasting your time, people can just open APBDB with separate tabs. The Nano has slightly worse base accuracy than the FBW but faster recovery. Kill time is slower by .05s on the Nano. Damage falloff is the same.[/QUOTE] Faster recovery AND way less per-shot bloom, which really is the problem with the nano. You shouldn't be able to get away with continuously sustained fire without any accuracy loss [QUOTE=MartinPL;40489314]For the next thread I wish you guys just stopped fucking arguing for at least a single page. This is getting annoying.[/QUOTE] this is SRS BUSINESS

[QUOTE=MartinPL;40489314]For the next thread I wish you guys just stopped fucking arguing for at least a single page. This is getting annoying.[/QUOTE] But it's all we know how to do anymore. [editline]1st May 2013[/editline] Besides have you played this game? Arguing goes hand-in-face with it.

[QUOTE=NitronikALT;40489346]Faster recovery AND way less per-shot bloom, which really is the problem with the nano. You shouldn't be able to get away with continuously sustained fire without any accuracy loss [/QUOTE] I fail to see why. Worse TTK is punishment enough for inaccuracy in APB.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;40489356]Besides have you played this game? Arguing goes hand-in-face with it.[/QUOTE] If I didn't, I wouldn't even bother posting in here. Arguing in APB:R is a must though, that's true. Honestly, I can list about 10 matches when neither side was complaining/arguing/flaming about the other.

[QUOTE=TextQUAKE;40489367]I fail to see why. Worse TTK is punishment enough for inaccuracy in APB.[/QUOTE] While it is piss easy to max-ROF the FBW (I do it myself), you have to take into account the accuracy loss, which can screw up your TTK. It's not about the TTK itself, but how reliable the TTK is. A weapon with a 0.1s TTK that never kills in that time frame is not better than a weapon capable of killing consistently in, say, 0.5s

[QUOTE=NitronikALT;40489391]While it is piss easy to max-ROF the FBW (I do it myself), you have to take into account the accuracy loss, which can screw up your TTK. It's not about the TTK itself, but how reliable the TTK is. A weapon with a 0.1s TTK that never kills in that time frame is not better than a weapon capable of killing consistently in, say, 0.5s[/QUOTE] I just fire center mass and accuracy is never an issue on the FBW.

[QUOTE=TextQUAKE;40489423]I just fire center mass and accuracy is never an issue on the FBW.[/QUOTE] Maybe because you hack like a faggot???? Just a thought