• Does my religion have a name?
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[QUOTE=Beelzebub;41883427]id say being afraid of god is a p.good indication of faith. if one doesn't believe or have faith then why be afraid?[/QUOTE] Exactly!
[QUOTE=Beelzebub;41883427]id say being afraid of god is a p.good indication of faith. if one doesn't believe or have faith then why be afraid?[/QUOTE] He's not being afraid of god, he's being afraid of the fact that god might not exist
[QUOTE=Slowbro;41883443]He's not being afraid of god, he's being afraid of the fact that god might not exist[/QUOTE] No, I'm afraid of what will happen if God's real and I don't believe in him.
[QUOTE=Beelzebub;41883427]id say being afraid of god is a p.good indication of faith. if one doesn't believe or have faith then why be afraid?[/QUOTE] its more about the fear of being wrong [QUOTE=DualWeild;41883456]No, I'm afraid of what will happen if God's real and I don't believe in him.[/QUOTE] except you can't just force yourself to believe in something and thats the entire point lol you just convince yourself you "Believe" its just a giant pseudo facade to protect yourself from the idea that you will not believe and just go to hell because of so. it's also a delusion that many religious have that god is a giant vengeful douche, why would he be anything but friendly?
[QUOTE=DualWeild;41883456]No, I'm afraid of what will happen if God's real and I don't believe in him.[/QUOTE]Aren't you afraid of what will happen if magic is real and you don't believe in it?
[QUOTE=Beelzebub;41883427]id say being afraid of god is a p.good indication of faith. if one doesn't believe or have faith then why be afraid?[/QUOTE] Having faith is accepting that you may very well be wrong but you have the faith the persevere in your beliefs in the face of that possibility. Faith is meant to be challenged. A true faith is believing something [B]even though[/B] you may be wrong. He's believing something [B]because [/B]he may be wrong. Fear strengthens faith, but it doesn't create it. His fear is forcing him into a belief, when it should be your belief forcing you over your fear.
[QUOTE=J!NX;41883459]its more about the fear of being wrong except you can't just force yourself to believe in something and thats the entire point lol you just convince yourself you "Believe"[/QUOTE] Well, this thread's gotten popular. I will no longer be posting on it since only a few people have actually been helpful.
[QUOTE=DualWeild;41883496]Well, this thread's gotten popular. I will no longer be posting on it since only a few people have actually been helpful.[/QUOTE] You're 14, you're obviously simply trying to label what you are in terms of religion and discussing it will help further your knowledge of it and thus establish a religious identity within the community of whatever you are. [QUOTE=Skyward;41883492]Having faith is accepting that you may very well be wrong but you have the faith the persevere in your beliefs in the face of that possibility. Faith is meant to be challenged. A true faith is believing something [B]even though[/B] you may be wrong. He's believing something [B]because [/B]he may be wrong. His fear is forcing him into a belief, when it should be your belief forcing you over your fear.[/QUOTE] its the same as a homosexual being forced into homophobia out of fear of being alienated or something they know they are but can't accept ok maybe its not that much like that but close enough
[QUOTE=DualWeild;41883456]No, I'm afraid of what will happen if God's real and I don't believe in him.[/QUOTE] You've said this a dozen times and each time we've tried to explain that is not how belief works. And yet you continue to brush us aside. For fuck's sake why make this thread if you don't like the answers you're going to get? Believe it or not, sometimes you won't like the answers to your questions. And you need to accept it, not ignore it. That's how people learn. You're not going to go anywhere in life if you expect everyone to pussy up to you and say you're right all the time.
[QUOTE=DualWeild;41883496]Well, this thread's gotten popular. I will no longer be posting on it since only a few people have actually been helpful.[/QUOTE] Quit being such a child, you are only saying this because you're in a losing argument.
[QUOTE=Skyward;41883509]You've said this a dozen times and each time we've tried to explain that is not how belief works. And yet you continue to brush us aside. For fuck's sake why make this thread if you don't like the answers you're going to get? Believe it or not, sometimes you won't like the answers to your questions. And you need to accept it, not ignore it.[/QUOTE] there really is no answer to his question, only a question about what he actually truly is thus, debating was born :v: I really really hope OP can solidly develop a religious identity.
[QUOTE=Priori;41883515]Quit being such a child, you are only saying this because you're in a losing argument.[/QUOTE] Umm, if you'd read an earlier post of mine I AM a child... had to post to point that out. And no, I'm not stopping because of that, I'm stopping because no one will actually answer the question in the OP.
[QUOTE=DualWeild;41883456]No, I'm afraid of what will happen if God's real and I don't believe in him.[/QUOTE] The fact that you're even questioning whether or not there even is a god just proves your so-called "faith" isn't real. The second you begin to question whether or not something exists, you no longer have faith in it.
[QUOTE=DualWeild;41883559]Umm, if you'd read an earlier post of mine I AM a child... had to post to point that out. And no, I'm not stopping because of that, I'm stopping because no one will actually answer the question in the OP.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't consider 14 a child just an early teen, you can make your own decisions after all 11 and under, that's a child
[QUOTE=DualWeild;41883559]Umm, if you'd read an earlier post of mine I AM a child... had to post to point that out. And no, I'm not stopping because of that, I'm stopping because no one will actually answer the question in the OP.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I don't believe most 14 year olds would want to be treated like children. But I guess you do? I already posted that its Religious pluralism, its not a religion, its an attitude. My guess is you're agnostic theist, if anything. You haven't really said what you believe other than "I think theres a god"
[QUOTE=ILY;41883321]What you're doing isn't faith at all, it's just attempting to cover all bases. Go big or go home[/QUOTE] Covering all the bases is Impossible when it comes to faith and religion.
Either way, if you are not a mindless puppet who unquestionably believes everything the religion teaches, you will go to hell. On top of that, a lot of religions have been modified by some people to make it more relevant. There are also thousands of variations of each religion, and there is no telling of which religion is correct. You are taking a chance believing any religion either way. What if you believe in the Christian God and you go by every teaching in the Bible, and it turns out that Mormons were correct all along? What if Muslims are correct, and it is truly the duty of every person to get rid of infidels? Essentially, it's like taking a 1000-round revolver, loading it with 999 bullets, putting it to your temple and pulling the trigger. The smartest choice is not to play. Also, any fair and reasonable God would forgive everyone for not believing in him, because he would understand. If God is unreasonable and unfair, then why believe in him in the first place?
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41883613]Covering all the bases is Impossible when it comes to faith and religion.[/QUOTE] That's why he said attempting.
[QUOTE=Bumbanut;41883619]Either way, if you are not a mindless puppet who unquestionably believes everything the religion teaches, you will go to hell. On top of that, a lot of religions have been modified by some people to make it more relevant. There are also thousands of variations of each religion, and there is no telling of which religion is correct. You are taking a chance believing any religion either way. What if you believe in the Christian God and you go by every teaching in the Bible, and it turns out that Mormons were correct all along? What if Muslims are correct, and it is truly the duty of every person to get rid of infidels? Essentially, it's like taking a 1000-round revolver, loading it with 999 bullets, putting it to your temple and pulling the trigger. The smartest choice is not to play. Also, any fair and reasonable God would forgive everyone for not believing in him, because he would understand. If God is unreasonable and unfair, then why believe in him in the first place?[/QUOTE] what if south park is true man we're [B]fucked[/B]
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41883613]Covering all the bases is Impossible when it comes to faith and religion.[/QUOTE] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d0/Futurama_-_First_Amalgamated_Church.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=J!NX;41883633]what if south park is true man we're [B]fucked[/B][/QUOTE]I'm glad someone got the reference.
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To clarify: "Atheism" comes from the Greek word "theism", meaning "God", and the prefix "a", meaning "without". Atheism is not a religion, but rather a disbelief in God. You can technically be religious and still be an atheist.
[QUOTE=Bumbanut;41883703]To clarify: "Atheism" comes from the Greek word "theism", meaning "God", and the prefix "a", meaning "without". Atheism is not a religion, but rather a disbelief in God. You can technically be religious and still be an atheist.[/QUOTE] Exactly. [I]...a religion, with clearly defined rules, eschatology and a philosophy by which to live. Religion is a means of understanding our existence.[/I] Atheism has one rule and that is to not believe in any sort of god, simple as that.
[QUOTE=DualWeild;41883054]Atheism is idiocy. I belive in God just in case, if he's not real, he's not real. I've got nothing to lose by believing in a God.[/QUOTE] Just in case you need the password to his tree house heh?
To quote Hot Fuzz, "I'm open to the concept of religion, I'm just not entirely convinced by it."
[QUOTE=DualWeild;41883310]Just answer the damn question or get off the thread please. I should've used yahoo answers or something.[/QUOTE] Your question has already been answered, and you completely ignored it.
[QUOTE=dass;41883869]Just in case you need the password to his tree house heh?[/QUOTE] God: "lol no fuck off you lied to me"
[QUOTE=DualWeild;41883268]I belive in God because it makes me feel secure, it makes me happy, and I've got nothing to lose by it.[/QUOTE] Really? What if the God that actually exists only sends atheists to Heaven and everyone else to Hell? Oh shit, turns out Pascal's wager works both ways eh?
if god was real he'd be the most egotistical cunt in the history of the universe aside from phil fish maybe
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