Movie was alright. Better original ideas than Oblivion but not executed as well.
Did anybody else notice the Burial track during that one scene? [sp]Where Damon goes to see Spider to get a ticket[/sp]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYOkaOU1T0U[/media]
Also, did that scene where [sp]the grenade went off on the ship and it crashed into Elysium give anybody else a rush like you were also falling?[/sp]
[QUOTE=One Forty Three;41893772]Movie was alright. Better original ideas than Oblivion but not executed as well.
Did anybody else notice the Burial track during that one scene? [sp]Where Damon goes to see Spider to get a ticket[/sp]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYOkaOU1T0U[/media]
Also, did that scene where [sp]the grenade went off on the ship and it crashed into Elysium give anybody else a rush like you were also falling?[/sp][/QUOTE]
They also played this tune:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16bRiH5zfOY[/media]
My thoughts on the movie? It was okay, nothing special. It suffered from that horrible "shaky cam" that alot of movies are going for. I personally think the effect is awful. There were some neat effects they used that were a bit experimental, but overall the camera work could have been done better.
The visual effects were really good, I thought they did a brilliant job making the ships and Elysium feel "believable." Pacing was a bit weird, movie felt like it dragged on a little.
Kruger made the movie, such an awesome character.
[QUOTE=Rapist;41891179]That means its good gore :v:[/QUOTE]Whatever, good disgusting, bad disgusting. I hate all of it .
Visually it's very appealing, however I found the movie to be totally forgettable. Weak 2D characters with a plain plot. The movie made clearly for dumb dumbs, stupid flashbacks for the tattoos of Max and Forgettable Character Name on his hand is a good start. [U]LIKE YOU DIDN'T MAKE IT CLEAR ENOUGH EARLIER IN THE FILM?[/U] Beating that imagery into my head with flashbacks only made the "pay off" even more weak.
I'm no esteemed film buff but I know a polished turd when I see one. I just hate seeing so much potential (a $150 million dollar budget film, a miniature industry) pissed away.
Oh and did anyone find the gang leader's accent unbearable? The fact I couldn't understand 90% of what the fuck he was saying, which wouldn't bother me if it wasn't IMPORTANT dialogue. He almost had as much screen time as Matt Damon, fuck.
I do admit Spider's accent was a bit impenetrable, but all the important shit was understandable.
I had no strong expectations for this movie, nor any really strong inclination to see it, I merely went with friends. That was my first mistake.
At the start of the movie, it seems to embrace every possible hero cliche it can, and then goes on to beat us over the head with its poorly veiled class warfare plot. Upon reading the synopsis for the movie, I expected Jodie Foster and company would all be extremely unlikable characters with poor motivations behind their actions, and they were! They were even more so than I'd anticipated!
Perhaps my biggest issue with this movie, is how stuck in District 9's shadow it is. This movie strives to create the same atmosphere and tone as D9 and because of that really fails to be its own film with its own universe, and even when there [i]were[/i] unique parts to it(i.e. Elysium) they were hardly explored!
The only really worth while thing about this movie for me were the bits near the beginning of the film with the landscapes of Elysium and the gorgeous shots of Earth.
[QUOTE=One Forty Three;41893772]Also, did that scene where [sp]the grenade went off on the ship and it crashed into Elysium give anybody else a rush like you were also falling?[/sp][/QUOTE]
yeah, that part was really well shot
Loved the movie.
The fucking editing almost ruined it though, I can't believe how god awful the editing was. The pacing of the shots were odd and really janky sometimes, and things happened pretty fast. Yet somehow the movie still felt drawn out sometimes. I don't know why. This movie needed much more straight forward editing, also WAYYYY less shaky cam.
It was good enough to keep me interested. The special effects were pretty amazing, and the story was ok.
Probably wont be seeing it again.
[QUOTE=BenJammin';41924969]Loved the movie.
The fucking editing almost ruined it though, I can't believe how god awful the editing was. The pacing of the shots were odd and really janky sometimes, and things happened pretty fast. Yet somehow the movie still felt drawn out sometimes. I don't know why. This movie needed much more straight forward editing, also WAYYYY less shaky cam.[/QUOTE]
I still think the movie was raped in the editing room. The film feels like it was much longer than what we saw.
There's only 1 thing that I hated in the movie, and it's the close quarter fights. Like when [sp]Matt Damon fights Krueger in their exoskeletton by punching eachother[/sp] The camera shakes like the cameraman is high on coke and it cuts too often on other angles, zooms and unzooms, it's fucking unwatchable. A lot of action movies have that problem, it's like the fighting is so bad, they have to hide it by shaking the camera uncontrollably so the audience can,t see shit.
Went to watch this earlier today, it was pretty good. I enjoyed it but there are a few things that don't really make sense to me. I know some of them have been asked by other people, but:
[sp] Was Elysium just open to space or something? It didn't seem like there was anything at all to stop ships just flying in.
Why were there not any of the medical beds on Earth, or why did they not just send the shuttles with them on in the first place? Even just 1 of them per hospital would of made a big difference. It seemed the main reason people kept trying to get up there was for those beds, but they had large ships with several of them in which they could of just sent to Earth so people didn't keep trying to get up there just to use those.
Why did Spider only take 2 guys with him (other than a pilot) to Elysium? He recently saw 2 ships get blown up trying to get there, but he risks it anyway and only takes 2 people to help when he has a large amount of armed guards while on Earth?
Why were there not more guards or any sort of real security on Elysium? The armoury was completely unprotected as well.
How did Spider see the scrambled code and instantly know what it was? I know he was some sort of master hacker, but it was meant to be scrambled wasn't it?
What was that rich guy from Elysium doing on Earth in the first place? Why couldn't he just do whatever it was from Elysium?
Why did they have large ships with lots of medical bays already programmed to go to Earth, if there aren't going to be large amounts of Elysium Citizens there in the first place? Elysium citizens do visit Earth, but the movie didn't really suggest they would be enough of them in one place at a time to require a medical ship with so many beds, or that many ships would be needed at all.
Why did there not seem to be any sort of safety measures for Max's job on Earth? The radiation room he goes into into detects there is someone in there but carries on as normal. Why would it not check if someone is in there before the radiation is released?
Why did they not stop or track Spider when he lands on Elysium? I can't remember if that was before or after the 3 bad guys tried to take over, if it was after it makes sense as they are too busy with other problems.
The best place to put a prisoner is in a storage room right next to the armoury?
Why so many weapons in the armoury? It didn't seem like they'd need so many. [/sp]
I've seen some of the explanations other people have provided but they still don't really make sense.
[QUOTE=nightlord;41985648]Went to watch this earlier today, it was pretty good. I enjoyed it but there are a few things that don't really make sense to me. I know some of them have been asked by other people, but:
[sp] Was Elysium just open to space or something? It didn't seem like there was anything at all to stop ships just flying in.
Why were there not any of the medical beds on Earth, or why did they not just send the shuttles with them on in the first place? Even just 1 of them per hospital would of made a big difference. It seemed the main reason people kept trying to get up there was for those beds, but they had large ships with several of them in which they could of just sent to Earth so people didn't keep trying to get up there just to use those.
Why did Spider only take 2 guys with him (other than a pilot) to Elysium? He recently saw 2 ships get blown up trying to get there, but he risks it anyway and only takes 2 people to help when he has a large amount of armed guards while on Earth?
Why were there not more guards or any sort of real security on Elysium? The armoury was completely unprotected as well.
How did Spider see the scrambled code and instantly know what it was? I know he was some sort of master hacker, but it was meant to be scrambled wasn't it?
What was that rich guy from Elysium doing on Earth in the first place? Why couldn't he just do whatever it was from Elysium?
Why did they have large ships with lots of medical bays already programmed to go to Earth, if there aren't going to be large amounts of Elysium Citizens there in the first place? Elysium citizens do visit Earth, but the movie didn't really suggest they would be enough of them in one place at a time to require a medical ship with so many beds, or that many ships would be needed at all.
Why did there not seem to be any sort of safety measures for Max's job on Earth? The radiation room he goes into into detects there is someone in there but carries on as normal. Why would it not check if someone is in there before the radiation is released?
Why did they not stop or track Spider when he lands on Elysium? I can't remember if that was before or after the 3 bad guys tried to take over, if it was after it makes sense as they are too busy with other problems.
The best place to put a prisoner is in a storage room right next to the armoury?
Why so many weapons in the armoury? It didn't seem like they'd need so many. [/sp]
I've seen some of the explanations other people have provided but they still don't really make sense.[/QUOTE]
I'll try my best to answer
[sp]yeah shielding, shit that has yet to really be made, despite the stanford torus being real, i don't believe they had that force shielding designed yet. so y'know future n stuff. think of a hangar from star wars.
seeing as how those beds were meant for citizens of elysium, and they were all selfish turds, the doctors down on earth were no doubt cheap shits as well, with prices soaring out the ass. basically we are the 99% type of shit.
less crew to worry about, faster to move? that's my guess. not to mention the first time they had kruger kill off the two ships and didn't have it the second time, but they didn't know that.
droids only come as fast as they are built. also, elysium seemed to not have a huge history of breaches, and most of the folks who breached weren't as skilled as max & co.
coding is coding, some people can read it on the fly and others can't. also from my experience that shit looked like C or C+ so yeah some people can literally read that like the matrix.
i believe he wanted to make sure things were progressing smoothly, but you could tell he clearly despised having to be on earth and always jumped back to elysium first chance he got. also plot. and on top of that, he had nothing to do with elysium apart from making the security droids, he was just the ceo of a company that worked with elysium.
you never know, there could be a time when elysium fucked up and the rich had to return to earth for repairs. just my two cents on that.
there are some machines like that now that don't have those extra security features. i'm sure if the machine was programmed to detect humans and not just organic material, it wouldn't have fired up. also, plot.
spyder & co were being tracked by security personnel once they landed. that was well after max & kruger landed.
well they did ironically put her in a medbay, seeing as how she was a nurse.
once again, you never know. it seemed clear to me from the beginning of the film that this was not the first time peasants had attempted to land on elysium with their fake IDs and hope to get cured. the ring was also shown to have been around for at least 40 years, so clearly they were ready to take extreme measures if necessary, or perhaps there was a past event that called for increased security?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Pops;41988597]I'll try my best to answer
[sp]yeah shielding, shit that has yet to really be made, despite the stanford torus being real, i don't believe they had that force shielding designed yet. so y'know future n stuff. think of a hangar from star wars.
seeing as how those beds were meant for citizens of elysium, and they were all selfish turds, the doctors down on earth were no doubt cheap shits as well, with prices soaring out the ass. basically we are the 99% type of shit.
less crew to worry about, faster to move? that's my guess. not to mention the first time they had kruger kill off the two ships and didn't have it the second time, but they didn't know that.
droids only come as fast as they are built. also, elysium seemed to not have a huge history of breaches, and most of the folks who breached weren't as skilled as max & co.
coding is coding, some people can read it on the fly and others can't. also from my experience that shit looked like C or C+ so yeah some people can literally read that like the matrix.
i believe he wanted to make sure things were progressing smoothly, but you could tell he clearly despised having to be on earth and always jumped back to elysium first chance he got. also plot. and on top of that, he had nothing to do with elysium apart from making the security droids, he was just the ceo of a company that worked with elysium.
you never know, there could be a time when elysium fucked up and the rich had to return to earth for repairs. just my two cents on that.
there are some machines like that now that don't have those extra security features. i'm sure if the machine was programmed to detect humans and not just organic material, it wouldn't have fired up. also, plot.
spyder & co were being tracked by security personnel once they landed. that was well after max & kruger landed.
well they did ironically put her in a medbay, seeing as how she was a nurse.
once again, you never know. it seemed clear to me from the beginning of the film that this was not the first time peasants had attempted to land on elysium with their fake IDs and hope to get cured. the ring was also shown to have been around for at least 40 years, so clearly they were ready to take extreme measures if necessary, or perhaps there was a past event that called for increased security?[/sp][/QUOTE]
Some of that still doesn't really explain things:
[sp] I saw some shields in the Hanger sections, but the actual part where everyone lived with the houses and stuff didn't seem to have anything. Ships could just fly straight in with no problems. I might have just missed them.
I don't think that is the reason they didn't send them. It seems like they care about what people on Earth thing, otherwise they'd just shoot down any ships that tried to get there. They could of just sent the Medical ships so people didn't have as much of a reason to try to get to Elysium.
I don't think it would move any faster with less people, that would just increase the chances of him being killed. It seemed like there wasn't really anything stopping them taking an entire ship fill of armed guys. They didn't know they weren't going to be shot down, but Spider goes anyway and decides it's a good idea to take a group of people small enough to be stopped by 1 droid.
Elysium is buying Droids and Weapons for some reason, and we see a few droids rounding up the people from the shuttles, so they should have enough to defend the station against 5 guys but we don't see them do anything. If they don't have enough to stop a very small attack force, that is really stupid of them.
The code was meant to be scrambled, i thought that would mean that it was unreadable until unscrambled.
He was a citizen of Elysium, he could just manage things from Elysium. Him actually being there on Earth wouldn't really make things any different.
Them being there in case they have to return to Earth could be the reason, the ships seemed to be mostly medical beds. If they had to return to Earth they'd probably already have somewhere set up.
If it isn't going to stop or do anything when organic material is detected, what is the point of detecting it? If it's able to detect there's something in there, you'd think they'd make it so it could tell roughly how big that thing is, and then work out if it's a human.
We saw droids quickly come to stop that shuttle full of people that landed earlier on in the movie, why did that not happen with Spider?
Right next to the armoury always seems like a bad place to put someone you don't want to get access to the armoury.
An armoury makes sense, but not that amount of weapons, and we don't see anything that suggests there are really enough trained people to use them. Elysium just had really bad security overall, if it had been keeping things protected properly Max and the others wouldn't of been as much of a problem. [/sp]
the last three posts really make me feel like i'm reading some sort of covert ops mission document
It's like when part of the ME3 script got leaked.
I saw Elysium today and I honestly say I really liked it. I love the tech and overall visuals. The fight scenes were definitely less enjoyable due to the shakyness and cuts. I saw some parts of the fight scenes in b-roll footage and they looked great and natural. The end product isn't improvement at all.
Now the plot stuff. Kruger was amazing, [sp]I loved how he got super mad he was young again and no longer badass looking scarred older dude[/sp]. Less spoilerish, [sp]the gore was so fucking great and refreshing. I thought I would never see such detail in current Hollywood films.[/sp]
Now for my plot complaints and disagreements I have with few that were mentioned.
[sp]Spider taking just 2 guys with him was a bit unwise but I was more surprised they just went to Elysium. Wasn't it a big risk before?
The reboot code was scrambled the whole movie but it can still be used at the end to override the system? Did Spider fix it right at the end in a matter of seconds? These are my biggest questions.
The rich people seemed evil just because but I didn't mind that. It seemed to be part of the world they built so I was okay with it. As for the ships we see like 3 leaving so I don't understand why people complain about that. Reading the spoilers I expected fucking fleet going to Earth, 3 ships isn't much. As for why they didn't offer them before... I guess they are assholes?[/sp]
It isn't a film that will change movie history but I found it very enjoyable and can only recommend it.
probably have been answered thousand of times but the reason why kruger [sp]was mad after the face reconstruction is because he looked younger and like more "polished"?[/sp]
because he finally took a shower.
[QUOTE=Zannabluke;42036882]probably have been answered thousand of times but the reason why kruger [sp]was mad after the face reconstruction is because he looked younger and like more "polished"?[/sp][/QUOTE]
I'm sure there were many reasons [sp]why he got mad. First, he was already a very unstable person. Second, it was just moments ago a grenade tore his fucking face off. Third, the boss lady was pissed at him even though he brought the guy she wanted (not in a clean way but Kruger doesn't seem to care about that). Lastly, he was this experienced looking soldier and now he looks like 25 year old guy with a beard.[/sp]
Is anyone interested in hearing how the story doesn't make much sense? I still love the movie but I figured out few things that could turn out as plot holes.
I enjoyed how the organisation that Kruger works for, abbreviated (CCB), in local slang here means "gaping vagina"
Overall 7/10
I'll post a proper review later today
[url=http://skul4aface.blogspot.com/2013/09/elysium-artwork.html]So aaron beck just got the green light to release a metric fuckton of concept art recently[/url]
[IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-B-lRk3ORzpk/UjeTd1ApOYI/AAAAAAAABtM/rS93CywT3ys/s640/thug_01.jpg[/IMG]
They should've had this.
[QUOTE=GAH_caek;42241070][url=http://skul4aface.blogspot.com/2013/09/elysium-artwork.html]So aaron beck just got the green light to release a metric fuckton of concept art recently[/url][/QUOTE]
I'm really starting to think that companies like Production IG (Ghost in the Shell), WETA, and games like Neotokyo, Metal Gear Solid, Blacklight, etc. are either influencing each other, or sci-fi is just getting closer to approximating what the future will probably be like. They're all starting to look very similar in terms of art design.
[QUOTE=itak365;42252292]I'm really starting to think that companies like Production IG (Ghost in the Shell), WETA, and games like Neotokyo, Metal Gear Solid, Blacklight, etc. are either influencing each other, or sci-fi is just getting closer to approximating what the future will probably be like. They're all starting to look very similar in terms of art design.[/QUOTE]
They all draw from very similiar sources and try to create a predictive vision of what may be possible.
A lot of people just enjoy visual styles and elements that are seemingly realistic or possible in future.
Gonna watch this movie tomorrow. Should I look out for something interesting? (easter egg, scene after credits..)
[QUOTE=Zuimzado;42254345]Gonna watch this movie tomorrow. Should I look out for something interesting? (easter egg, scene after credits..)[/QUOTE]
Are you squimish?
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