• Crossdressing/Transgender Megathread v. There is an unicorn under my dress.
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[QUOTE=Tattimatonen;35382259]I noticed there's a lot of new posts and thought it'd be some constructive discussion wow[/QUOTE] Constructive Discussion? on Facepunch? I can't say I've ever seen such a thing. :v:
[QUOTE=hoodoo456;35382196]oh my god you didn't just call her a guy this time, you called her a [B]HOMOSEXUAL[/B] guy get the fuck out. right fucking now. because otherwise, you are going to get not just a world of shit, but a whole fucking universe of shit. just leave now, so we don't have to put up with your bigoted idiocy.[/QUOTE] I think you're being unnecessarily inflammatory.
[QUOTE=biodude94566;35382308]I think you're being unnecessarily inflammatory.[/QUOTE] Sorry, I just got kinda angry at him for being so bigoted.
[QUOTE=hoodoo456;35382316]Sorry, I just got kinda angry at him for being so bigoted.[/QUOTE] Despite being bigoted, he does have a point, though.
[QUOTE=Jacinth;35382264]I can't say I understand completely. If I, a heterosexual guy, went down on a girl to find a disgusting looking vagina, I don't think I'd be able to claim anything because she didn't tell me that she had a terrible vagina. Later, if I went down to find a penis on someone I assumed to be biologically female, isn't that similar? I didn't think the genitals would matter. In either case it would have been nice to know, but that's no grounds to hit the person.[/QUOTE] If you go down on a girl and find out she has roast beef flaps, she's still a female and she still has female genitalia. What's different about the 2nd scenario is that he is a man, you can say he isn't on whichever emotional level you'd chose. The point is he has male genitalia, is scientifically/legally a man, and used deception to obtain sexual consent with another male who unlike him, was heterosexual. The fact that he used deception (dressed up like a women, acted like a women) to try and bed him, and placed his male genitalia onto his face is not consenting sex at all, but rather sexual assault.
[QUOTE=biodude94566;35382330]Despite being bigoted, he does have a point, though.[/QUOTE] How so? I really don't see how its consent by deception, I mean, she said she was a girl, and she is a girl, the thing is, she never said she had a vagina.
[QUOTE=biodude94566;35382330]Despite being bigoted, he does have a point, though.[/QUOTE] I'm not bigoted against people who claim to be transgender. Good for you, I hope you have a long and fulfilling life, regardless of whatever you are/where you come from. I just think that it's a pretty fucking disgusting act to lead someone into thinking you're something your not, then placing your genitalia on his face, and I simply will not give respect to someone who'd do such a vile thing.
[QUOTE=Weltmeister;35382336]If you go down on a girl and find out she has roast beef flaps, she's still a female and she still has female genitalia. What's different about the 2nd scenario is that he is a man, you can say he isn't on whichever emotional level you'd chose. The point is he has male genitalia, is scientifically/legally a man, and used deception to obtain sexual consent with another male who unlike him, was heterosexual. The fact that he used deception (dressed up like a women, acted like a women) to try and bed him, and placed his male genitalia onto his face is not consenting sex at all, but rather sexual assault.[/QUOTE] IN COMES THE BIGOT TRAIN WOOP WOOP [B]SHE[/B] said that [B]SHE[/B] was a woman, [B]SHE[/B] never said that [B]SHE[/B] had a vagina. Plus, [B]SHE[/B] wasn't actively attempting to make him believe [B]she[/B] was physically a woman, and no, wearing woman's clothing doesn't count.
-learn to use the proper instance of 'woman'-
[QUOTE=Weltmeister;35382351]I'm not bigoted against people who claim to be transgender. Good for you, I hope you have a long and fulfilling life, regardless of whatever you are/where you come from. I just think that it's a pretty fucking disgusting act to lead someone into thinking you're something your not, then placing your genitalia on his face, and I simply will not give respect to someone who'd do such a vile thing.[/QUOTE] oh my god she meets him, he meets her they like eachother, get close to eachother she tells him about herself, vice versa, etc. they end up about to have sex, she has a penis, so he punches her Because clearly having a penis while being a woman is illegal, right? [/sarcasm] Also, if you want to be taken seriously by anyone here in this argument, start calling her a woman, and not a homosexual guy
[QUOTE=hoodoo456;35382342]How so? I really don't see how its consent by deception, I mean, she said she was a girl, and she is a girl, the thing is, she never said she had a vagina.[/QUOTE] NO NO NO NO NO! What are you not getting? Females have vaginas and breasts, those are their sexual organs. Males have penises. You can't just claim to be female, and lead someone onto thinking you are female (atleast on a physical level) and HAVE MALE REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS. That's just not how it works and you need to accept that.
[QUOTE=hoodoo456;35382342]How so? I really don't see how its consent by deception, I mean, she said she was a girl, and she is a girl, the thing is, she never said she had a vagina.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately, that whole area is a very large grey area and you can't really make one catch-all. She said she's a girl, which, yes, she's a girl. A [i]trans[/i]girl. She more than likely led him on as being a [i]cis[/i]girl which is where deception starts coming in. Tag on top of that the fact that she apparently "slapped him in the face with her dick" and you've got a lot of things pointing against her. [QUOTE=Weltmeister;35382351]I'm not bigoted against people who claim to be transgender. Good for you, I hope you have a long and fulfilling life, regardless of whatever you are/where you come from. I just think that it's a pretty fucking disgusting act to lead someone into thinking you're something your not, then placing your genitalia on his face, and I simply will not give respect to someone who'd do such a vile thing.[/QUOTE] It's not that you're being bigoted against transgendered folk, it's that you're being bigoted in the way you're talking about it. You're refusing to accept that this person would be transgendered, and instead sticking simply to the fact that they're biologically male whether or not they want to be socially accepted as female. It's not our call to make on whether or not this person is male or female.[QUOTE=hoodoo456;35382355]IN COMES THE BIGOT TRAIN WOOP WOOP [B]SHE[/B] said that [B]SHE[/B] was a woman, [B]SHE[/B] never said that [B]SHE[/B] had a vagina. Plus, [B]SHE[/B] wasn't actively attempting to make him believe [B]she[/B] was physically a woman, and no, wearing woman's clothing doesn't count.[/QUOTE] Calm. Please.
ffs this argument is still going... Why don't you guys discuss each other's hair or something, for a change? I would post a pic but am a paranoid about my face being on the internets. [QUOTE=Anna Banana;35380767][img]http://i.imgur.com/rHuow.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] This be sexy hair. how is your body? :v:
[QUOTE=Weltmeister;35382383]NO NO NO NO NO! What are you not getting? Females have vaginas and breasts, those are their sexual organs. Males have penises. You can't just claim to be female, and lead someone onto thinking you are female (atleast on a physical level) and HAVE MALE REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS. That's just not how it works and you need to accept that.[/QUOTE] she never decieved him into thinking she had a vagina, no matter how much you want her to have. [editline]1st April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=biodude94566;35382387]Unfortunately, that whole area is a very large grey area and you can't really make one catch-all. She said she's a girl, which, yes, she's a girl. A [i]trans[/i]girl. She more than likely led him on as being a [i]cis[/i]girl which is where deception starts coming in. Tag on top of that the fact that she apparently "slapped him in the face with her dick" and you've got a lot of things pointing against her. It's not that you're being bigoted against transgendered folk, it's that you're being bigoted in the way you're talking about it. You're refusing to accept that this person would be transgendered, and instead sticking simply to the fact that they're biologically male whether or not they want to be socially accepted as female. It's not our call to make on whether or not this person is male or female. Calm. Please.[/QUOTE] Ok, ok, sorry, I'll just leave the argument now, I don't think I'm really helping anyways.
[QUOTE=Weltmeister;35382383]NO NO NO NO NO! What are you not getting? Females have vaginas and breasts, those are their sexual organs. Males have penises. You can't just claim to be female, and lead someone onto thinking you are female (atleast on a physical level) and HAVE MALE REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS. That's just not how it works and you need to accept that.[/QUOTE] And this is where your bigotry is coming in to play again. You're grouping any pre-op transsexual as their pre-op gender, whether or not they want to eventually go through SRS. This is what needs to stop. Not everyone is going to go through SRS, but that doesn't instantly invalidate their being transsexual.
[QUOTE=Weltmeister;35382383]NO NO NO NO NO! What are you not getting? Females have vaginas and breasts, those are their sexual organs. Males have penises. You can't just claim to be female, and lead someone onto thinking you are female (atleast on a physical level) and HAVE MALE REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS. That's just not how it works and you need to accept that.[/QUOTE] lol, so you're stating that I'm a guy nice one.
[QUOTE=Anna Banana;35380767]I had my hair done the other day. I'm really self-conscious about it all. Not sure if I like it or not yet :/ :/ [img]http://i.imgur.com/rHuow.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] oh, also, wanna point out - you have pretty eyes c:
[QUOTE=biodude94566;35382387]It's not that you're being bigoted against transgendered folk, it's that you're being bigoted in the way you're talking about it. You're refusing to accept that this person would be transgendered, and instead sticking simply to the fact that they're biologically male whether or not they want to be socially accepted as female. It's not our call to make on whether or not this person is male or female.[/QUOTE] Well apologies, I'm just speaking in the legal sense. I don't have a problem if you classify yourself as a female, but I'm sure that won't hold up in court for his actions.
-why bother-
[QUOTE=Weltmeister;35382410]Well apologies, I'm just speaking in the legal sense. I don't have a problem if you classify yourself as a female, but I'm sure that won't hold up in court for his actions.[/QUOTE] Sorry, I know I said I'd stop, but I'd like to say one last thing In the future, please, regardless of the legal sense, call trans-girls by female pronouns, please? it would really make you look a lot less bigoted if you did.
[QUOTE=Rammlied;35195863][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyNWf_kvW44&feature=related[/media][/QUOTE] Amazing.
[QUOTE=hoodoo456;35382395]she never decieved him into thinking she had a vagina, no matter how much you want her to have.[/QUOTE] Dude, if you're a crossdresser, and you lead someone into thinking you're heterosexual women, then OF COURSE THEY'LL ASSUME YOU HAVE A VAGINA. I hate to break it to you but being transgender puts you into an extreme minority group. I don't think very many men/women will account for that with every partner, thus it will come with responsibilities, just like alot of things in life. Giving someone a heads up is your job, sort of like someone who has a venereal disease ([U]not at all saying transgenderism is a disease here[/U]), it's your job to not spread whatever disease that may be, not the other person who is totally unaware of it. [QUOTE=biodude94566;35382402]And this is where your bigotry is coming in to play again. You're grouping any pre-op transsexual as their pre-op gender, whether or not they want to eventually go through SRS. This is what needs to stop. Not everyone is going to go through SRS, but that doesn't instantly invalidate their being transsexual.[/QUOTE] Welp [QUOTE=HorizoN;35382407]lol, so you're stating that I'm a guy nice one.[/QUOTE] Okay then, so you're transgender, and you have a penis. Would you try to start a relationship with a straight guy and just not mention the whole you have a penis thing and think he'll be fine with it?
[QUOTE=Weltmeister;35382490]Dude, if you're a crossdresser, and you lead someone into thinking you're heterosexual women, then OF COURSE THEY'LL ASSUME YOU HAVE A VAGINA. I hate to break it to you but being transgender puts you into an extreme minority group. I don't think very many men/women will account for that. Giving someone a heads up is your job, sort of like someone who has a venereal disease ([U]not at all saying transgenderism is a disease here[/U]), it's your job to not spread whatever disease that may be, not the other person who is totally unaware of it. Welp Okay then, so you're transgender, and you have a penis. Would you try to start a relationship with a straight guy and just not mention the whole you have a penis thing and think he'll be fine with it?[/QUOTE] Please - just leave it. This goes for anyone else replying. Just take it to PM's already.
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I would totally date a lesbian Also, if I do ever take up HRT and do all that fun stuff, I don't think I'd get SRS.
Personally I prefer the more "elaborate" things like: [img]http://www.apnimarzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/MaureenMK4July.jpg[/img] Though obviously that stuff costs a ton...
[QUOTE=HorizoN;35382550]Plus, I'm planning on getting SRS anyway, so I won't have a penis forever![/QUOTE] I hope that works out well for you then.
[QUOTE=slayer20;35382596]Also, if I do ever take up HRT and do all that fun stuff, I don't think I'd get SRS.[/QUOTE] Yeah, same. Most trans prefer having a totally feminine body, with operations and all. I personally find a chick with a dick to be the hottest of both genres. :v:
Wow, over 50 new posts and it's all arguments. I expected actual content. Please, everyone... just... stop.
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