[QUOTE=Furnost;51790977]there is 0 reason to pick mercy as long as ana is the best single target healer[/QUOTE]
Stop sucking as Mercy
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51793792]Stop sucking as Mercy[/QUOTE]
What is the purpose of Mercy when Ana heals significantly more, can instantly switch into dealing damage, can prevent enemy healing and deal damage, get a sudden 210~ burst healing when it's needed, has a sleep dart, AND has an ult that doesn't rely on you not doing your job?
I mean, sure, rezzing your teammates is good, but you're much better off not letting your teammates die in the first place while giving someone 50% damage resist and 50% damage boost. Other than the rez, she really has nothing going for her.
There ARE players that have played better Mercies than the average Ana at their rank, but they're few and far between, and they usually know when Mercy won't work and swap into Ana anyways. Most of them just lose against the enemy team because they're playing the more capable healer.
[QUOTE=RandomGamer342;51793874]What is the purpose of Mercy when Ana heals significantly more, can instantly switch into dealing damage, can prevent enemy healing and deal damage, get a sudden 210~ burst healing when it's needed, has a sleep dart, AND has an ult that doesn't rely on you not doing your job?
I mean, sure, rezzing your teammates is good, but you're much better off not letting your teammates die in the first place while giving someone 50% damage resist and 50% damage boost. Other than the rez, she really has nothing going for her.
There ARE players that have played better Mercies than the average Ana at their rank, but they're few and far between, and they usually know when Mercy won't work and swap into Ana anyways. Most of them just lose against the enemy team because they're playing the more capable healer.[/QUOTE]
There are situations where no amount of healing can save your team, such as zarya & hanzo ult combo with no Zen. Having your team all die and get res'd with full HP can totally turn a fight around. Though I do agree that Ana is more useful the rest of the time.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51793792]Stop sucking as Mercy[/QUOTE]
i already wrote a reddit tier long ass post the last time you said mercy didnt suck and i dont feel like doing that again
after 4 months of playing this game i finally got a play of the game
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3AGqSLnRhg[/media]
there are many like it but this one is mine
[QUOTE=RandomGamer342;51793874]What is the purpose of Mercy when Ana heals significantly more, can instantly switch into dealing damage, can prevent enemy healing and deal damage, get a sudden 210~ burst healing when it's needed, has a sleep dart, AND has an ult that doesn't rely on you not doing your job?
I mean, sure, rezzing your teammates is good, but you're much better off not letting your teammates die in the first place while giving someone 50% damage resist and 50% damage boost. Other than the rez, she really has nothing going for her.
There ARE players that have played better Mercies than the average Ana at their rank, but they're few and far between, and they usually know when Mercy won't work and swap into Ana anyways. Most of them just lose against the enemy team because they're playing the more capable healer.[/QUOTE]
Because Mercy is fun goddammit, sure she's not the most viable when stacked up against Ana but if you base your hero selection on who's the most viable instead of who you have fun with you're going to start hating the game
Believe me, I'm not trying to hand wave what's wrong with Mercy and say she's fine. She does need something over Ana, but christ on a bike, folks, we're not all playing esports level Overwatch here
-snip la-
[QUOTE=RandomGamer342;51793874]What is the purpose of Mercy when Ana heals significantly more, can instantly switch into dealing damage, can prevent enemy healing and deal damage, get a sudden 210~ burst healing when it's needed, has a sleep dart, AND has an ult that doesn't rely on you not doing your job?
I mean, sure, rezzing your teammates is good, but you're much better off not letting your teammates die in the first place while giving someone 50% damage resist and 50% damage boost. Other than the rez, she really has nothing going for her.
There ARE players that have played better Mercies than the average Ana at their rank, but they're few and far between, and they usually know when Mercy won't work and swap into Ana anyways. Most of them just lose against the enemy team because they're playing the more capable healer.[/QUOTE]
You don't know how many people die during my reload as Ana, also this all assumes you have perfect aim as Ana, which I doubt you do.
Not saying Mercy is perfect but there are plenty of situations where I'd rather have a Mercy over Ana.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;51793991]after 4 months of playing this game i finally got a play of the game
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3AGqSLnRhg[/media]
there are many like it but this one is mine[/QUOTE]
did it seriously take you that long?
i recall getting a potg on my first match on the free weekend
[QUOTE=Fox Powers;51794241]did it seriously take you that long?
i recall getting a potg on my first match on the free weekend[/QUOTE]
They could be an Ana main.
[QUOTE=Zadrave;51794209]You don't know how many people die during my reload as Ana, also this all assumes you have perfect aim as Ana, which I doubt you do.
Not saying Mercy is perfect but there are plenty of situations where I'd rather have a Mercy over Ana.[/QUOTE]
people continue to bring up that ana is some """skill""" based healer when in reality her shots all have huge ass hitboxes that are incredibly easy to hit on teammates
[QUOTE=doodlesundae;51794319]people continue to bring up that ana is some """skill""" based healer when in reality her shots all have huge ass hitboxes that are incredibly easy to hit on teammates[/QUOTE]
You can't tell me you never miss as Ana. What I am trying to say is that even a single miss means you're not healing, and that second of not healing is something Mercy could have done. Simple as that.
mercy is a good off healer despite her entire kit is based around healing
PTR is now up.
[QUOTE=Zadrave;51794209]You don't know how many people die during my reload as Ana, also this all assumes you have perfect aim as Ana, which I doubt you do.
Not saying Mercy is perfect but there are plenty of situations where I'd rather have a Mercy over Ana.[/QUOTE]
I've played both, and honestly I prefer Ana.
I wish I didn't because Mercy is basically a mage, and I love mages. But Ana outheals her and as long as your team comp consists of tanks and soldier like it almost always does, it's not that hard to hit things.
I think the simplest way to make Mercy viable again is to basically up her stats so that she outheals Ana (and everyone else), make her flight ability faster so it's harder to kill her mid flight, and up her sidearm damage just enough so she doesn't compete with side healers on damage but she can defend herself some amount.
Her entire deal is that she's just a healer and nothing else, so make her the best healer or she sucks.
He damage is perfectly fine, honestly; Plink a few headshots and your target is toast.
What they could do is slightly increase the healing-per-second of her beam, allow it to heal more damage per second the longer you keep the beam on someone ( Making her the primo supremo tank healer over ana ), and replace her damage boost with her plinker gun so she doesn't need to switch weapons.
[QUOTE=Fox Powers;51794241]did it seriously take you that long?
i recall getting a potg on my first match on the free weekend[/QUOTE]
don't bully
First thing I noticed immediately on the PTR.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/Ts1zXBl.jpg[/t]
I wouldn't mind an Overheal like in TF2. Each Healer will have their own thing. Mercy has Overheal. Ana has fast far away healing. Lucio has speed and AOE healing. And Zen can heal and do damage.
Ok so apparently the server browser is in arcade. Was expecting it to be it's own thing on the main menu.
i like how they put movement abilities drop flag and capping flag requires your own flag as modifiers. they obviously know what people want for CTF/what would improve it drastically, why dont they just make it so? youd have to be an idiot to not realize all of that is what CTF just needs
Damn, well... dreams about Jeff wrestling with Reinhardt now became broken. :v:
[t]https://pp.vk.me/c639716/v639716309/80be/3v3lPyrAtPo.jpg[/t]
[URL="https://twitter.com/PlayOverwatch/status/829178306176000000"]Link to this twit btw[/URL]
Wow some of these custom games are fucking fun as hell.
[QUOTE=Zadrave;51794351]You can't tell me you never miss as Ana. What I am trying to say is that even a single miss means you're not healing, and that second of not healing is something Mercy could have done. Simple as that.[/QUOTE]
If you hit 80% of yours shots you'll still heal more over-time compared to Mercy, not counting the healing grenade, counting reloads.
Counting the grenade hitting one teammate, you'll heal more than Mercy over time if you hit 2/3 of your shots, only one out of SIX being with the grenade boost. Alternatively, 1/2 of your shots, if you miss eight shots out of ten on non-boosted teammates, and all six with the grenade's effect.
The above isn't unrealistic, though i can see it being difficult or impractical in some situations. This comparison also discounts all the different utility advantages Ana has over Mercy.
Honestly, i don't want to stop people from having fun or say Mercy is useless, but if you're playing competitive, you're almost certainly losing if you can't consistently pull off rezzes to counter wombo-combos. That's her only advantage over Ana because of how ludicrous Ana is, and because Ana is Ana's only counter
[QUOTE=Scot;51793964]There are situations where no amount of healing can save your team, such as zarya & hanzo ult combo with no Zen. Having your team all die and get res'd with full HP can totally turn a fight around. Though I do agree that Ana is more useful the rest of the time.[/QUOTE]
Uh, isn't this just an argument for playing zen, not an argument for playing mercy?
[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;51794599]Uh, isn't this just an argument for playing zen, not an argument for playing mercy?[/QUOTE]
Turns out you can still get one shot through Zennys ult.
Literally no other hero can save you from Zarya combos with dragonstrike
[QUOTE=Furnost;51794484]i like how they put movement abilities drop flag and capping flag requires your own flag as modifiers. they obviously know what people want for CTF/what would improve it drastically, why dont they just make it so? youd have to be an idiot to not realize all of that is what CTF just needs[/QUOTE]
I would guess they will look at CTF custom games ( as Jeff said in the video update ) and modify their version according to what's more popular or more balanced based on winrates.
[editline]8th February 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=redBadger;51794660]Literally no other hero can save you from Zarya combos with dragonstrike[/QUOTE]
Ana's sleep dart perhaps? Rein's charge? Zenyatta's ult?
[QUOTE=Robotboy655;51794679]I would guess they will look at CTF custom games ( as Jeff said in the video update ) and modify their version according to what's more popular or more balanced based on winrates.
[editline]8th February 2017[/editline]
Ana's sleep dart perhaps? Rein's charge? Zenyatta's ult?[/QUOTE]
I assumed he was talking about Zenyatta, but if he wasn't, then a mercy standing five feet away, or a DVA shield matrix would do the trick as well.
[QUOTE=Robotboy655;51794679]I would guess they will look at CTF custom games ( as Jeff said in the video update ) and modify their version according to what's more popular or more balanced based on winrates.
[editline]8th February 2017[/editline]
Ana's sleep dart perhaps? Rein's charge? Zenyatta's ult?[/QUOTE]
I was referring the Zen. He's the only one who can. Once their combo has been deployed, you're fucked. Ana and rein won't save you
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