Chloe looked like she was in some sort of time travel in the past segment like max in the trailer
Does anyone else find it funny how [sp]Mr. Jefferson has been doing all that awful shit and yet the only thing he apologizes for is calling Max a cunt[/sp]?
[QUOTE=Skerion;52410030]Does anyone else find it funny how [sp]Mr. Jefferson has been doing all that awful shit and yet the only thing he apologizes for is calling Max a cunt[/sp]?[/QUOTE]
Not really. Some times people who are really into awful shit don't feel sorry for what they do, because if they did they'd at least tried stop doing it.
Calling someone a cunt tho, that's not cool.
[QUOTE=werewolf0020;52408617]Chloe looked like she was in some sort of time travel in the past segment like max in the trailer[/QUOTE]
Given that in Life is Strange proper Chloe reacts to Max powers with total surprise, I can only assume that in Before the Storm Chloe:
1) Won't have access to any time-related powers whatsoever
2) She will have access to such powers, but she'll forget about them in the finale
... This prequel really isn't looking that promising, as far as the story is concerned
Its nearly here!
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OunUnpKLEGQ[/media]
i'm not expecting much but i suppose it'll be nice to have more lis. i'm more hyped for the full blown sequel, so hopefully this one sells well.
[QUOTE=simzboy;52378765]This handmade Chloe plush I ordered form Etsy finally arrived. I fucking love it, but I'm sad they weren't selling a Max to go with it.
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I got one too!
[t]http://i.imgur.com/YKUSeJn.jpg[/t]
Turns out if you ask for Max AND Chloe, you can get both, Customer order.
She also chucked in the Messenger bag and what I thought was a piece of Fabric that fell off, the Butterfly (Good thing I kept it)
And a B-day card since it was around my B-day.
[QUOTE=usaokay;52614169]
One thing I hope is that it disconnects from LiS enough where you don't need to play either one to know the full story.[/QUOTE]
i'm pretty sure that's a given. the game supposedly ends long before rachel disappears.
[QUOTE=milktree;52614179]i'm pretty sure that's a given. the game supposedly ends long before rachel disappears.[/QUOTE]
Three years prior to LiS, so yeah.
So I finished LiS some time ago, so here are some of my thoughts.
While I do think the time-travelling mechanic and story twist is cool, the game's true strength is in its way of portraying the social lives of the two heroes. Because let's be honest, LiS doesn't add anything to the time-travelling genre, and it certainly doesn't go as deep as I wished it had as far as scifi is concerned.
Episode 5 was a great episode, with great scenes... until that damn final dilemma. I thought it was absolutely terrible from a writing point of view. I had seen it coming from the first episode, but I had told myself "no way they're gonna fall for that dumb, cliché dilemma, right?". And they did.
I wish I could ignore it but the game made me clearly feel that the choice that makes the most sense is not the one the game [I]wants[/I] the player to choose.
[sp]Obviously the game wants the player to erase everything, since it forms a loop that is in tone with the game's theme. Besides, it's the only way to save everyone. Well, I didn't fall for it. What was the point of everything done in those 5 days then? I had foreseen that such a choice could be mentioned, but I worked everything I could against it. What would be the point of warning people? Of saving them from the storm? The game doesn't even give you the courtesy of saying how many may die. Just that "a big storm is slowly coming towards the town, some people will die! Based solely on this, you should discard your incredible time-bending power that helped save people anyway and may save even more in the future if used right!"
There's that too: what is the overall moral about the power? She got a magic power with the specific purpose to do good and save people (hence the timing of when she got the power), yet in the end the moral is to not use it because fgretrh§kfez(natural balance speculation bullshit)bfhezeafknlfn? I'm sorry but that's really dumb.[/sp]
Sorry if I got a bit angry here, but this game came so close to having a satisfying ending. But it really did not for me. I can't be the only one?
[editline]27th August 2017[/editline]
But hey, overall I still liked the game. But that ending felt like the ending of Mass Effect 3, you know?
It's very obvious that the ending was rushed due to money constraints.
It doesn't make sense in any context, so the slapped together a "Time Travel is Bad" plotline. It's so flaccid and awful
Yeah LiS was absolutely amazing for me but the ending left me a huge sour taste. Still I enjoyed everything up to the final episode
[QUOTE=Zeos;52616661]It's very obvious that the ending was rushed due to money constraints.
It doesn't make sense in any context, so the slapped together a "Time Travel is Bad" plotline. It's so flaccid and awful[/QUOTE]
I had no idea about those money constraints, but I'm happy you told me about it.
[QUOTE=Zeos;52616661]It's very obvious that the ending was rushed due to money constraints.
It doesn't make sense in any context, so the slapped together a "Time Travel is Bad" plotline. It's so flaccid and awful[/QUOTE]
I thought it was supposed to be about [sp] Max moving on with her life instead of living in the past. She was torn through all the episodes about ignoring her future (the photo contest) and instead focusing on her past (Chloe). Chloe is a representation of the past that Max needs to move forward from, because living in the past isn't healthy. It basically causes her brain damage throughout the game, culminating in the fever dream of ep5. I think the implementation of actually reversing everything you did kind of fucks up the entire thing, but I think the idea of sacrificing Chloe at the end makes a lot of sense for the story.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;52616871]I thought it was supposed to be about [sp] Max moving on with her life instead of living in the past. She was torn through all the episodes about ignoring her future (the photo contest) and instead focusing on her past (Chloe). Chloe is a representation of the past that Max needs to move forward from, because living in the past isn't healthy. It basically causes her brain damage throughout the game, culminating in the fever dream of ep5. I think the implementation of actually reversing everything you did kind of fucks up the entire thing, but I think the idea of sacrificing Chloe at the end makes a lot of sense for the story.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]I don't really see how to agree with that when "moving on with her life" apparently means letting her old best friend die a horrible death in front of her.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Loadingue;52616902][sp]I don't really see how to agree with that when "moving on with her life" apparently means letting her old best friend die a horrible death in front of her.[/sp][/QUOTE]
Point is that [sp] Chloe was [I]already dead[/I]. Way I see it, reversing time is sort of a metaphor for living in denial of your problems. When somebody dies, that's something you have to just live with.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;52617147]Point is that [sp] Chloe was [I]already dead[/I]. Way I see it, reversing time is sort of a metaphor for living in denial of your problems. When somebody dies, that's something you have to just live with.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]Yes, you're right about the metaphor, but if that was the moral of the game then they should have chosen a better way for Chloe to die. Getting shot in the toilet by a psycho was not really it, especially since Max doesn't even know it's Chloe at that point.
If it had been Chloe's death in her own bed shown in Episode 3, then that's the kind of death where you might look at Max rewinding time to escape it and say "she should just live with it".[/sp]
In my opinion, [sp]Some form of pre-determined faith exists and Chloe was supposed to die. Max received unexplained powers. She decided to save Chloe. Saving her over and over again as she tries to die leads to more unstable universe before a storm forms at their position. You have a choice: Submit to the universe and let Chloe die, saving the town and possibly your reality or saying "fuck the universe, I didn't ask for these powers, and I will be stubborn like that" Which leads to the destruction of town and every other place that they will travel to (does anyone think that the time corruption will just randomly stop because you sat in a car and drove away?). I can perfectly understand both mindsets, but personally I choose not to fuck with nature and return everything to how it was supposed to be.[/sp] I thought that the ending I had chosen was a lot more fleshed out than the other, and I was lucky enough to like it. The only thing I didn't like about Episode 5 were the [sp]forced stealth segments and exploring your memories as they float in the void. I thought it was too cliche. I know they can do better judging from the amazing first half of the time-fuck sequence, where you confess your love to the murderer and so on[/sp]
[editline]27th August 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Loadingue;52617190][sp]Yes, you're right about the metaphor, but if that was the moral of the game then they should have chosen a better way for Chloe to die. Getting shot in the toilet by a psycho was not really it, especially since Max doesn't even know it's Chloe at that point.[/sp][/QUOTE]
It's fine, it's dark and grim. Death is not romantic nor beautiful and shouldn't be portrayed that way.
[QUOTE=notbarnik;52617545]In my opinion, [sp]Some form of pre-determined faith exists and Chloe was supposed to die. Max received unexplained powers. She decided to save Chloe. Saving her over and over again as she tries to die leads to more unstable universe before a storm forms at their position. You have a choice: Submit to the universe and let Chloe die, saving the town and possibly your reality or saying "fuck the universe, I didn't ask for these powers, and I will be stubborn like that" Which leads to the destruction of town and every other place that they will travel to (does anyone think that the time corruption will just randomly stop because you sat in a car and drove away?).[/QUOTE]
[sp]And that's exactly what doesn't sit well with me. "Here, take this power in time of need! Oh, didn't I tell you you're actually not supposed to use it at all?" It really makes no sense to me, the universe makes no sense.
It could have made more sense in another game that's not as optimistically driven as LiS, but not here.[/sp]
Also, a major thing.
[sp]Max doesn't get powers from any personal choices.
She's given time travel powers at the EXACT MOMENT CHLOE IS KILLED and is made to rewind time, in such a way that she actually doesn't have a choice, to like, an hour before hand. Not before, not after. Why the fuck is Chloe's death somehow a bad thing if the universe tells her to stop it? Like, what? What?[/sp]
I remember that in several episodes there was some foreshadowing about Max' powers having some roots in the ancient native spirits or something like that, but by the time the last episode came out the whole thing was uncerimoniously dropped.
Maybe the writers wanted to expand on the origins of her powers in the final episode but the budget problems they met forced them to come up with something else entirely (and not for the better, if I may)
[QUOTE=EliaMoroes;52618431]I remember that in several episodes there was some foreshadowing about Max' powers having some roots in the ancient native spirits or something like that, but by the time the last episode came out the whole thing was uncerimoniously dropped.
Maybe the writers wanted to expand on the origins of her powers in the final episode but the budget problems they met forced them to come up with something else entirely (and not for the better, if I may)[/QUOTE]
There are shitloads of tribal artifacts and runes all over Arcadia Bay. Never explained
Guys you are forgetting there is a Sequel and Prequel on the way.
They can easily elaborate on it through those.
[editline]28th August 2017[/editline]
But it is disappointing it wasn't explained in Season 1.
[QUOTE=Xonax;52620417]Guys you are forgetting there is a Sequel and Prequel on the way.
They can easily elaborate on it through those.
[editline]28th August 2017[/editline]
But it is disappointing it wasn't explained in Season 1.[/QUOTE]LiS 2 will have a complete new cast, story and location. We probably won't find out unless the same supernatural shit from the first game carries over.
Also Before the Storm ends like, a whole three years before the first game and likely will have 0 supernatural shit in it, unless they retcon Chloe's reaction to Max's powers
i mean, arcadia bay in general has supernatural qualities.
I really want to know what happens to max after the first game
probably never going to be answered unfortunately, they said that season 1's character stories are over.
people are saying bts is bad. really bad. which isn't surprising.
What makes this not surprising? Did I miss something? Either way I haven't spoiled myself with any info, I'm just gonna start it tomorrow and see how I go
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