Also I originally meant the cosmetics would be it's own DLC, I'd still rather pay for that than chance to get one t-shirt, but whatever.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;52650608]didn't tf2 have free updates for like, 3-4 years
i dunno man i somehow doubt that PUBG is really struggling for money considering it's sold millions, and is the top twitch streamed game at points
[editline]5th September 2017[/editline]
like, i think i'd rather the game didn't push gambling and also push said gambling before it even came out of early access[/QUOTE]
TF2 only had about a fifth of PUBG's current playercount at its most popular time. Not to mention it had dedicated servers which means that it didn't rely entirely on the developers to keep the servers running. And it did go free to play with the same kind of cosmetic microtransactions after just 4 years so there's also that.
[editline]5th September 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;52650625]i'm not going to go all out and say "FUCK COSMETICS!!!!" because i think there's an avenue of reasonability for it, but putting a gambling system in your game that isn't even out of early access isn't even in the same country as that avenue of reasonability[/QUOTE]
A gambling system that's already been taken out of the game.
[editline]5th September 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;52650627]Also I originally meant the cosmetics would be it's own DLC, I'd still rather pay for that than chance to get one t-shirt, but whatever.[/QUOTE]
Well then that'll have to be where we can't agree because to me that sounds completely insane. I'd rather be able to play the whole game and be able to see and experience all of its gameplay content without having to pay anything outside of the initial price and be able to completely ignore the part that includes paying more money than being forced to pay extra just to keep playing.
The worst part is the confirmation that they are removing the keyless boxes on release. Like, fuck you dudes.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;52650656]10 million sales of a 30 dollar game on a digital storefront by an indie developer
the cashflow couldn't be any more pure, they're in the black for a couple of years at least man
free updates and continued popularity would keep the people buying more copies[/QUOTE]
I'd hardly call Bluehole an indie developer. They made Tera, which was a pretty damn big and mainstream MMORPG. They're not exactly a small developer.
[QUOTE=simkas;52650629]
Well then that'll have to be where we can't agree because to me that sounds completely insane. I'd rather be able to play the whole game and be able to see and experience all of its gameplay content without having to pay anything outside of the initial price and be able to completely ignore the part that includes paying more money than being forced to pay extra just to keep playing.[/QUOTE]
how is paying for packs of cosmetics insane? isn't that how cosmetics used to be handled
like, call me crazy but the idea of buying a digital box in the vague hope it'll contain the item of clothing i want actually sounds fucking insane, and moreover, it's consumer exploiting gambling
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;52650678]how is paying for packs of cosmetics insane? isn't that how cosmetics used to be handled
like, call me crazy but the idea of buying a digital box in the vague hope it'll contain the item of clothing i want actually sounds fucking insane, and moreover, it's consumer exploiting gambling[/QUOTE]
Oh I wasn't talking about that part. I would much rather prefer to be able to just buy cosmetics that I want myself but that doesn't seem to be the trend right now. Besides, we don't know that there won't be an option for that in the finished game. All they've said is that the boxes will remain and won't be free, they haven't said that there won't be any other way to get cosmetics.
[QUOTE=simkas;52650687]Oh I wasn't talking about that part. I would much rather prefer to be able to just buy cosmetics that I want myself but that doesn't seem to be the trend right now. Besides, we don't know that there won't be an option for that in the finished game. All they've said is that the boxes will remain and won't be free, they haven't said that there won't be any other way to get cosmetics.[/QUOTE]
But that was exactly what I originally meant and I said that in the post you were replying to. You were the one who figured out I'd rather have actual content DLC :v:
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;52650711]But that was exactly what I originally meant and I said that in the post you were replying to. You were the one who figured out I'd rather have actual content DLC :v:[/QUOTE]
But you specifically said you'd rather pay for a pack of "actual fucking content". To me, that means actual gameplay content, not some cosmetics.
I'd love for more games to go down the Titanfall 2 route for cosmetics. There's loads in the game, you spend in game credits to access some of them early, otherwise you complete challenges. And as a side revenue stream, Respawn sell "premium" skins that offer no game play advantage.
PUBG already has the in game currency part. And the "kill x with y" challenges from TF|2 don't really fit. So I think it'd be a viable system.
[QUOTE=simkas;52650729]But you specifically said you'd rather pay for a pack of "actual fucking content". To me, that means actual gameplay content, not some cosmetics.[/QUOTE]
Bad wording on my part then, sorry about that. I meant that as in that big pack of cosmetics is something worthwhile to pay for while a chance to maybe get one of the items you want is not.
Don't you just love it when you struggle to make top 10 by playing squads seriously...
...but then you queue SOLO squad FPP to farm some AFK kills and then take 2nd place despite prioritizing more kills over surviving?
Warning: Loud.
[url]https://clips.twitch.tv/CredulousPoorBeaverTheTarFu[/url]
How does he stay sane with all these stream snipers?
[QUOTE=Peon Greenjoy;52651436]Warning: Loud.
[url]https://clips.twitch.tv/CredulousPoorBeaverTheTarFu[/url]
How does he stay sane with all these stream snipers?[/QUOTE]
It's getting him money and views. Forsen is like the worst case of stream sniping I saw to date which makes me thing he's fishing for it.
Forsen is absolutely relishing in the stream snipers. Otherwise he would have muted All-Chat and blacked out the minimap and server info at the bottom.
[QUOTE=Cold Finger;52651651]Forsen is absolutely relishing in the stream snipers. Otherwise he would have muted All-Chat and blacked out the minimap and server info at the bottom.[/QUOTE]
And/or just delayed his stream by a few minutes.
[QUOTE=simkas;52650596]So you'd rather have actual GAMEPLAY content be locked behind paid dlc and have it completely split the community instead of having completely optional and totally not gameplay affecting cosmetic content being paid? I'm sorry but you're gonna to explain how that makes any goddamn sense at all.[/QUOTE]
the sales from 10 million copies sold can continue to support game development for a long time. don't believe devs when they insist they HAVE to sell microtransaction DLC, they're more often that not lying.
[editline]6th September 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=simkas;52650687]Oh I wasn't talking about that part. I would much rather prefer to be able to just buy cosmetics that I want myself but that doesn't seem to be the trend right now. [/QUOTE]
this is the problem, it needs to be the trend. denying that it is a problem and insisting devs should be okay to add greedy microtransactions in does not help. we need devs to know that if they're going to sell us cosmetic content, it needs to be a straight sale and not vague gambling bullshit.
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;52651456]It's getting him money and views. Forsen is like the worst case of stream sniping I saw to date which makes me thing he's fishing for it.[/QUOTE]
Money can't buy you happiness :smug:
[QUOTE=1/4 Life;52652091]And/or just delayed his stream by a few minutes.[/QUOTE]
That kills chat interaction though. (Although I don't know if Forsen reads his chat ever)
I have a degree in theoretical dacia physics. One day we will understand the inner workings of the vehicles in pubg
[video]https://youtu.be/aBuxuuGJf_0[/video]
okay den
[media]https://twitter.com/PUBATTLEGROUNDS/status/905309405951823872[/media]
It's happening! It's weird that it's just Duos (Not Solo or Squad)
[QUOTE=Exploderguy;52652820][media]https://twitter.com/PUBATTLEGROUNDS/status/905309405951823872[/media]
It's happening! It's weird that it's just Duos (Not Solo or Squad)[/QUOTE]
this is the moment i've been waiting for my whole life. bit bummed out because i only play solo but my brother plays duo and squad so he'll enjoy this.
[editline]6th September 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;52652361]I have a degree in theoretical dacia physics. One day we will understand the inner workings of the vehicles in pubg[/QUOTE]
to add to this, heres some research:
- don't crash a buggy into any low object with space between it and the floor. a wheel will get caught and the buggy will blow up and kill you.
- don't drive a dacia into the little hangars on the airstrip, there's some invisible spherical object about a third of the way across from the left at the entrance which will eat your wheel and blow you up and kill you.
- the bike is the best vehicle because you can do sweet jumps in the last playzones near the mansion or east of george. watch out for trees because the branches have hit boxes and will flip you and kill you.
- you can drive a uaz on any terrain, even down a sheer cliff. as long as you go slow.
- the uaz is also the only vehicle that can take off at 30ks from 0. if you boost as you take off or hold the hand brake while you are healing, you can get this weird boost.
[editline]6th September 2017[/editline]
and also the bike is great because you can drive into shit at 150ks and it just stops and spins you without damaging you (which usually means the bike does a wheelie on its front wheel and throws you off)
[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;52652361]I have a degree in theoretical dacia physics. One day we will understand the inner workings of the vehicles in pubg[/QUOTE]
The very moment I find a Dacia, I end up flipping it upside down somewhere and dying.
I think this game's due some kinda content update. A new non crate gun and/or vehicle would be nice.
[QUOTE=Totenkreuz;52653411]I think this game's due some kinda content update. A new non crate gun and/or vehicle would be nice.[/QUOTE]
They're working on a new map for next month's update iirc
[QUOTE=SoUl_ReApEr2;52649306]My 970 gets to like 80°c on most recent games, it's worrying sometimes[/QUOTE]
My 1070 can push to about 80, but [I]only[/I] with PUBG. This game is a fucking hog.
[QUOTE=Exploderguy;52653424]They're working on a new map for next month's update iirc[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure the new map is slated for around the time of the full release. Next big thing coming to the game is vaulting/climbing.
[QUOTE=Totenkreuz;52653411]I think this game's due some kinda content update. A new non crate gun and/or vehicle would be nice.[/QUOTE]
One the developers stated they're removing the Tommy gun from crates so it can be found in houses instead.
But the trade off is a smaller mag size.
[QUOTE=kestner;52653933]One the developers stated they're removing the Tommy gun from crates so it can be found in houses instead.[/QUOTE]
Good, other than the AWM (and M24 to a lesser extent) none of the crate weapons make enough of a difference to go get them.
I think it's time for a new batch of firearms, the Revolver and the Crossbow are outright useless and need a makeover.
[QUOTE=sh4d0w;52654006]Good, other than the AWM (and M24 to a lesser extent) none of the crate weapons make enough of a difference to go get them.
I think it's time for a new batch of firearms, the Revolver and the Crossbow are outright useless and need a makeover.[/QUOTE]
The MK14 and Groza both do.
The M249 is literally the best rifle in the game too.
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