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Is there even a feature of noir it didn't contain?[/QUOTE]
Watch The Conversation.
Come back and tell me why it's not noir.
I'd place The Conversation more in the thriller category. One reason is I think noir movies have to have the protagonist getting deeply involved with other people in the plot.
In The Conversation, the protagonist gets caught up in the plot but he doesn't get caught up with the people, if you get what I'm trying to say. He is sort of outside of it all personally, while still being trapped inside existentially.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;30244584]
In The Conversation, the protagonist gets caught up in the plot but he doesn't get caught up with the people, if you get what I'm trying to say. He is sort of outside of it all personally, while still being trapped inside existentially.[/QUOTE]
I'm not... entirely sure I get you.
Fair enough the main character is more at war with himself, but it's all relative style-wise.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pDJx8zPKBM[/media]
Scene in question. He changed the soundtrack...........
Blood Simple
Blade Runner
L.A. Confidential
[QUOTE=AK'z;30244729]I'm not... entirely sure I get you.
Fair enough the main character is more at war with himself, but it's all relative style-wise.[/QUOTE]
I think that The Conversation shares a certain gritty visual style you can see in a lot of early 70s movies. It's just the way they made movies back then. The French Connection, The Taking of Pelham One Two Three- lots of movies looked that way and they weren't anything more than crime dramas.
I didn't like the Conversation. I wanted to like it so I could be all cool and like 'hey no one ever talks about Coppola's underrated movie' but it just didn't hold up for me. I think I'm too used to Gene Hackman going batshit and shooting people he shouldn't be shooting.
Chinatown is a damn good movie.
Fuck, I forgot about that one.^
[QUOTE=Publius;30282589]I didn't like the Conversation. I wanted to like it so I could be all cool and like 'hey no one ever talks about Coppola's underrated movie' but it just didn't hold up for me. I think I'm too used to Gene Hackman going batshit and shooting people he shouldn't be shooting.[/QUOTE]
Requires a revisit.
and yes, I'm with you on the Gene Hackman thing. :iia:
Definitely requires a revisit at some point. I usually wait years though. Just in case.
Just got a great DVD in the post. [B]Farewell My Lovely[/B], 1975. It's a classic noir made in the 70s in the same way that Chinatown is. Stars Robert Mitchum as Philip Marlowe (the same character from The Big Sleep and The Long Goodbye).
[QUOTE=Publius;30310112]Definitely requires a revisit at some point. I usually wait years though. Just in case.
Just got a great DVD in the post. [B]Farewell My Lovely[/B], 1975. It's a classic noir made in the 70s in the same way that Chinatown is. Stars Robert Mitchum as Philip Marlowe (the same character from The Big Sleep and The Long Goodbye).[/QUOTE]
Didn't your avatar used to be animated? :frown:
[QUOTE=Publius;30310112]Definitely requires a revisit at some point. I usually wait years though. Just in case.
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I've seen it a dozen times, but on probably the third watch, the concept and style really hit home. Also seeing deeper into the making of it helps.
I like doing that with a lot of movies, best ones being Alien and Apocalypse Now in terms of extra content.
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;30310374]Didn't your avatar used to be animated? :frown:[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately no :( it never worked. I wish it did, it looks cool.
[QUOTE=stepat201;30186459]L.A. Confidential is by far the most similar to L.A. Noire but it's also a bad film.
If you're looking for some fantastic earlier films that reflect the same styles, watch Double Indemnity, The Third Man, and The Big Sleep. Although the best film noir of all time is almost definitely Sunset Boulevard (it's not really about crime though).[/QUOTE]
What the fuck, LA Confidential is fantastic.
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