Crossdressing/Transgender Megathread v. There is an unicorn under my dress.
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Ehh, I wouldn't mind make-up.
[QUOTE=http://www.looking-glass.greenend.org.uk/voice.htm]Feminine Voice Techniques
Second Edition, October 1997
Introduction
This document is a collection of practical suggestions and ideas for self-help in the feminisation of the voice, developed by a group of male-to-female transsexuals within the Looking Glass Society.
Neither hormones nor genital surgery will 'un-break' a male voice, and voice-changing surgery is widely regarded as inadvisable, in addition to being at best only a partial solution. Thus, speech training is necessary in order to produce a satisfactory 'female' voice.
At first, it may seem hard to concentrate on all the different facets of producing a feminine voice, and lapses will happen. The only solution is to practice and practice again until it gradually becomes second nature.
The Methods
Sing! To loosen-up the voice box, extend your pitch range, and help develop good control, it can be very helpful to choose a female vocalist that you like, preferably one with a relatively deep voice, and sing along. The musically-minded may also wish to perform singing exercises, such as singing scales.
Raise the position of the laryngeal cartilage : up raises your voice pitch and decreases the characteristic male resonance. (The laryngeal cartilage is the 'movable' piece of cartilage that you can feel rising if you place a hand on your throat and sing a rising scale ( "doh, re, mi, fa, sol, lah, ti, doh" )). The point of this is to try to gain a higher 'baseline' pitch than you have previously used, and then increase the pitch further when placing emphasis.
For example you might decide that if you pitch the "doh" as your baseline male pitch, raising your basic pitch to about "fa" or "sol" would be sufficient. But do not overdo the pitch-raising: a squeaky, falsetto voice sounds very inappropriate on an adult woman. The pitch adjustment is a compromise --- for the technically-minded you should aim for above 160Hz; if you have access to a musical instrument that's about the G below middle C.
Of course, everyone starts out with a different original voice and some will be able to raise it more than others without sounding squeaky. You might find it slightly tiring on your voice-box at first, as you are unused to speaking in that register, but it should become comfortable with a little practice. If it does not, then you are probably trying to force your pitch up too high.
Partially open the glottis when speaking : The position of the glottis controls how much air passes over the vocal cords. When breathing rather than speaking, when whispering, or when producing an 'unvoiced' sound (where the vocal cords do not vibrate, like 'hhh' or 'sss' ), the glottis is fully open and all the air bypasses the vocal cords. With the glottis firmly closed, all the air is forced over the vocal cords, producing a fully-voiced and typically male voiced sound. You need to try to find a 'semi-whispering' position that eliminates the fully-voiced sound with heavy resonance in the chest, and imparts a breathy quality to the voice.
You can hear the difference between voiced and unvoiced sounds by comparing S and Z sounds (say 'sss' and 'zzz' , and feel how your vocal cords vibrate on the Z but not the S). You're trying to find a midpoint between an unvoiced (whispered) sound, and a fully-voiced 'male' sound.
Try saying the word 'hay', and pay attention to how you change between the unvoiced H sound and the voiced A sound: say it very slowly ( 'hhhhhaaaay' ) and feel the change in the vocal cords as your voice slides from the unvoiced 'hhh' sound to the voiced 'aaa' vowel sound. Then try to stop before you reach the fully-voiced point, and you should be producing a soft, breathy (feminine) 'aaa' sound.
Then try to learn to always use that half-open position for all voiced sounds. This is simply a matter of practice.
Place emphasis with pitch, not volume : Upward intonation places emphasis. Men place emphasis in their speech by varying the loudness, but keep their pitch within a very narrow range; on the other hand women tend to keep their loudness much more constant but vary their pitch a great deal to express emphasis.
Speak slowly, enunciate clearly : Especially consonants at the beginning and end of words. Don't mumble; clear voice requires fairly big lip movements. On the whole, women enunciate much more clearly and precisely than men.
Pace your speech carefully : Start and end sentences slowly and gently; do not sound clipped. Do not 'swallow' pronouns, articles or other 'little words' at the beginning or end of sentences. Male speech tends to be characterised by what speech therapists call 'hard attack' --- the first syllable is pronounced very hard, and quickly. Women usually start a sentence more softly.
Use appropriate content : Men and women tend to talk about the same things in different ways; what you say contains gender cues, just as much as how you say it. Women tend to concentrate more on thoughts and feelings, while men concentrate on objects and actions. Men generally use more 'short cuts', colloquialisms and bad language, too.
A simple illustration is to imagine someone asking a friend if they are going to go for a drink after work. A male might say something like 'Coming down the pub?' : rather abrupt, using the minimum of words and concentrating on the desired action in a rather impersonal way. A woman might say 'Do you feel like going for a drink tonight?' : concentrating on her friend's feelings and desires, personal, and not abbreviated.
Pay attention to tongue position : The tongue is higher and flatter for female than for male. This gives 'dental' sounds (ones that involve the teeth, like T and D) a softer, breathier, almost sibilant quality in the female. Say 'tttt' in male mode, then 'ssss'; find the halfway position, that is the female position for the letters T and D; likewise for a TH sound, etc. Use plenty of air to get a breathy sound.
Hold your mouth in the right shape : A slight smile helps, and is the 'resting' facial expression for a woman anyway. 'Rounder' lips (a slight pout), and good lip movement, help produce a clearly enunciated voice.
Develop head resonance : One of the biggest problems facing TS women is, after learning to produce a soft, feminine voice, to then learn how to speak loudly when necessary without the voice returning to a masculine sound. Women gain loudness by using the cavities inside the head as a 'sounding box' whereas men use the chest.
To gain a louder feminine voice, develop head resonance rather than chest resonance --- open your mouth a little more, use more air, and 'push' your voice up into your head.
Use Feedback : Record samples of your voice and listen to yourself. Read a passage of text, listen to yourself and keep practicing. It can be helpful to actually read these notes aloud, practising each point as you read it. Then listen to yourself and successively refine your voice. [/QUOTE]
[editline]11th July 2012[/editline]
good info imo
[QUOTE=Canter;36710035]I think they mean "like a freak" as in they have a manly complexion or something along that lines which makes them look "like a freak" when they're dressed.[/QUOTE]
;~;
[QUOTE=Cotroxy;36716423];~;[/QUOTE]
Oh god I didn't mean it like that please tell me I'm wrong >.<
you are not wrong
[QUOTE=Cotroxy;36716928]you are not wrong[/QUOTE]
stop craving for attention, you're fine as you are x
but i need it to stay alive!
I've got horrid, dry skin, woo allergies and all that jazz.
I'm not gonna gun for lookin' good, only at the very least presentable.
Though, when I eventually do grab HRT, I'm gonna be lookin' forward to softer skin. Been an alligator most of my life.
[QUOTE=Inufin;36712474][editline]11th July 2012[/editline]
good info imo[/QUOTE]
I reckon this would be quite useful to me. If I knew what those words meant.
[QUOTE=DiscoInferno;36719667]I reckon this would be quite useful to me. If I knew what those words meant.[/QUOTE]
wikipedia does wonders
[QUOTE=Cotroxy;36720025]wikipedia does wonders[/QUOTE]
Wiktionary in this case.
i use wikipedia because i have no idea what the website you just said is
[QUOTE=Cotroxy;36720040]i use wikipedia because i have no idea what the website you just said is[/QUOTE]
Dictionary.
dictionaries are lame
i like encylcopedias better
[editline]11th July 2012[/editline]
on another note my mom got me another medium t-shirt
its too big
why are they always too big
she gives me large shirts too
[QUOTE=Cotroxy;36720084]dictionaries are lame
i like encylcopedias better
[editline]11th July 2012[/editline]
on another note my mom got me another medium t-shirt
its too big
why are they always too big
she gives me large shirts too[/QUOTE]
Maybe shes hinting something...
[QUOTE=Viidya;36723158]Maybe shes hinting something...[/QUOTE]
fuck yoooooou
:c
then how come small shirts fit me
[QUOTE=Cotroxy;36723384]fuck yoooooou
:c
then how come small shirts fit me[/QUOTE]
Eh, just because it fits you doesn't mean it fits you well.
[QUOTE=wingless;36723429]Eh, just because it fits you doesn't mean it fits you well.[/QUOTE]
but it doesn't automatically mean it doesn't fit you well
lol
[editline]11th July 2012[/editline]
she just wants me to keep her old clothes for some reason, our family has a history of getting gargantuan and i seem to be the one thats able to break the pattern, even with a low metabolism.
though mediums usually fit me there are the odd smalls and stuff that fit well
[editline]11th July 2012[/editline]
eg i have these pajamas that are medium, and they're double the size of me, same goes for these sweatpants i have too. should've gotten them in a small
[editline]11th July 2012[/editline]
then there's that medium t-shirt she gave me too, afaik she bought it for me rather than just passed it down, cause if she was passing it down it'd be either a large or an extra large :v
its too big still
Not in the most sunny-n-bright of moods.
neither am i, it's ok
Same
Yep
[img]http://i.imgur.com/H0bnA.jpg[/img]
I for one feel pretty damn good :D I've been working on some "important" stuff (aka shit for my gaming videos on youtube, lol) and my friend who's staying over has been guarding my laptop with steam logged in yelling "YOU GOT A MESSAGE" every time I get a message but won't let me check it because I "have to work to educate the masses". The videos I put up are far from educational :v:
-oops
[QUOTE=l l;36732650]Inufin did you really change the name of your tumblr because t sonar wouldn't stop bawling about it?[/QUOTE]
Really? You're gonna start shit too?
oh dear
I already snipped it just relax and don't quote it
this is what happens when you try to resolve things before they spiral out of control
[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0]
Fuck you[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=l l;36732757]I already snipped it just relax and don't quote it
this is what happens when you try to resolve things before they spiral out of control
<posts PM>[/QUOTE]
[b]Private[/b] Message.
:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=l l;36732757]I already snipped it just relax and don't quote it
this is what happens when you try to resolve things before they spiral out of control[/QUOTE]
You're STILL trying to start shit.
stop.
No one fight please :c
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