[QUOTE=Notanything;52880772]Yeah, you need like a molotov to use it though. And even then, you have to be careful because the molotov breaking can alert NPCs, so it's not always feasible on every stealth heist. As far as I know, it's either the molotov, or choosing fall damage, the latter of which is harder to use.
The speed boost is incredible though, I don't know if it affects loot hauling speed too much, but it makes you move lightning fast on really big maps like Shadow Raid.[/QUOTE]
I managed to come up with an experimental build that doesn't require Molotovs and uses Frenzy instead, has all of the essentials for stealth, and manages to stay under 3 concealment with a powerful, silent, accurate weapon for picking off guards or killing cameras and a silent shotgun while still using Team Boosts on both.
[url]http://pd2tools.com/l/4a4860ac0a0da637ab1ef981c59d8e21[/url]
I haven't actually tested this yet so I have no idea if it's worth it over Burglar (I believe that lockpicking speed and pager answering speed is a big deal and the 30% health you start with may not be enough to make it worthwhile), but it should give you the fastest natural speed on any stealth heist without needing to damage yourself while still covering every base needed.
[editline]11th November 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mochnel;52877692]ON A SIDE NOTE, i've been trying to do a build revolving around the GSPS shotgun, anyone willing to give me tips and advice? i can't figure out what primary to get and whether i should increase mag or not (it has bad pickup rate).[/QUOTE]
Build it like you would a Loco build. I'm not sure how to increase the mag size on the GSPS, though.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;52881317]
Build it like you would a Loco build. I'm not sure how to increase the mag size on the GSPS, though.[/QUOTE]
now that you mention it, the close by ACED skill doesnt increase the GSPS mag (as seen in PD2tools anyway)
but its still a bit different than the loco, i never had ammo problems with loco, but GSPS seems to have a bad pickup rate
[QUOTE=Mochnel;52885329]now that you mention it, the close by ACED skill doesnt increase the GSPS mag (as seen in PD2tools anyway)
but its still a bit different than the loco, i never had ammo problems with loco, but GSPS seems to have a bad pickup rate[/QUOTE]
The GSPS does more damage, it's like a secondary Mosconi.
In one of my first games after the update a teammate bot picked up a bag, but this hasn't happened again.
What's going on?
[QUOTE=ASIC;52885659]In one of my first games after the update a teammate bot picked up a bag, but this hasn't happened again.
What's going on?[/QUOTE]
If they visibly ducked down and picked it up like Cops do, then the host was likely running 'MonKeepers' mod. An extension of Keepers that allows Bots to pick up bags and go toss them somewhere else.
This happened again in the game I was just in. I don't have mods.
Another question:
How do you get the safe house nightmare achievements. Do you need to get the correct baby mask on the first try, or not?
[QUOTE=SlickBlade;52885707]If they visibly ducked down and picked it up like Cops do, then the host was likely running 'MonKeepers' mod. An extension of Keepers that allows Bots to pick up bags and go toss them somewhere else.[/QUOTE]
Myself, I think that should be a feature for solo players so they don't have to constantly walk back and forth. It's especially notable during bank heists (puns are fun).
[QUOTE=ASIC;52885726]This happened again in the game I was just in. I don't have mods.
Another question:
How do you get the safe house nightmare achievements. Do you need to get the correct baby mask on the first try, or not?[/QUOTE]
The only way vanilla bots will carry bags is if you throw them one
If you throw bags at bots nowadays, they should carry them if it hits correctly
[video]https://youtu.be/WnAmEPxN6pI[/video]
I pounded out a guide while drunk the other night. It's apparently already more popular than I had anticipated it might be, I figured it was stuff people already knew. Guess not.
[url]http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1194049091[/url]
Here it is if you're interested.
(By the way that's your best yet, Mario.)
[QUOTE=MarioInATopHat;52887201][video]https://youtu.be/WnAmEPxN6pI[/video][/QUOTE]
The explosion at the end just adds to it very nicely.
[QUOTE=Notanything;52880772]Yeah, you need like a molotov to use it though. And even then, you have to be careful because the molotov breaking can alert NPCs, so it's not always feasible on every stealth heist. As far as I know, it's either the molotov, or choosing fall damage, the latter of which is harder to use.
The speed boost is incredible though, I don't know if it affects loot hauling speed too much, but it makes you move lightning fast on really big maps like Shadow Raid.[/QUOTE]
I said using Frenzy, with which you're automatically capped to 25% health so you don't have to do that
So fucking hyped for PD2VR Beta in 2 days.
[QUOTE=GalaxyBeatzz;52890575]So fucking hyped for PD2VR Beta in 2 days.[/QUOTE]
I'd like to know how PAYDAY 2 VR stealthing will be, if it'll be annoying as fuck or grant additional advantages when you can seemingly phase into walls.
[SP]First I shall see dead bodies, only then shall I live... again.[/SP]
[QUOTE=ASIC;52885726]This happened again in the game I was just in. I don't have mods.
Another question:
How do you get the safe house nightmare achievements. Do you need to get the correct baby mask on the first try, or not?[/QUOTE]
Bags can be thrown at bots, in which case they will start carrying them until shouted at, or until the bag is picked up off their back.
The first four difficulties on Safehouse Nightmare require that you or a teammate pick up a mask in the safehouse at the end of the heist- note that there is one correct mask and some fakes, pick them up until you get the right one.
The later three difficulties just require completing the heist.
Completing a higher difficulty on safehouse nightmare will, uniquely, [I]not[/I] grant the lower difficulty achievements.
How late do safes usually come out after a character? I'm curious if we'll get a Duke Safe soon
[QUOTE=BenjaminTennison;52890806]I'd like to know how PAYDAY 2 VR stealthing will be, if it'll be annoying as fuck or grant additional advantages when you can seemingly phase into walls.
[SP]First I shall see dead bodies, only then shall I live... again.[/SP][/QUOTE]
OVK [URL="https://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/30/1483235412204991106/"]addressed[/URL] this topic and many others. It's a good read.
[QUOTE=BenjaminTennison;52885774]Myself, I think that should be a feature for solo players so they don't have to constantly walk back and forth. It's especially notable during bank heists (puns are fun).[/QUOTE]
Forget bank heist. A few years back I was playing train Heist solo, and had to transport all the bags myself.
I think it took me over an hour.
[QUOTE=ASIC;52893288]Forget bank heist. A few years back I was playing train Heist solo, and had to transport all the bags myself.
I think it took me over an hour.[/QUOTE]
Ever since soloing Train Heist to get the bags achievements, I cringe at the sight of it. It was probably the most painful experience in PD2 for me.
I only checked out Raid today after quite some time to be shocked by the fact that they actually made having foregrips on guns be used
[t]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/245180258880323594/380451574864019457/20171115211702_1.jpg[/t]
[t]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/245180258880323594/380454243951443970/20171115212723_1.jpg[/t]
Not without hiccups though
[t]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/245180258880323594/380454564316577802/20171115212726_1.jpg[/t]
[editline]15th November 2017[/editline]
LGL did it before Overkill would
Well fuck
LGL better than Overkill at their own engine
[QUOTE=Serge Ivanov;52892082]How late do safes usually come out after a character? I'm curious if we'll get a Duke Safe soon[/QUOTE]
Where the Fuck is jackets
[QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;52894185]Where the Fuck is jackets[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.overkillsoftware.com/games/scarfacesafe/[/url]
since not everyone has VR access, if there's anything people are curious about/would want me to try/see if you can exploit with the VR beta tomorrow, reply to this and i'll try to remember it when i'm fucking around with it tomorrow -- probably recording it
[QUOTE=Serge Ivanov;52894236][url]http://www.overkillsoftware.com/games/scarfacesafe/[/url][/QUOTE]
Nah, Jackets would be all purple, cyan and pink and I think we can all get behind that
[QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;52894397]Nah, Jackets would be all purple, cyan and pink and I think we can all get behind that[/QUOTE]
Thank god the crate doesn't exist then.
[QUOTE=Nickolas;52893756]I only checked out Raid today after quite some time to be shocked by the fact that they actually made having foregrips on guns be used
[t]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/245180258880323594/380451574864019457/20171115211702_1.jpg[/t]
[t]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/245180258880323594/380454243951443970/20171115212723_1.jpg[/t]
Not without hiccups though
[t]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/245180258880323594/380454564316577802/20171115212726_1.jpg[/t]
[editline]15th November 2017[/editline]
LGL did it before Overkill would
Well fuck[/QUOTE]
They've been pushing the bar like this since pre-release beta
We actually have a numbered FOV slider here
holy shit i've never listened to the take 2016 on panic room in 2000+ hrs what is going on here
[QUOTE=fendermcbender;52894373]since not everyone has VR access, if there's anything people are curious about/would want me to try/see if you can exploit with the VR beta tomorrow, reply to this and i'll try to remember it when i'm fucking around with it tomorrow -- probably recording it[/QUOTE]
Gonna join you and see if we can give each other a virtual hug while shooting cops at the same time
I tried to do the Weekly Job of Medic Army on FWB, which is easy enough except they don't warn you that hearing Wolf yell "ITS A MUDDAFUCKIN' [B][I]-MEDIC-[/I][/B] in that broken way of his a thousand times will crush your spirit
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