[QUOTE=.FLAP.JACK.DAN.;35223480]Really? Eh I didn't know that.[/QUOTE]
So how will an ingrown hair hurt more?
lol u mad bro?
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Should be a personal decision when you're able to make it, not mandatory as a baby unless there is a serious condition that makes it necessary.
I do wonder though, are hospitals required to get consent from parents or can they just do it? And if they did could you sue?
Whats the reason for this bullshit anyway? Why do people think cutting young kids dicks is a good idea?
[QUOTE=l l;35228815]Should be a personal decision when you're able to make it, not mandatory as a baby unless there is a serious condition that makes it necessary.
I do wonder though, are hospitals required to get consent from parents or can they just do it? And if they did could you sue?[/QUOTE]
They need parents consent.
The hospitals only go through the "benefits" though, patents usually don't know any better.
[QUOTE=Fivas;35230277]They need parents consent.
The hospitals only go through the "benefits" though, patents usually don't know any better.[/QUOTE]
That's because there are no real negatives. The only thing people here have listed is the "lack of sensitivity," but to a person who has always been circumcised this means nothing.
I had an incomplete circumcision when i was a baby, it now hurts like fuck to jerk off with lube, and i need to put lotion on it to prevent it from drying and chapping .
[QUOTE=zombini;35239313]I had an incomplete circumcision when i was a baby, it now hurts like fuck to jerk off with lube, and i need to put lotion on it to prevent it from drying and chapping .[/QUOTE]
Could you explain more about your procedure? Did they not finish it up?
Uncut cocks are insanely hot, though not as hot when it's an extreme amount of foreskin (personally I don't think it's that bad but if we are being picky I'd prefer a modest amount).
how the fuck will any preteen girl want to give my son head if he has a noticeable piece of skin to choke on?
[QUOTE=Fivas;35239639]Could you explain more about your procedure? Did they not finish it up?[/QUOTE]
They either didn't cut enough off, or they cut too much off. My dick is insensitive when dry, but the instant lube touches it, it's overwhelming.
Whoah.
The infamous Facepunch acorn dick vs anteater dick debate thread finally has a proper place :v:
[QUOTE=Folgergeist;35241143]Whoah.
The infamous Facepunch acorn dick vs anteater dick debate thread finally has a proper place :v:[/QUOTE]
I've never understood the ant eater thing, it looks nothing like an ant eater.
[QUOTE=stupid10er;35239848]how the fuck will any preteen girl want to give my son head if he has a noticeable piece of skin to choke on?[/QUOTE]
Well I'll ignore the pre-teen comment and say that when erect the skin will be rolled back and it'll look relatively the same as a cut penis. The only difference being the huge pleasure difference for the natural guy.
[QUOTE=SeventeenDicks;35161992]Explain the appendix to me.[/QUOTE]
The appendix has shrunk to a tiny worm.
After some research it seems like the idea of having circumcision decrease sexual pleasure isn't even proven. For ever study showing statistical significance in one direction there's another study showing the opposite.
Gotta love the American doctors who always bring up the benefit of preventing STDS when America dwarfs every single uncut nation in the west as far as HIV percentages go. Even the nations that are statisticaly in worse off conditions than America, The US still trumps even those countries HIV rates, LOL.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;35245717]I've never understood the ant eater thing, it looks nothing like an ant eater.[/QUOTE]
True, i think people believe all uncut cocks look like the extreme droopy foreskin ones. I don't have droopy foreskin at all.
[QUOTE=SeventeenDicks;35161992]Explain the appendix to me.[/QUOTE]
Not comparable in the slightest, the foreskin is not useless and still has a purpose.
Also, coming from a cock lover, I think uncut cocks look better than cut cocks.
Being circumcised, I don't see any reason other than aesthetic to remove the foreskin. I mean, it really doesn't matter when erect anyhow, there's not much difference, and since it increases stimulation, then y'know. Cost and benefits and benefits seem to overtake.
I mean, I've never actually seen, in person, an uncut penis, but I'm not weirder out by it. Fars I see, there's no reason to remove it. And if you want to, then you can do it once you're older- your parents don't need to make that decision.
But it's not like having a cut cock is bad or anything. Just not the best.
[QUOTE=Hellstrom;35279652]Gotta love the American doctors who always bring up the benefit of preventing STDS when America dwarfs every single uncut nation in the west as far as HIV percentages go. Even the nations that are statisticaly in worse off conditions than America, The US still trumps even those countries HIV rates, LOL.
True, i think people believe all uncut cocks look like the extreme droopy foreskin ones. I don't have droopy foreskin at all.
Not comparable in the slightest, the foreskin is not useless and still has a purpose.[/QUOTE]
No it doesn't.
[QUOTE=Sickle;35339775]No it doesn't.[/QUOTE]
Great argument,
If we don't need an appendix, why don't we just remove it from everyone? Procedures of any kind can have complications and generally if you don't need to have them done then it's best not to pursue them. I really don't see the point in doing something like this in a first world country, I don't know whether it's a cosmetic thing or a traditional thing, it just seems really pointless and silly to me.
The foreskin obviously does have a purpose and isn't redundant in the way that an appendix is, it's full of nerve endings and protects the head from becoming desensitized.
I personally think that it should only be done if its really necessary. It might be more difficult to get STDs if you're chopped but you're stupid if you sleep with people you don't know and don't use a condom, so that argument is pointless. As for lasting longer in bed, that just comes with experience (no pun intended lol).
It is rooted in religion. In religion, everything connected with the body, aimed at improving health. In hygienic purposes, circumcision is preferable. Even in the 21st century are, to put it mildly,not always very clean individuals). So this is for someone true to this day, I suppose). This is the root cause, of everything else (such as aesthetic appearance, duration of sex, etc.) were added as we approach the 21st century. But in fact, hygiene is a component of the sole purpose of this action. P.S. Sorry for bad English
[QUOTE=Fivas;35204307]My suggestion: leave your son's penis the way it should be[/QUOTE]
People get tattoos, plastic surgery, piercings, etc... is that wrong? These things aren't even cultural practices, so don't even try to glorify them anymore than you would circumcision.
Technically, tattoos and piercings [I]could[/I] be considered a cultural practice, but lets be realistic - most people that get tattoos or piercings aren't from a bloodline that has had that in their culture.
How is circumcision any different, and why is this a repetitive topic I see on all message-boards?
If a parent does it against their child's will, then it is the parent's fault, and there is no reason to condemn a cultural practice.
You might see it as mutilation, but many people who are circumcised are happy about it, and they could care less. Many people in this thread have said they are fine with it, and some will say they are happy about it.
There are pros and cons to it, and I'd never vote to make it illegal:
[url]http://www.circumcision.org/advocates.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Riller;35218351]Sawed off pump action here. Got snipped when I was about 11, 'cause my dick was too big to fit in my foreskin if I were to have an erection. I don't mind it much, makes it easier to convince people I'm jewish so I can win arguments by claiming antisemitism whenever it doesn't go my way.[/QUOTE]
Well, when you argue with people, do you generally have your willy hanging out in the wind? If not, I fail to see how they would know you're jewish. Also, it's not only a Jewish practice, Christians do it too.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];35337825']Being circumcised, I don't see any reason other than aesthetic to remove the foreskin. I mean, it really doesn't matter when erect anyhow, there's not much difference, and since it increases stimulation, then y'know. Cost and benefits and benefits seem to overtake.
I mean, I've never actually seen, in person, an uncut penis, but I'm not weirder out by it. Fars I see, there's no reason to remove it. And if you want to, then you can do it once you're older- your parents don't need to make that decision.
But it's not like having a cut cock is bad or anything. Just not the best.[/QUOTE]
In the link I posted above, the text emphasizes that there are several hygienic benefits, and in America some women do have a preference.
Another possible benefit that isn't concisely backed is that it can help prevent penile cancer - which would make sense, since cancer is characterized by an overgrowth of cells. By removing cells, you could lower chances.
[QUOTE=The Anarchist;35364995]
Another possible benefit that isn't concisely backed is that it can help prevent penile cancer - which would make sense, since cancer is characterized by an overgrowth of cells. By removing cells, you could lower chances.[/QUOTE]
"In weighing the risks and benefits of circumcision, doctors consider the fact that penile cancer is very uncommon in the United States, even among uncircumcised men. Neither the American Academy of Pediatrics nor the Canadian Academy of Pediatrics recommends routine circumcision of newborns. In the end, decisions about circumcision are highly personal and depend more on social and religious factors than on medical evidence."
[url]http://www.cancer.org/Cancer/PenileCancer/DetailedGuide/penile-cancer-risk-factors[/url]
If [I]medical science[/I] in some of the world's most developed countries say you don't need to do it, why do you keep doing?
If you're too lazy to pull back your foreskin and wash under it in the shower you don't deserve to have a penis. I'm not going to rip the hair out of my scalp because it takes more time to wash it.
[QUOTE=The Anarchist;35364995]People get tattoos, plastic surgery, piercings, etc... is that wrong? These things aren't even cultural practices, so don't even try to glorify them anymore than you would circumcision.
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So you think its okay if some kid has to get tattooed if it was his culture? What if he doesnt want a tattoo, he's just fucked? Same with circumcision, its a mutilation that should not be [B]forced [/B]upon anyone. (unless for medical reasons)
[QUOTE=The Anarchist;35364995]If a parent does it against their child's will, then it is the parent's fault, and there is no reason to condemn a cultural practice. [/QUOTE]
Errr... So if it were a cultural practice to remove your left eyeball, it would be okay?
[QUOTE=The Anarchist;35364995]You might see it as mutilation, but many people who are circumcised are happy about it, and they could care less. Many people in this thread have said they are fine with it, and some will say they are happy about it.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't matter if one is happy or not with his mutilation, its still a mutilation, and a kid who cant even walk isn't going to know if he may or may not be happy about it in 20 years, I think if most people waited until 18 to circumcise, then a lot fewer people would do it.
[QUOTE=The Anarchist;35364995]In the link I posted above, the text emphasizes that there are several hygienic benefits[/QUOTE]
Hey! I've got an idea! Lets cut off our arms so we don't have to clean our armpits! Seriously, this was a legit reason 2000 years ago in the desert with no access to washing water and soap.
[QUOTE=The Anarchist;35364995]Another possible benefit that isn't concisely backed is that it can help prevent penile cancer - which would make sense, since cancer is characterized by an overgrowth of cells. By removing cells, you could lower chances.[/QUOTE]
Great idea! Lets lower women's breast cancer rate by 50% by removing one of their breasts!
[QUOTE=The Anarchist;35364995]People get tattoos, plastic surgery, piercings, etc... is that wrong? These things aren't even cultural practices, so don't even try to glorify them anymore than you would circumcision.
Technically, tattoos and piercings [I]could[/I] be considered a cultural practice, but lets be realistic - most people that get tattoos or piercings aren't from a bloodline that has had that in their culture.[/QUOTE]
And people who get tattooed/pierced decide to get tattooed/pierced, its all about choice. There's nothing inherently wrong with circumcision but it should really only be done unless its necessary or the person who owns the cock wants it done for whatever reason.
I love my foreskin.
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[QUOTE=The Anarchist;35364995]Another possible benefit that isn't concisely backed is that it can help prevent penile cancer - which would make sense, since cancer is characterized by an overgrowth of cells. By removing cells, you could lower chances.[/QUOTE]
Cut off your entire dick them
I was circumcised at birth, I don't see anything wrong with it. In my opinion from what I've heard I would have opted to be circumcised later down the track anyways, it's just good that I don't have to go through the awkwardness of doing it now. I have no memory of it happening thankfully and to be honest the thought of just sitting there while the doctor snips away at your penis with scissors scares me, so I probably wouldn't go through it if I wanted it.
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