Overwatch - It's Actually a Trick To Make Everyone Play HotS, also BUY
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Well, within 24 hours of Season 5 I got masters again :D
[QUOTE=Zadrave;52302799]Because teams are expected to hide behind a barrier 24/7 just so they can get team killed by half the ults in the game[/QUOTE]
literally every other hero in the game forces people to hind behind a protective barrier when on a capture point
if you can find me a video of a roadhog tormenting people on a capture point then i will tell you with 95% accuracy what the problem is
[QUOTE=Zadrave;52302810]So I need 3-4 tanks to counter 1 tank
Got it[/QUOTE]
You just need 1, sometimes 2 if you don't think your current tank is good enough or you need an extra tank because of their or your team comp.
People say you can Matrix the hook but that hook ALWAYS goes through my Matrix and hooks me. So I don't know if its just by luck when it works or not.
You can argue "hide behind a barrier lol" for any hero, and that's the issue
It's not a Roadhog counter, it's just general game sense. That's almost as bad as saying baiting the hook.
That's not a solution.
[QUOTE=Zadrave;52302810]So I need 3-4 tanks to counter 1 tank
Got it[/QUOTE]
All you need is either a D.Va or Zarya. If you don't have a Rein then you're probably running dive with a Winston in which case use the Winston bubbles like always and either isolate the Hog from their team or isolate your dive target from their Hog.
[QUOTE=Zadrave;52302820]You can argue "hide behind a barrier lol" for any hero, and that's the issue
It's not a Roadhog counter, it's just general game sense. That's almost as bad as saying baiting the hook.
That's not a solution.[/QUOTE]
Yeah guess what you need gamesense to counter Roadhog.
Is an enemy hero a threat? COUNTER HIM BY PICKING AROUND HIM.
[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;52302819]People say you can Matrix the hook but that hook ALWAYS goes through my Matrix and hooks me. So I don't know if its just by luck when it works or not.[/QUOTE]
You can matrix the shotgun blast by putting your defense matrix over the hero being hooked.
You shouldn't need more than one hero to counter another hero. And from my experience, D.Va gets fucked over by Roadhog whenever I play Roadhog. She just gets nuked.
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You can matrix the shotgun blast by putting your defense matrix over the hero being hooked.[/QUOTE]
Is that what people mean? I really thought they meant that the Matrix stops the hook right in it's track.
[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;52302819]People say you can Matrix the hook but that hook ALWAYS goes through my Matrix and hooks me. So I don't know if its just by luck when it works or not.[/QUOTE]
You can't matrix the hook itself, what you can do is put your matrix over the hooked teammate, to protect them from the follow-up shot, effectively canceling Hog's combo.
Most of the time all you need is a Zarya with game sense worth a damn imo
-broke my merge snip-
[QUOTE=WhySoSeriouz;52302835]Most of the time all you need is a Zarya with game sense worth a damn imo[/QUOTE]
You'd need to be really stupid to not kill the Zarya with the hook/gun combo seeing how her barrier doesn't last long at all.
[QUOTE=Zadrave;52302826]You shouldn't need more than one hero to counter another hero.[/QUOTE]
May I remind you of what I just said
[quote][B]You just need 1, sometimes 2[/B] if you don't think your current tank is good enough or you need an extra tank because of their or your team comp.[/quote]
May I also remind you that picking 1 hero can counter on average 2-3 heros so it's not like you're picking reinhart only to deal with roadhog.
May I also remind you that in 99% of all situations you're going to need to use teamwork to take down any tank in 99% of situations.
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99% of 99% is 98.01% btw
[QUOTE=Zadrave;52302840]You'd need to be really stupid to not kill the Zarya with the hook/gun combo seeing how her barrier doesn't last long at all.[/QUOTE]
I meant putting a bubble right before someone eats scrap in the face. The way you worded that makes me think you're talking about a 1v1 situation because why would hog go for her first :s:
(I mean there's definitely times where Zarya can be combo'd, but most of the time she'd be staying out of range or generally just actively trying to avoid the hook too so :s: )
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((and there's still the issue of whether or not she's the only tank in the team, which would be pretty odd if that's the case))
i'm just wondering how many people in favor of the hog nerfs actually understand why it's overdone? do you all just play hog once, catch some guy running around out in the open, hook combo him to death, and immediately call hog op? or better yet, have it happen to you, therefor it's op?
because things like this,
[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;52302830]Is that what people mean? I really thought they meant that the Matrix stops the hook right in it's track.[/QUOTE]
where a person who doesn't understand the mechanics behind an ability or a counter is weighing their opinion on the matter, tells me you guys either don't understand how the game works, or you're at too low of a skill level to understand in the first place?
[QUOTE=Zadrave;52302840]You'd need to be really stupid to not kill the Zarya with the hook/gun combo seeing how her barrier doesn't last long at all.[/QUOTE]
But she can pop her barrier and completely block him from hitting his hook on you or a teammate??? Unless you're suggesting that the zarya is so bad that she can't press one button before the hook hits. I don't think old hog is without his flaws but you're really stretching for this "hog has no counter" narrative.
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;52302929]tells me you guys either don't understand how the game works, or you're at too low of a skill level to understand in the first place?[/QUOTE]
Wow harsh much? It was just a simple question because people make it sound like a defensive matrix stops the hook it's self?
But I guess it's just easier to say someone is low rank just because they disagree with you on a nerf or ask a simple question.
I'm ready to condone these moronic, senseless, overdone and fan service-ish nerfs towards Roadhogs only because they are buffing Reaper at the same time, honestly
[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;52302989]Wow harsh much? It was just a simple question because people make it sound like a defensive matrix stops the hook it's self?
But I guess it's just easier to say someone is low rank just because they disagree with you on a nerf or ask a simple question.[/QUOTE]
considering the two people here that are most in favor of the hog nerfs are low ranked, yea i'm pretty good at guessing.
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like i bet you didn't even know that the roadhog nerf indirectly buffs dva.
damage per pellet went from 9 -> 6
headshot damage went from 18 -> 12
take into account armor, and headshot damage went from 13 down to 7.
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but sure, it's easier to get offended by being called out on not understanding basic game mechanics while trying to talk about balance.
[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;52302989]But I guess it's just easier to say someone is low rank just because they disagree with you on a nerf or ask a simple question.[/QUOTE]
Look I don't want to be rude but
[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;52300183]If you think it's ok for Roadhog to 1-hit kill combo 17 heroes without even trying you are the insane one.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;52300082]I love how Roadhog mains always seem to forget that they are able to one-hit kill combo 17 heroes out of 24. How is that balanced in anyway.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;52297299]I said one negative thing about Roadhog on Reddit and I have been getting none stop PMs for the last 2 hours from Roadhog mains.
Why is "Snipers can 1-shot kill people with a headshot. Why can't Roadhog have a 1-hit kill??" a common argument.[/QUOTE]
while a majority of your posts have been neutral at best, some of your posts are pretty rude as well.
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Also I am not without sin, my "may I" most came off pretty passive aggressive when in my head it looked like I was goofing around.
I will apologize for any of my rude posts. Sorry.
Things getting heated on top of me.not having a really good day might have factored into some.of those.
I'll just end this all right now. Sorry again.
I had a dream about Doomfist. His build went something like this:
Left click: Jab
Right click: double uppercut for increased damage and booping enemies in 45° angle
Shift: Winston-like leap
Ult: Terrifying roar that stuns people and makes them run away from you. Also, if you leap next to a terrified enemy, they curl up in a fetal position, turning your basic attack into curb stomp for critical hits
Someone was whining about curb stomp being overpowered and I answered (as Doomfist dev) that it was all about being creative and flavorful. There was some talk about another flavorful skill of Widowmaker poisoning the enemy's teapot in their spawn.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/Lg7XTTb.jpg[/t]
I made this
Just Junkrat things: getting a double environmental kill by mashing right click while respawning
[QUOTE=Totenkreuz;52302174]Because Overwatch is a 1v1 game.[/QUOTE]
Tries to 1v1 a 600hp character whose sole purpose is to delete squishy targets such as flankers or supporst. Obviously gets killed. "It's unfair!11"
[QUOTE=Totenkreuz;52302174]Stop bronzeposting.[/QUOTE]
Funny thing but I've seen people with bronze rank who knew how to not get constantly removed by Hog.
[QUOTE=Everything;52303332]Just Junkrat things: getting a double environmental kill by mashing right click while respawning[/QUOTE]
Or forgetting about that trap you left in the far corner of the map and suddenly getting a kill.
Whether the changes to Roadhog make him weaker or more flexible, they're pretty dumb from a design/character-fantasy standpoint. He's supposed to be a hulking monster of a man with slow, yet powerful attacks, but now his makeshift toaster-shotgun shoots like a freaking revolver and one-shots people, that it's almost the size of, less. You'd almost expect them to change the weapon model, if these changes go to live.
Placed Silver.
Lost almost 1000SR in about three seasons. This is insane.
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