• Do you support democracy in the middle east? If so, you support your own extinction
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[QUOTE=assassin_Raptor;28568690]The fact that they savagely want to destroy the western world makes me sick, the middle east is so religiously and militarily unstable, all they want to do is destroy each other over fucking Jerusalem.[/QUOTE] 1. Not all of them hate each other 2. They're not fighting for religious freedom they're fighting to be free from tyrannical dictators 3. This had nothing to do with the subject at hand with gas correlation and the middle east.
[QUOTE=assassin_Raptor;28568690]The fact that they savagely want to destroy the western world makes me sick, the middle east is so religiously and militarily unstable, all they want to do is destroy each other over fucking Jerusalem.[/QUOTE] Way to judge hundreds of millions of people over a few extremists. Believe it or not, the entire population of the middle east does not want to destroy the west.
[QUOTE=CatFodder;28568776]Way to judge hundreds of millions of people over a few extremists. Believe it or not, the entire population of the middle east does not want to destroy the west.[/QUOTE] I don't think he will believe it. His mind doesn't seem to have the capacity to grasp such a complicated idea.
[QUOTE=archangel125;28568803]I don't think he will believe it. His mind doesn't seem to have the capacity to grasp such a complicated idea.[/QUOTE] Wait people, there is life outside my mother's basement?
[QUOTE=Contag;28568740]And it's failing as a profitable venture. Oil is profitable as fuck, so it works out in the end.[/QUOTE] If Dubai fails, then the middle east will likely fail as a whole and never be worth anyone's time. Dubai is basically one of the only places in the region that is strongly pushing money back into its economy to build up its profitability in the long term. If that fails, then nobody is going to be successful. By your logic, the only reasonable course of action is to forcibly take the oil. The EU and the United States will benefit strongly from the Oil and it will aid in producing a long term stable economy. The Middle East is apparently just buying time with it and is doomed to fail anyways. Why give the dictators the power that comes with oil money in mean time? Take the oil out of the equation and their corrupt governments lose power. Personally, I prefer to think that they (Democratic oil-based nations) will indeed be successful. There is no other happy outcome. If the oil money runs out, and they can't replace it, then it is an entire region of starving, well armed, and very angry people.
[QUOTE=archangel125;28568734] Go hang yourself and I hope to god you've never reproduced.[/QUOTE] What the hell is wrong with you?
[QUOTE=Lamar;28568843]What the hell is wrong with you?[/QUOTE] Hah, you're one to talk.
[QUOTE=Lamar;28568843]What the hell is wrong with you?[/QUOTE] That seemed like a normal response to assassin_Raptor's stupidity to me.
[QUOTE=Lamar;28567573]The people in the M.E deserve better than dictatorships, but their timing of overthrowing their governments, I must say have been incredibly inconvenient for us.. Middle-Eastern democracy at the expense of our already weakened economy? Is this why no action has been taken?[/QUOTE] These two statements make you sound like the biggest fucking asshole I've ever heard or met. Jesus fucking christ listen to yourself. You're putting the United States on a pedestal that doesn't exist. We're no better than any other nation, yet you act like the US is at the center of everyone's universe. We're NOT. And people like you need to get it through your thick skull that we are not the best thing since sliced bread. God damn, these people are fighting for equality, they're dying so their children can have a say in who runs their country, and you're bitching because it's making our gas cost more money. Boo fucking hoo! Should we have bowed down and let Britain rape us with taxes pre revolution because us revolting would have inconvenienced them? Should we have let the South win the civil war because we inconvenienced other nations by increasing the price of cotton, tobacco, and other things we exported from the South produced by Slavery? Get your head out of your ass and see the big fucking picture.
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;28568884]These two statements make you sound like the biggest fucking asshole I've ever heard or met. Jesus fucking christ listen to yourself. You're putting the United States on a pedestal that doesn't exist. We're no better than any other nation, yet you act like the US is at the center of everyone's universe. We're NOT. And people like you need to get it through your thick skull that we are not the best thing since sliced bread. God damn, these people are fighting for equality, they're dying so their children can have a say in who runs their country, and you're bitching because it's making our gas cost more money. Boo fucking hoo! Should we have bowed down and let Britain rape us with taxes pre revolution because us revolting would have inconvenienced them? Should we have let the South win the civil war because we inconvenienced other nations by increasing the price of cotton, tobacco, and other things we exported from the South produced by Slavery? Get your head out of your ass and see the big fucking picture.[/QUOTE] Can I carry your books to school? For like, the rest of my life?
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;28568884]These two statements make you sound like the biggest fucking asshole I've ever heard or met. Jesus fucking christ listen to yourself. You're putting the United States on a pedestal that doesn't exist. We're no better than any other nation, yet you act like the US is at the center of everyone's universe. We're NOT. And people like you need to get it through your thick skull that we are not the best thing since sliced bread. God damn, these people are fighting for equality, they're dying so their children can have a say in who runs their country, and you're bitching because it's making our gas cost more money. Boo fucking hoo! Should we have bowed down and let Britain rape us with taxes pre revolution because us revolting would have inconvenienced them? Should we have let the South win the civil war because we inconvenienced other nations by increasing the price of cotton, tobacco, and other things we exported from the South produced by Slavery? Get your head out of your ass and see the big fucking picture.[/QUOTE] Sir, that was well said and honestly well deserves both winner and agrees.
[QUOTE=Lamar;28568843]What the hell is wrong with you?[/QUOTE] :irony:
Sky rocketing gas prices might actually become a good thing. 6 USD a gallon could be the final push we need to convince the private sector to start developing clean, alternative forms of energy. Not that the private sector isn't already doing that. They're just not doing it on a massive, national scale.
According to Socrates, a democracy is the 3rd worst type of government.
[QUOTE=cqbcat;28569006]Sky rocketing gas prices might actually become a good thing. 6 USD a gallon could be the final push we need to convince the private sector to start developing clean, alternative forms of energy. Not that the private sector isn't already doing that. They're just not doing it on a massive, national scale.[/QUOTE] That's actually a very good point. The trouble is that the construction industry, the military and the aviation industry may not be able to run so well on electric energy, even if cars do. UNLESS they find a way to increase the efficiency of these energy sources to the point that becomes plausible.
[QUOTE=archangel125;28568910]Can I carry your books to school? For like, the rest of my life?[/QUOTE] I don't go to school anymore but you could take me out to dinner if you like. Nothing fancy. Burgers or something.
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;28569146]I don't go to school anymore but you could take me out to dinner if you like. Nothing fancy. Burgers or something.[/QUOTE] Would Big Kahuna Burger be a good venue?
I don't know if anyone's said this already but it seems to me that whether he believes what he says or not, Lamar's taken it on himself to keep arguing unpopular points to try and create debate. Though what he argues is often unpoluar for a reason, trying to create legitimate debate seems an admirable aim to me.
Maybe if your country didn't dump surplus wheat in the ocean they'd be able to trade that for oil? I dunno. :frog:
[QUOTE=ThisGuy0;28569166]I don't know if anyone's said this already but it seems to me that whether he believes what he says or not, Lamar's taken it on himself to keep arguing unpopular points to try and create debate. Though what he argues is often unpoluar for a reason, trying to create legitimate debate seems an admirable aim to me.[/QUOTE] He's playing the Devil's Advocate in the entirely wrong way, if that is what he's doing. The point of the Devil's Advocate is to debate for something that they don't believe in, but to create a good natured and wholesome debate. THIS is not a good natured and wholesome debate. Whoever would take his side in this argument is a fucking retard, and I stand that no one in their right mind would. A debate is supposed to be something that has a roughly equal amount of supporters on each side, not a huge sea of people that oppose/support it and a tiny group of people who have an opposite opinion. Example of a Good Debate: The ethical and moral points of abortion, revolving around 'Pro-Life' and 'Pro-Choice' Example of a Bad Debate: 'Stupid middle easterners fighting for their freedom making gas cost more' [editline]12th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Coffee;28569157]Would Big Kahuna Burger be a good venue?[/QUOTE] Is it good?
[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;28568533]You're a terrible troll, 1/10 because I rated you dumb.[/QUOTE] What Im a troll because I don't support western democracy/capitalism.
[QUOTE=Lamar;28568843]What the hell is wrong with you?[/QUOTE] he's just afraid of the jewish islamo-wizards and doesnt want to admit it [editline]12th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=PEn1s lol;28569319]What Im a troll because I don't support western democracy/capitalism.[/QUOTE] row row fite tha powa rebblelyfe
This guy has a point, economy will get hurt by the rising oil prices, since much of the transport services avaliable today are dependant upon oil. Expensive transport leads to higher prices on products, which in turn leads to inflation. But, what does this have to do with democracy in the Middle East? You're not wrong when you're claiming that the revolutions in the Middle East can make oil prices rise, but this has nothing to do with democracy itself. Revolution isn't the only way to impose democracy. And, a more important question; why do we want to stop the oil prices from rising? Oil is not an endless resource, you can't produce new oil, so the oil we find is all we have. That's why it's urgent to develop green technology that will last the pressure of time. The oil prices are inevitably going to rise anyway, without the revolutions in the Middle East.
[QUOTE=voodooattack;28569182]Maybe if your country didn't dump surplus wheat in the ocean they'd be able to trade that for oil? I dunno. :frog:[/QUOTE] Or all that dairy we stuff into caves and then dump into rivers. It's a thought.
[QUOTE=Lamar;28567573]Lately I've been noticing a bunch of people on here supporting the protesters in the middle east/north Africa. These people apparently do not realize that they are suicidal. Look at what's happening to the price of food and fuel in our nations. [b]The prices are soaring[/b]. Experts are predicting that the price of gasoline in America will reach five dollars a gallon before the summer of 2011. Yes, 2011. In areas like California the price will surpass six dollars. The economy cannot handle these kinds of prices. It is going to fucking [u][b][i]implode[/i][/b][/u]. Our economy is already in a weakened and fragile state, the collapse and reformation of Middle-Eastern governments will hurt us drastically in this time of crises. By the time they get their shit together, it maybe too late for us... The people in the M.E deserve better than dictatorships, but their timing of overthrowing their governments, I must say have been incredibly inconvenient for us.. What are your thoughts? Middle-Eastern democracy at the expense of our already weakened economy? Is this why no action has been taken?[/QUOTE] You DO realize that the Middle Eastern revolutions aren't completely at fault here, right? People on the Futures Market anticipate this shit, and buy up oil shares, which in-turn drives up the price of oil.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;28572403]You DO realize that the Middle Eastern revolutions aren't completely at fault here, right? People on the Futures Market anticipate this shit, and buy up oil shares, which in-turn drives up the price of oil.[/QUOTE] tell me why they're buying up shares in the first place.
Oh, look, it's him again.
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Change your avatar, you don't deserve it.
[QUOTE=Lamar;28567996]No, but I feel like a lot of people would secretly agree vice versa.[/QUOTE] You [I]must [/I]be a troll. No sane intelligent person would desire to live in a Police State.
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