Mass Effect Megathread: "I'm sorry, my face is tired from dealing with everything." - Games

Nothing to do with effort and everything to do with only being given 22 months to do a complete SP and MP package.

[QUOTE=Hatley;52170465]I just love how Shepard gets blown up immediately after Benjamin Willard and Miranda talk about not letting Shepard die.[/QUOTE] I assumed that was after the fact, when they got Shep's body and was starting up Project Lazarus. Seeing as that's the only time when "not losing Shepard" was in Miranda's hands.

i think my biggest problem with ME2 was how many characters you fostered relationships with in the first game that were all like, "OMG YOU'RE WORKING FOR CERBERUS HOW COULD YOU WORK WITH TERRORISTS NO I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE WORKING TOWARDS A BIGGER GOAL YOU BETRAYED ME LALALALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOUR RETORT LALALALALALA". Also, and this is more of a criticism of the plot over the whole first three games, but the fact that nobody believes an N7 (essentially a Tier-1 special forces operative) turned Spectre (the absolute best soldiers in the [I]entire galaxy[/I], sent on the most important missions and reporting directly to the council), is quite frankly baffling. The first few times in Mass Effect 1, sure, but after that you can't help but wonder what the fuck were people thinking. I don't recall, but I don't seem to remember a "WHEN HAVE I BEEN WRONG, FUCKFACE" dialogue choice in any of the games, but I distinctly remember wanting one.

[QUOTE=Alsojames;52172262] Also, and this is more of a criticism of the plot over the whole first three games, but the fact that nobody believes an N7 (essentially a Tier-1 special forces operative) turned Spectre (the absolute best soldiers in the [I]entire galaxy[/I], sent on the most important missions and reporting directly to the council), is quite frankly baffling. The first few times in Mass Effect 1, sure, but after that you can't help but wonder what the fuck were people thinking. [/QUOTE] Well, you have to remember that Spectres are far and wide in this galaxy, not to mention that they are the most clandestine force in the galaxy. So it's understandable that they made it hard for the locals to actually believe that you are a Spectre in the first place. Yes, granted that CDR Shepard made headlines as the first human Spectre, but even with futuristic, galactic-wide media, I argue that it would still be difficult for locals that Shepard runs into could believe that he is the real deal. I think one thing that I have another gripe on for Andromeda is that they missed out on the opportunity for them to have Ryder interject with the crew banter. I loved how you could pick sides as Shepard during the party, if they refined that system from ME3 and had it to where Ryder could also walk in on a conversation and have you choose your own opinion about the subject or pick a side, it would make this dialogue a lot more than just cheesy one-liners.

[QUOTE=stupid07er;52171271]Because the Reapers were a cool evil entity. Fighting and/or investigating their servants instead of the big baddies themselves for a whole game is a bit of a let down.[/QUOTE] Not for nothing, but doesn't that kind of describe Mass Effect 1 as well? The Geth were servants of the reapers and we fought them for the majority of the game.

[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;52172894]Not for nothing, but doesn't that kind of describe Mass Effect 1 as well? The Geth were servants of the reapers and we fought them for the majority of the game.[/QUOTE] Yes, because them only being tools wasn't presented until right at the end. Usually when you reveal the real enemy at the end of the first game, you proceed with them as the real enemy in the second game. You don't introduce another proxy enemy.

Is it weird the only Asari's whose face I can stand (in Andromeda) is Peebee.

[QUOTE=JeSuisIkea;52176011]Is it weird the only Asari's whose face I can stand (in Andromeda) is Peebee.[/QUOTE] Not really, seeing as Peebee is the only one with a unique face, and the rest have the same face as the ghost from the Casper film.

Maybe Ryder is just a huge racist what thinks "You all look the same to me"

At times I even wonder if Andromeda has any music in it. What a far cry from the awesome tunes in the original trilogy.

[QUOTE=Hatley;52176144]Maybe Ryder is just a huge racist what thinks "You all look the same to me"[/QUOTE] Clearly it's SAM being the racist that replaces their faces. When will they learn to never trust an ai.

I still want a scene or something similar along the lines of having no translator to assist you in the ME universe. There's several examples of I believe Krogan,Turian,Salarian and Asari scripts all over ME2 and 3. It'd be a great way of expanding the universe just a little more when you hear their native languages. granted they'd be creative 4 or more separate languages for you to hear.

Actually krogan have a shit ton of languages, since apparently each clan has a private language, a battle language, and then the clan dialect and then I guess "tuchankan" or whatever they argue at each other with.

Just finished the game few hours ago (80 hours, most side quests done, Explorer build). kinda glad I picked up the game despite hearing all the mainstream hate. I just spend most of my time staring at the subtitles so I don't have to look at the crappy animations. Visually it looks good, decent cast (liked that they kept tradition by having the starting human companions being the most deadpan bricks), everything else kinda painfully average, and fuck the unholy amount of scan and fetch quests. Ketts are also one of the most boring antagonist faction since they leave so little room for sympathy with their extreme ethics that yield minuscule results (they technically got beat by armed pioneers who are 600 years out of date in terms of tech ffs) Still, nice to have more Mass Effect. Bring on the next one. [editline]past[/editline] And why there still isn't any naked turians or salarians?!? com'on man how come angara get this treatment before them

You can't be 600 years out of date in terms of technology when progression is relative galactically. Who knows, maybe it took them 600 years to get to your level. My biggest peeve with the game is there were multiple instances where people used human colloquialism, or addressed things by name that were invented by singular people. For instance, Peebee says that she calls them the "remnant". Then everyone starts calling them that. At some point "kett" is used, and everyone says it. Sometimes people say it out of order of you being told what to call them, yourself. I find that when I play bioware games, I try to complete the area/planet completely before moving on; so I was already trying to get to the planet boss on Eladen before myself or any of the squadmates should have known what it was. Then I go over to investigate a downed ship or something and Peebee just yells [sp] LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THAT ARCHITECT[/sp]. Oh, and there's a little thing you get if [sp]you get all the planets to 100% viability. I thought that Habitat 7 was going to open up to me, but no, it's a message about how everyone is cheering about 100% viability! I hadn't even moved on to finding the archon's ship at this point. Then the cutscene happens and he says "People from everywhere, including meridian, are cheering." What the fuck? I didn't know what Meridian was, and now there's people there?[/sp] I guess it's semantics and I'm sure it's difficult to keep track of those things, but over-all everything felt pretty sloppy in terms of execution. I still very much enjoyed it, but there's some major problems.

Wasn't the name Kett a nickname the Nexus made up before you arrived as a way to identify them? Then everyone else , even the kett, used the name as their actual name?

[QUOTE=revan740;52187108]You can't be 600 years out of date in terms of technology when progression is relative galactically. Who knows, maybe it took them 600 years to get to your level. My biggest peeve with the game is there were multiple instances where people used human colloquialism, or addressed things by name that were invented by singular people. For instance, Peebee says that she calls them the "remnant". Then everyone starts calling them that. At some point "kett" is used, and everyone says it. Sometimes people say it out of order of you being told what to call them, yourself. I find that when I play bioware games, I try to complete the area/planet completely before moving on; so I was already trying to get to the planet boss on Eladen before myself or any of the squadmates should have known what it was. Then I go over to investigate a downed ship or something and Peebee just yells [sp] LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THAT ARCHITECT[/sp]. Oh, and there's a little thing you get if [sp]you get all the planets to 100% viability. I thought that Habitat 7 was going to open up to me, but no, it's a message about how everyone is cheering about 100% viability! I hadn't even moved on to finding the archon's ship at this point. Then the cutscene happens and he says "People from everywhere, including meridian, are cheering." What the fuck? I didn't know what Meridian was, and now there's people there?[/sp] I guess it's semantics and I'm sure it's difficult to keep track of those things, but over-all everything felt pretty sloppy in terms of execution. I still very much enjoyed it, but there's some major problems.[/QUOTE] ME:A as a whole is a game that reeks of just sloppy execution. It has the pieces it needs and wants but bad execution or playing TOO SAFE gives it an incredibly dull setting. Like if they played to more a new galaxy edge we very well might have see advanced and primitive species rather than the Kett and Angara. Not saying much but the whole Heleus cluster is just ecologically dead and really didn't make it fun to explore. Maybe we actually go to see the OTHER Angaran cities rather than just a small portion of Aya and the resistance outposts.

[QUOTE=Geos88;52187142]Wasn't the name Kett a nickname the Nexus made up before you arrived as a way to identify them? Then everyone else , even the kett, used the name as their actual name?[/QUOTE] Since I doubt everyone in the Andromeda galaxy knows English, I assume that there's some real-time translation happening through earbuds or something, and it just translates whatever the kett call themselves to kett.

[QUOTE=AlienCreature;52188415]Since I doubt everyone in the Andromeda galaxy knows English, I assume that there's some real-time translation happening through earbuds or something, and it just translates whatever the kett call themselves to kett.[/QUOTE] It's like how you hear Anagaran speaking Angaran til main NPC one starts talking to you, same with Kek. Even so their battle dialog is still is in their native languages. So under this assumption that the Exiles and Angara learned each other's languages after they got kicked off the Nexus. Hence why we get a near direct translation from the Angaran leaders. That being said the terminals for the Kett and Angara terminals and scripts provide incorrect or near translations to why they mean, that along with SAM handwaving shit we can assume it just works. That being said the Kett term might be a similar thing the translators added to the database. So to the Milky Way people, the Kett are The Kett, it's what we call them. To the Angara they might be called something completely different but the translators make it Kett. Same for how the Kett are, I highly doubt they he's called Archon, about it's an appropriate translation that's been decided on.

They probably just said "fuck it, space translation magic" with the whole language barrier because that shit makes actual first contacts a real pain to write. Andromeda does setup decently for future Andromeda-based Mass Effect games (wonder if we are ever going back to Milky Way). Either way, shouldn't Kett represents the epitome of present-time Andromeda tech since they are conquerors of that galaxy? (except for the usual advanced ancient race bullshit like the Remnants and [sp]Jardaan[/sp]) Surely Milky Way is way ahead in terms of tech compared to Andromeda.

[QUOTE=revan740;52187108] Oh, and there's a little thing you get if [sp]you get all the planets to 100% viability. I thought that Habitat 7 was going to open up to me, but no, it's a message about how everyone is cheering about 100% viability! I hadn't even moved on to finding the archon's ship at this point. Then the cutscene happens and he says "People from everywhere, including meridian, are cheering." What the fuck? I didn't know what Meridian was, and now there's people there?[/sp][/QUOTE] Holy shit I thought I was the only one who noticed, I figured it a minor spoiler. [editline]5th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Noob4life;52188610]They probably just said "fuck it, space translation magic" with the whole language barrier because that shit makes actual first contacts a real pain to write. Andromeda does setup decently for future Andromeda-based Mass Effect games (wonder if we are ever going back to Milky Way). Either way, shouldn't Kett represents the epitome of present-time Andromeda tech since they are conquerors of that galaxy? (except for the usual advanced ancient race bullshit like the Remnants and [sp]Jardaan[/sp]) Surely Milky Way is way ahead in terms of tech compared to Andromeda.[/QUOTE] Assuming they survived the Reapers, they should be. 600 years is a LONG fucking time in terms of technology.

[QUOTE=Noob4life;52188610]They probably just said "fuck it, space translation magic" with the whole language barrier because that shit makes actual first contacts a real pain to write.[/QUOTE] I think it kinda cheapens the whole "exploration" and "discovery" theme the marketing promised of the game, tbh. Why not some Andromeda omni-tool-ish device SAM can interact with, and go from there? They could have done [I]something[/I] more. (I feel like that could be said for a lot of things in the game.) [QUOTE=Noob4life;52188610]Andromeda does setup decently for future Andromeda-based Mass Effect games (wonder if we are ever going back to Milky Way). Either way, shouldn't Kett represents the epitome of present-time Andromeda tech since they are conquerors of that galaxy? (except for the usual advanced ancient race bullshit like the Remnants and [sp]Jardaan[/sp]) Surely Milky Way is way ahead in terms of tech compared to Andromeda.[/QUOTE] I would be more interested in ME:A if they had taken some more risks, changed up the formula. The Ghost Rider trailer looked so promising, it would be cool if the Initiative wasn't so established by the time you arrive. The Remnant is just a macguffin. Had they had their own [I]active[/I] empire there, and you had to deal with them as the underdog, vastly inferior tech and intelligence-wise, and, depending on your actions, non-/hostile, it would have been something else, and very interesting. But they're just a macguffin. Kett aren't that much more advanced than you, which is weird since they don't have a Reaper culling (afawk) and should have more time to develop. In the Milky Way tech would be more advanced in 3 of 4 endings, yeah. But I don't think we'll see the Milky Way again, not unless BioWare grows some balls and decide on a canon ending, but it is a lose-lose proposition, considering the... well, there's basically books written about it. However, perhaps I'd respect their "artistic integrity" more if they did.

I think a lot can be expanded the moment they find a way to travel out of Heleus cluster. Afaik the only facts cemented on the entire Andromeda galaxy are: [sp]1. Kett has huge presence throughout the galaxy, going about assimilating other species. 2. Jardaan is out there... somewhere. Possibly not extinct. 3. There are definitely other alien races out there fighting Kett.[/sp] Other than these, anything is possible. Hell, they can pull a w40k for all I care (and kett being just another faction).

[QUOTE=Noob4life;52189925]I think a lot can be expanded the moment they find a way to travel out of Heleus cluster. Afaik the only facts cemented on the entire Andromeda galaxy are: [sp]1. Kett has huge presence throughout the galaxy, going about assimilating other species. 2. Jardaan is out there... somewhere. Possibly not extinct. 3. There are definitely other alien races out there fighting Kett.[/sp] Other than these, anything is possible. Hell, they can pull a w40k for all I care (and kett being just another faction).[/QUOTE] [sp]During the Reaper War in the Milky Way, they obtained data about the Andromeda Initiative and a detachment of Reapers are now underway to Andromeda to pursue them, perhaps the Quarian Ark departed too late or the intel was leaked by someone and the Reapers want it. These Reapers would not have been affected by the Crucible's firing at all since they may have been effectively out of the Milky Way when they took off into Dark Space.[/sp]

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After ending Dlc speculation [sp] I'm hoping the quarian ark messages was because of geth on board and not reapers. I miss the geth. [/sp]

[QUOTE=NapyDaWise;52193057]After ending Dlc speculation [sp] I'm hoping the quarian ark messages was because of geth on board and not reapers. I miss the geth. [/sp][/QUOTE] That must be one messy ark, cramming so many races together.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;52192236][sp]During the Reaper War in the Milky Way, they obtained data about the Andromeda Initiative and a detachment of Reapers are now underway to Andromeda to pursue them, perhaps the Quarian Ark departed too late or the intel was leaked by someone and the Reapers want it. These Reapers would not have been affected by the Crucible's firing at all since they may have been effectively out of the Milky Way when they took off into Dark Space.[/sp][/QUOTE] That would be a cheap-ass move. [sp]Besides, as long as the ending stands as canon, nothing can redeem them. From eldritch machine gods straight out Cthulhu lore to faulty VI's. A letdown if ever there was one. I do my best to suppress any memory of the Catalyst, but the thing neuters them as villains.[/sp] [QUOTE=Crpto2007;52192801]Going to replay all mass effect games then pick up andromeda. It's been years since I played them so I only remember bits and pieces[/QUOTE] I [I]highly[/I] recommend [URL="http://www.nexusmods.com/masseffect3/mods/66/?"]MEHEM[/URL] or something similar, [URL="http://www.nexusmods.com/masseffect3/mods/2/?"]Citadel Epilogue Mod[/URL], [URL="http://www.nexusmods.com/masseffect3/mods/350/?"]EGM - Expanded Galaxy Mod[/URL], [URL="http://www.nexusmods.com/masseffect3/mods/411/?"]ME3Recalibrated[/URL] and a [URL="http://www.nexusmods.com/masseffect3/mods/173/?"]few[/URL] [URL="http://www.nexusmods.com/masseffect3/mods/248/?"]others[/URL]. If you're a romantic, [URL="http://www.nexusmods.com/masseffect3/mods/412/?"]BackOff[/URL] is probably right up your alley. [I](All these work in concert.)[/I] I did what you're planning a few weeks ago, minus picking up ME:A. Added these mods for the first time, did a trilogy-wide 100% run. These make ME3 [I]much[/I] more enjoyable, but sadly can't remove Kai "EdgeLord" Leng. The other two doesn't really need mods, aside from perhaps a [URL="http://www.nexusmods.com/masseffect/mods/1/?"]graphical overhaul[/URL] for 1, and something to make the [URL="http://www.nexusmods.com/masseffect2/mods/63/?"]planet-scanning less tedious[/URL]. [editline]6.5.2017[/editline] [QUOTE=EliaMoroes;52193122]Say, is there a mod or otherwise a save file editor to get a Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 campaigns save files in one go, ready to be imported in Mass Effect 3? Thing is, I'd even like to replay Mass Effect 3, but I don't want to go to the hassle of replaying those two too, and I always found the Gibbed Editor to be a bit user-unfriendly when it comes to import both the first and the second game's choices[/QUOTE] I can do better: [url]http://masseffectsaves.com/[/url] Pretty much every combo you could want.

Say, is there a mod or otherwise a save file editor to get a Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 campaigns save files in one go, ready to be imported in Mass Effect 3? Thing is, I'd even like to replay Mass Effect 3, but I don't want to go to the hassle of replaying those two too, and I always found the Gibbed Editor to be a bit user-unfriendly when it comes to import both the first and the second game's choices

There exist any mods to just max out your EMS in 3?