• Do you support democracy in the middle east? If so, you support your own extinction
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[QUOTE=Lamar;28568389]I'm a realist. People in 1st world countries just haven't been able to live in the survivalist mentality long enough, to truly understand.[/QUOTE] "Sensationalist" and "Realist" are two very different things, and your ideas seem to fit the former much more.
[QUOTE=Lamar;28568315]Actually I have plenty enough of exposure to the real word, enough to actually fear it, unlike most ungrateful 1st worlders.[/QUOTE] Sounds like you're the ungrateful first worlder "Ohhhh, $5 a gallon! How bad is that, we should leave tyrannical dictators in power so I don't have to spend an extra $20 a month on gas, of which everyone else in the world is already doing!" I don't even have a car and I think you're an idiot. I work a $300/month job. The only nice things I have are outdated or broken somehow. Just because I hope someone in the Middle East has a life anywhere near as good as mine doesn't mean I support my own extinction. What exposure to the real world did you have? Unless you were thrown in India like that one guy was, you probably don't have "real world exposure."
[QUOTE=Lamar;28568389]I'm a realist. People in 1st world countries just haven't been able to live in the survivalist mentality long enough, to truly understand.[/QUOTE] Understand what? How to survive with high gas prices?
[QUOTE=archangel125;28568413]"Sensationalist" and "Realist" are two very different things, and your ideas seem to fit the former much more.[/QUOTE] I said survivalist, are you on the same page with me?
"every $10 increase in oil prices translates into a 25 cent increase per gallon. That, in turn, demands $25 billion in excess energy spending by American households, reducing economic growth by 0.2 percent" [url]http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/middle-east/110302/gas-prices-oil-OPEC[/url] I can understand where the economy is bad and everyone wants cheap gas as well as puppies, but I figure having a couple countries liberated would be so much more worth it.
[QUOTE=Lamar;28568422]I said survivalist, are you on the same page with me?[/QUOTE] I think the rest of us are more than a few pages ahead, actually. Fascist ideologies like yours are unbecoming of you, since it's clear that you'd rather not live under such a system yourself.
[QUOTE=Lamar;28568389]I'm a realist. People in 1st world countries just haven't been able to live in the survivalist mentality long enough, to truly understand.[/QUOTE] Everytime I think that you can't post worse... You actually do! Good job, man, you impress me. :buddy:
[QUOTE=Lamar;28568315]Actually I have plenty enough of exposure to the real word, enough to actually fear it, unlike most ungrateful 1st worlders.[/QUOTE] You would rather keep gas prices low instead of supporting the spread of democracy in the Middle East, and you're calling most of us ungrateful? I would laugh if this wasn't so idiotic.
[QUOTE=Lamar;28568422]I said survivalist, are you on the same page with me?[/QUOTE] Instead of writing an actual argument, you point out a mistyped word. Do you have an actual argument? Where is your evidence, all I see is sweeping generalizations without any support.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;28568462]Instead of writing an actual argument, you point out a mistyped word. Do you have an actual argument? Where is your evidence, all I see is sweeping generalizations without any support.[/QUOTE] Neither side really seems to have a point. Or an argument at all, really.
That is just because of capitalism. When the hordes of the oppressed masses rise up and form a glorious revolutionary government then we won't have this problem.
[QUOTE=GunFox;28568495]Neither side really seems to have a point. Or an argument at all, really.[/QUOTE] Liberal democracies promote free trade and increased investment, which in the medium to long term will lower oil prices.
[QUOTE=kayOkay;28567782]For fuck's sake people like OP are the reason why the world is going wrong... First off, oil prices only rise because, guess what, dictators want to scare idiots like you, OP, by burning them down and stopping production. This way you will go batshit insane and will protect them. And second, oil prices also rise because of fat capitalist pigs like you who speculate on gas and shit, and when they see stuff like this, they all go like "herp a derp oil gonna be rare! omg lets demand moar moneyz for teh risks~~". You should know that, arabian people know very well just how important selling oil is for their economy. And you should also know that dictators breed terrorists because it serves their purpose. It goes the same way as "I protect you from terrorists and you keep me in position." So believe me, without dictatorships all over the ME, YOUR life will be easier. Now stop sucking republican cocks and go think a little.[/QUOTE] Quoting myself because OP accidently "missed" this post. Come on, argue.
[QUOTE=PEn1s lol;28568509]That is just because of capitalism. When the hordes of the oppressed masses rise up and form a glorious revolutionary government then we won't have this problem.[/QUOTE] You're a terrible troll, 1/10 because I rated you dumb.
I could care less what middle eastern countries do as long as it doesn't threaten my country. I think the world would be better of if they just attacked each other and killed themselves off, they have been wanting to for thousands of years, they will not stop just because they dont have a dictator
[QUOTE=Contag;28568516]Liberal democracies promote free trade and increased investment, which in the medium to long term will lower oil prices.[/QUOTE] There have been debate about this since forever. Free market or interventionnism.
[QUOTE=assassin_Raptor;28568541]I could care less what middle eastern countries do as long as it doesn't threaten my country. I think the world would be better of if they just attacked each other and killed themselves off, they have been wanting to for thousands of years, they will not stop just because they dont have a dictator[/QUOTE] There's no 'retard' rating, so Dumb will have to do.
[QUOTE=assassin_Raptor;28568541]I could care less what middle eastern countries do as long as it doesn't threaten my country. I think the world would be better of if they just attacked each other and killed themselves off, they have been wanting to for thousands of years, they will not stop just because they dont have a dictator[/QUOTE] So speaks the assassin raptor.
[QUOTE=assassin_Raptor;28568541]I could care less what middle eastern countries do as long as it doesn't threaten my country. I think the world would be better of if they just attacked each other and killed themselves off, they have been wanting to for thousands of years, they will not stop just because they dont have a dictator[/QUOTE] People like you, scare me. "As long as I can't see what I'm doing to the environment I'm fine with it."
[QUOTE=assassin_Raptor;28568541]I could care less what middle eastern countries do as long as it doesn't threaten my country. I think the world would be better of if they just attacked each other and killed themselves off, they have been wanting to for thousands of years, they will not stop just because they dont have a dictator[/QUOTE] So you don't care about innocent people dying as long as it doesn't affect your perfect little life? People like you make me sick.
luckily im in the middle east
[QUOTE=assassin_Raptor;28568541]I could care less what middle eastern countries do as long as it doesn't threaten my country. I think the world would be better of if they just attacked each other and killed themselves off, they have been wanting to for thousands of years, they will not stop just because they dont have a dictator[/QUOTE] So your fine with the death of human beings as long as it doesn't involve you? Jesus, what the fuck is wrong with people these days?
The fact that they savagely want to destroy the western world makes me sick, the middle east is so religiously and militarily unstable, all they want to do is destroy each other over fucking Jerusalem.
[QUOTE=GunFox;28568357]The goddamn Canadians are hiding it! [i]I KNEW IT.[/i] We're on to you, Canada.[/QUOTE] Good luck getting it! We hid it in the sand! ahahahaha
[QUOTE=assassin_Raptor;28568690]The fact that they savagely want to destroy the western world makes me sick, the middle east is so religiously and militarily unstable, all they want to do is destroy each other over fucking Jerusalem.[/QUOTE] You are such an ignorant, generalizing fuckwit. I can't even comprehend how stupid you are.
[QUOTE=assassin_Raptor;28568690]The fact that they savagely want to destroy the western world makes me sick, the middle east is so religiously and militarily unstable, all they want to do is destroy each other over fucking Jerusalem.[/QUOTE] [quote]militarily unstable[/quote] I can't imagine why. Yes, everyone in the Middle East and North Africa want to destroy the entirety of the Western world. Jesus christ what the fuck is wrong with people like you. The world isn't fucking black and white.
[QUOTE=Contag;28568516]Liberal democracies promote free trade and increased investment, which in the medium to long term will lower oil prices.[/QUOTE] That applies to most natural resources, however oil, due to the extremely small amount of manpower necessary to harvest it, is the exception. Chances are, it will increase oil prices because a democratic nation will recognize the need to produce extreme amounts of infrastructure in order to raise the quality of life for its occupants and keep the nation economically viable beyond the life of its oil reserves. Now this is a good thing, but make no mistake, it will raise oil prices significantly. Infrastructure is expensive as fuck. Dubai would be a prime example. Dubai is basically a shithole that figured out that if you sink enough money into a location, even somewhere with backwards laws and fucking horrendous weather, you can make it a tourist attraction. This requires RIDICULOUS sums of money to accomplish it.
[QUOTE=assassin_Raptor;28568690]The fact that they savagely want to destroy the western world makes me sick, the middle east is so religiously and militarily unstable, all they want to do is destroy each other over fucking Jerusalem.[/QUOTE] Have more boxes. You don't know the first thing about what the Israel-Palestine conflict is about, and you obviously know even less about Middle-Eastern people. To you, they're all 'savages that love to kill people and hate the west' for no good reason. Go hang yourself and I hope to god you've never reproduced.
[QUOTE=GunFox;28568720]That applies to most natural resources, however oil, due to the extremely small amount of manpower necessary to harvest it, is the exception. Chances are, it will increase oil prices because a democratic nation will recognize the need to produce extreme amounts of infrastructure in order to raise the quality of life for its occupants and keep the nation economically viable beyond the life of its oil reserves. Now this is a good thing, but make no mistake, it will raise oil prices significantly. Infrastructure is expensive as fuck. Dubai would be a prime example. Dubai is basically a shithole that figured out that if you sink enough money into a location, even somewhere with backwards laws and fucking horrendous weather, you can make it a tourist attraction. This requires RIDICULOUS sums of money to accomplish it.[/QUOTE] And it's failing as a profitable venture. Oil is profitable as fuck, so it works out in the end.
[quote=zeke129;28568712]good luck getting it! We hid it in the sand! Ahahahaha[/quote] damn you canadaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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