• Crossdressing/Transgender Megathread v. There is an unicorn under my dress.
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[QUOTE=Weltmeister;35381983]He was consenting to sex with a female, not a homosexual male. If he gets deceived into thinking it was a girl, but it wasn't, it's no longer consensual.[/QUOTE]Read a book.
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here comes the shitstorm abandoning thread
buh bye
[QUOTE=HorizoN;35381996]Are you ridiculous? She could still be a transperson which would COUNT as a fucking female.[/QUOTE] The person has a Texas State ID which labels him a male and his name is Robert. According to my friend he was led on to believe his name was Kayla. His roommate will be able to testify, same with some friends who were at the club. When someone gets deceived any form of consent is tossed out the window. There's just no defense, the charges are just as valid as the aggravated assault charges.
[QUOTE=Weltmeister;35382024]The person has a Texas State ID which labels him a male and his name is Robert. According to my friend he was led on to believe his name was Kayla. His roommate will be able to testify, same with some friends who were at the club. When someone gets deceived any form of consent is tossed out the window. There's just no defense, the charges are just as valid as the aggravated assault charges.[/QUOTE] Hey, guess what? I have an ID that refers to me as a male until I get an anatomical surgery. I also have to be referred to by my fucking male name which is absolutely infuriating. But I prefer to be known as Sydney. So basically I'm decieving someone if I present myself as female and think of myself as a female with a female name? IDs don't say everything. Lots of shit can't happen until you have anatomical surgery and surgeon letters/therapist's letters among other things, which can run you up thousands of dollars in the U.S. since you still don't have national fucking health care.
[QUOTE=Anna Banana;35382003]Read a book.[/QUOTE] Wow are you trying to challenge that? [quote]...that consent obtained by fraud is no consent at all is not true as a general proposition either in fact or in law.[/quote] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consent_(criminal_law)#Consent_obtained_by_deception[/url] Grow up.
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[QUOTE=HorizoN;35382037]Hey, guess what? I have an ID that refers to me as a male until I get an anatomical surgery. I also have to be referred to by my fucking male name which is absolutely infuriating. But I prefer to be known as Sydney. So basically I'm decieving someone if I present myself as female and think of myself as a female with a female name? IDs don't say everything. Lots of shit can't happen until you have anatomical surgery and surgeon letters/therapist's letters among other things, which can run you up thousands of dollars in the U.S. since you still don't have national fucking health care.[/QUOTE] Well good for you. He has an extremely solid case against some fucking asshole (who as i've said I have no problem with him being a crossdresser, but rather a lowly scum who likes to deceive people into having sex with him) who filed bullshit aggravated assault charges against him regardless.
[QUOTE=Weltmeister;35382049]Well good for you. He has an extremely solid case against some fucking asshole (who as i've said I have no problem with him being a crossdresser, but rather a lowly scum who likes to deceive people into having sex with him) who filed bullshit aggravated assault charges against him regardless.[/QUOTE] Still not necessarily just a crossdresser. But I'm not going to bother explaining anymore as it's clear you don't want to listen to the fact that maybe [b]she[/b] might just be transgender?
[QUOTE=HorizoN;35382063]Still not necessarily just a crossdresser. But I'm not going to bother explaining anymore as it's clear you don't want to listen to the fact that maybe [b]she[/b] might just be transgender?[/QUOTE] Even if he claims to be transgender there's no consent in him putting his MALE GENITALIA on his face. It's 100% sexual assault. Your emotional stance on the matter won't change that in any way, sorry to inform you.
The girl should have stated that she was transgender, and he shouldn't have hit her for any reason. You guys are all saying the same thing.
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Both sides of this argument are being retarded. Both persons involved committed what equate to crimes - one count of Sexual who-do-you-call-it, and one count of Assault. Both are at fault for their actions and need to either own up and sit in jail for a little, or drop all charges and move on with their life. She led him on and smacking him in the face with her dick is unacceptable unless his intent to want such was expressed. And at the same time, his losing control and socking her (which, to be honest, she deserves to some degree, especially if she's pulled it before) is also unacceptable and he should have been able to control himself. Long story short neither party is innocent, they need to deal with this like adults.
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[QUOTE=HorizoN;35382086]Well. Sorry to say but transgender people are subject to even more discrimination than LGB people. My own experiences with it as well as others who have been hurt or even killed over being TG are enough proof. But hey I'm just going to stop replying to him since I don't want to start an even bigger shitstorm.[/QUOTE] I'm aware of that and it's a shame. But telling someone that you're transgender is in my opinion much better than waiting till they simply find out. If they're going to kill you over it in the first place it seems riskier to leave it until your alone with the person.
[QUOTE=biodude94566;35382106]Both sides of this argument are being retarded. Both persons involved committed what equate to crimes - one count of Sexual who-do-you-call-it, and one count of Assault. Both are at fault for their actions and need to either own up and sit in jail for a little, or drop all charges and move on with their life. She led him on and smacking him in the face with her dick is unacceptable unless his intent to want such was expressed. And at the same time, his losing control and socking her (which, to be honest, she deserves to some degree, especially if she's pulled it before) is also unacceptable and he should have been able to control himself. Long story short neither party is innocent, they need to deal with this like adults.[/QUOTE] He wants to drop the charges, he really does, but the other party seemingly won't budge. So welp, looks like two more people get to go to jail.
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[QUOTE=Weltmeister;35382072]Even if he claims to be transgender there's no consent in him putting his MALE GENITALIA on his face. It's 100% sexual assault. Your emotional stance on the matter won't change that in any way, sorry to inform you.[/QUOTE] Jesus Christ, I'm not even transgendered and you're making my blood boil. Get the fuck out, now, before you make an even larger fool out of yourself, if thats even possible. You've deliberately called a woman (I don't care what you say, she is a girl) something extremely offensive and rude, you're protecting a guy who assaulted someone because he's transphobic and got startled, and you're trying to get the woman arrested for sexual assault, which never happened, because he consented. I think its time for you to leave.
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[QUOTE=hoodoo456;35382127]Jesus Christ, I'm not even transgendered and you're making my blood boil. Get the fuck out, now, before you make an even larger fool out of yourself, if thats even possible. You've deliberately called a woman (I don't care what you say, she is a girl) something extremely offensive and rude, you're protecting a guy who assaulted someone because he's transphobic and got startled, and you're trying to get the woman arrested for sexual assault, which never happened, because he consented. I think its time for you to leave.[/QUOTE] If you think that's consent I got some bad news for you.
[QUOTE=HorizoN;35382128]Eh, really it all depends on the situation. I wouldn't really do it in say, a school environment because shit like that can spread around very fast. However if by all means you aren't going to see them again, like just some random person whom you've shown interest in then by all means go ahead I guess. I plan on having anatomical surgery so it won't even matter for me anyway really.[/QUOTE] Well of course. Completely agree. But still my point stands, you can't get far into a relationship without your partner knowing.
[QUOTE=Weltmeister;35382135]If you think that's consent I got some bad news for you.[/QUOTE] He said yes to having sex no, it doesn't matter what junk the other person has, he consented to sexual intercourse with that particular invidual can you guess what that means? its one little word, and it starts with a C...
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[QUOTE=hoodoo456;35382151]He said yes to having sex no, it doesn't matter what junk the other person has, he consented to sexual intercourse with that particular invidual can you guess what that means? its one little word, and it starts with a C...[/QUOTE] As a heterosexual male, he consented to sex with a heterosexual female. However, he was instead consenting to sex with a homosexual male who used fraud to obtain said consent. This whole "consent" argument won't hold up at all in court. Stop being fourteen. e: Incase you missed this, is hasn't held up in court before either. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consent_(criminal_law)#Consent_obtained_by_deception[/url]
[QUOTE=Weltmeister;35382168]As a heterosexual male, he consented to sex with a heterosexual female. However, he was instead consenting to sex with a homosexual male who used fraud to obtain said consent. This whole "consent" argument won't hold up at all in court. Stop being fourteen.[/QUOTE] oh my god you didn't just call her a guy this time, you called her a [B]HOMOSEXUAL[/B] guy get the fuck out. right fucking now. because otherwise, you are going to get not just a world of shit, but a whole fucking universe of shit. just leave now, so we don't have to put up with your bigoted idiocy. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Internet tough guy" - Dragon))[/highlight]
I'm quaking in my little boots. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("You have insane tunnel vision or are just being obtuse about things to be a prick. Either way stop posting in this thread" - Dragon))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Weltmeister;35382222]I'm quaking in my little boots.[/QUOTE] Whatever, just get out.
I noticed there's a lot of new posts and thought it'd be some constructive discussion wow
[QUOTE=Weltmeister;35382168]As a heterosexual male, he consented to sex with a heterosexual female. However, he was instead consenting to sex with a homosexual male who used fraud to obtain said consent. This whole "consent" argument won't hold up at all in court. Stop being fourteen. e: Incase you missed this, is hasn't held up in court before either. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consent_(criminal_law)#Consent_obtained_by_deception[/url][/QUOTE] I can't say I understand completely. If I, a heterosexual guy, went down on a girl to find a disgusting looking vagina, I don't think I'd be able to claim anything because she didn't tell me that she had a terrible vagina. Later, if I went down to find a penis on someone I assumed to be biologically female, isn't that similar? I didn't think the genitals would matter. In either case it would have been nice to know, but that's no grounds to hit the person.
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