If you said that you prefered vinyls over digital music because of the timeless quality (which is debatable), the nostalgic crackle and the feeling of holding something dear in your hands, I would have respected your opinion.
But now I just think you are a trolling idiot.
i have nothing to argue,
i download illegal music.
HAR HAR HAR.
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If I had 50 million dollars and a warehouse big enough to store all that, I would totally take it off his hands.
maybe the record companies should spread it up between all of them depending on who published the album and if the company no longer exists its spread up evenly between all the major record companies.
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to above user, you are dumb.
[quote]and since some people are so ignorant to understand that Vinyl sounds a LOT better than mp3 or cd[/quote][I]What?[/I]
That makes so little sense, it's amazing. Why don't you write up a well phrased essay on why and most importantly [B]how [/B]Vinyl sounds better than an MP3.
That being said, that's an impressive collection, and should wind up in a Library or something.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;20998958][I]What?[/I]
[B]how [/B]Vinyl sounds better than an MP3.
[/QUOTE]
the ways mp3 are made........ if you watched the minidocumentary that I posted, you would've heard that they are proper versions of songs just with a lot of high and low frequencies removed and then compressed to make it storable, know what that means??? it means you lose a HELL of a lot of sounds when you play them on good speakers
I hear the album off the wall by michael jackson on superb mp3 quality... its absolutely great music, then I listen to the vinyl and I here a lot more smooth sounds and the vocals are a lot more expressive..
[QUOTE=Chris122990;20997867]If FLAC would get adopted on more devices, MP3 would die.[/QUOTE]
There's actually quite a lot of MP3 players that support the FLAC codec.
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Also, isn't WAV a lossless format?
[QUOTE=Akayz;20999140]the ways mp3 are made........ if you watched the minidocumentary that I posted, you would've heard that they are proper versions of songs just with a lot of high and low frequencies removed and then compressed to make it storable, know what that means??? it means you lose a HELL of a lot of sounds when you play them on good speakers
I hear the album off the wall by michael jackson on superb mp3 quality... its absolutely great music, then I listen to the vinyl and I here a lot more smooth sounds and the vocals are a lot more expressive..[/QUOTE]
First of all, you're an audiophile. Second, most CDs do not use the MP3 format. They use a different file type that has less compression. So it's not going to matter anyways if you are playing the music from a store bought CD.
Since records are read in mechanical manner, they are prone to being interfered with by small particles that may have collected on the record.
And you're not going to find a single speaker system under $10,000 that will be able to play most of those "frequencies" that you "lose" with MP3s.
flac is not that much superior in terms of music quality than mp3 so don't get ahead of yourselves there
"And you're not going to find a single speaker system under $10,000 that will be able to play most of those "frequencies" that you "lose" with MP3s."
how come can I hear a lot more of the music on a vinyl record compared to the same album remastered on mp3 through the same speakers?
Neither are records.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;20999593]Neither are records.[/QUOTE]
physics wise analogue is superior to digital
[QUOTE=Akayz;20995388]music is dead[/QUOTE]
no its not
but my ipod wont play vinyl records :saddowns:
[quote]physics wise analogue is superior to digital[/quote]No it isn't.
Also, your youtube comparisons also make no sense. When the video was made, the audio got compressed, and youtube compressed it further. Both those sound clips are playing with the same frequencies. You could get the same effect as the so called "Vinyl" version of that Nirvana song simply by fucking with your EQ settings. That video is a sham.
[QUOTE=saucekeg;20999694]but my ipod wont play vinyl records :saddowns:[/QUOTE]
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and to hypno toad:
if you learn physics you would find that digital technology in music is just 1s and 0s making an approximation of the sound, you get a jagged representation of studio quality music compared with the analogue which is EXACTLY straight from the studio masters
It annoys me that the old guy spent his life and so much money on a collection of albums. Yet he's pissed that the world doesn't care. No one deserves attention. Yet he thinks he does. He took a gamble to purchase it all and spend his life organizing it.
About the youtube video.
If Youtube is compressed, and both the digial and vinyl versions were compressed why weren't they exactly the same sounding? I thought compression takes out highs and bass and makes it sound like shit?
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and to hypno toad:
if you learn physics you would find that digital technology in music is just 1s and 0s making an approximation of the sound, you get a jagged representation of studio quality music compared with the analogue which is EXACTLY straight from the studio masters[/QUOTE]
I repeat:
[quote]When the video was made, the audio got compressed, and youtube compressed it further. Both those sound clips are playing with the same frequencies.[/quote]I could respect somebody who actually knows what they are talking about, but as with at least 75% of audiophiles, you're just somebody who likes expensive toys, and doesn't actually know why.
[QUOTE=Chris122990;20997867]If FLAC would get adopted on more devices, MP3 would die.[/QUOTE]
flac takes WAY too much space
Comparing Vinyl with mp3 is like
Comparing a Picture Perfect Printed Photo with The Compressed, Ugly, JPG picture.
Lets Make It: -
Vinyls - The Recorder have a different tip than the player. So the sound will never be the same.
Mp3 - Its small, compressed and easy. A man won't notice it. But A real music maniac will sure know it.
[QUOTE=kirderf;20999328]There's actually quite a lot of MP3 players that support the FLAC codec.
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Also, isn't WAV a lossless format?[/QUOTE]
Yes, but FLAC has a smaller filesize for the same quality I believe. And I meant mainstream ones like the iPod and zune and such.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;20999525]First of all, you're an audiophile. Second, most CDs do not use the MP3 format. They use a different file type that has less compression. So it's not going to matter anyways if you are playing the music from a store bought CD.
Since records are read in mechanical manner, they are prone to being interfered with by small particles that may have collected on the record.
And you're not going to find a single speaker system under $10,000 that will be able to play most of those "frequencies" that you "lose" with MP3s.[/QUOTE]
Actually, CDs are lossless. That means they contain the exact same sounds as the vinyl counterpart. What matters is what encoder you use when ripping to your computer. If you use a lossless compresser (FLAC is my favourite) it will be exactly like the original song.
You're ALL wrong (except the guy who said FLAC is better... I think it's open too)! We must use Open formats like OGG Vorbis [[url]http://www.vorbis.com/[/url]]! MP3 is flawed because you have to get a crappy license just to distribute (encode) your music, this is compared to having to get a license to put your music on vinyls... at the same time vinyls are beginning to become lower quality technology like VCR tapes to DVDs To Blu-Ray or Analog photography to Digital Photography. In the end Ogg Vorbis is a high quality open format that is free to encode/distribute with and is easier to share/distribute. than Vinyl.
[QUOTE=Akayz;20999547]
how come can I hear a lot more of the music on a vinyl record compared to the same album remastered on mp3 through the same speakers?[/QUOTE]
it's called a placebo
MP3 > Vinyl
guys! film reels are so much better then digital storage!
[QUOTE=Kybalt;21001507]guys! film reels are so much better then digital storage![/QUOTE]
No way man, everyone knows recordings by a straw fiber on an ancient Egyptian vase are the best.
I feel sorry for paul. That made me sad near the end listening to that song. It's an archive of our history just like a library of books!
mp3 ? what about .wav ? those are pretty high quality.
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[QUOTE=Mingebox;21002004]No way man, everyone knows recordings by a straw fiber on an ancient Egyptian vase are the best.[/QUOTE]
mythbusters prooved that this is false.
i have that same exact monocle
[QUOTE=kirderf;21000139]Actually, CDs are lossless. That means they contain the exact same sounds as the vinyl counterpart. What matters is what encoder you use when ripping to your computer. If you use a lossless compresser (FLAC is my favourite) it will be exactly like the original song.[/QUOTE]
Actually, CDs aren't lossless. CDs store music as digital information. Whenever you convert analogue to digital, NO MATTER WHAT, you are going to lose some of the quality.
Simple terms:
Analogue can be any number between 1 and 0 - (infinite values)
Digital can be 0 or 1 - (2 values)
That's why mp3's encoded at a higher kbps sound better.
[QUOTE=Weirdo009;21001266]MP3 > Vinyl[/QUOTE]
Just no.
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[url]http://www.obsessable.com/feature/mp3-vs-flac-vs-wav-audio-formats-primer/[/url]
^Good reading
I've got some old records downstairs, they really don't sound that great on my player. I have a new needle but I think I need the felt thingy to wipe the records down before playing em.
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