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[url=http://io9.com/designing-elysium-all-the-secrets-of-neill-blomkamps-1069787673][B]Designing Elysium: All The Secrets of Neill Blomkamp's Stark Future[/B][/url] [IMG]http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18weky5me1ew9jpg/original.jpg[/IMG] The original exoskeletons were appretly brutal as fuck.
[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QypzAgLb8A[/media] jeremy gave it the green pass
Just saw an early screening of this. Holy shit that was such a good move. All of the special effects were fantastic, the acting was great, and the writing was pretty much air tight. My only complaints are not enough robots, and I think kruger's ( or however you spell it) accent made it hard to take him seriously. Definitely movie of the year so far in my opinion
That was so worth the wait. It really picked up more and more as it went on, and Kruger was fucking absurd. Loved it.
Just got back. An Amazing movie! Defiantly worth a watch! My only complaint was that there was too much shaky cam.
fucking imdb with wrong information, i thought it was going to release soon here, but NO!!!! I just found out this movie is going to release on September 20th here, srsly... ;_;
So how is this compared to District 9 anyway? I'm probably seeing it tomorrow no matter what but I was kinda disappointed by the reviews because I was anticipating this pretty highly. They're not terrible but they're a lot more meh than I expected.
Just saw it and I don't know what to feel. - I think the trailers showed off way too much, but on that note, things didn't play in an order I expected them to and the characters weren't at all what I thought they'd be, like Spider. - I think the editing was way too hectic and the world building happened way too fast, but then again, it would have been a 4 hour long movie with District 9 phase, haha. - Also, there were way too many re-plays of flash backs, but this could be just for the dumb people who can't follow the story. - Elysium also felt dead, we never got to really know anything about it and it felt almost abandoned, I barely saw anyone on the surface ring. - I didn't enjoy it as much as I expected to, could have been the fact that it was hot as fuck in the theatre too, I was sweating my ass off, but, the movie is a good scifi action piece anyway. I think I'll enjoy Elysium more when I see it the 2nd time, I also liked a lot of stuff, but those are just my negatives. ^ Edit: My god, I fucking loved the violence though and it felt like an old school 80's action movie, full points for that!
I'm going to see this tonight with my girlfriend, judging by how you guys loved it I can't fucken wait now :v:
This doesn't come out until the 23rd in the uk, I'm so pissed right now.
Got back from seeing it with my dad and a friend. Fookin' awesome, Sharlto's Kruger was fucking disgusting and I loved it. The effects were amazing, the only thing close to it to date is District 9 and the Hobbit.
Might go at 10pm to a near by Empires theatre in Whitby. Going alone, I hope there isn't too many people there at 10pm.
So fucking good oh my god Kruger was fucking radical
That movie was shit. Okay, okay, I owe a better explanation than that. Let's start with what I liked. The acting, barring some scenes/characters was pretty good. Matt Damon did a good job, so did the guy who played Kruger. As per usual, the film was beautiful and the CGi was amazing. I liked Spyder (he reminds me so much of Vaas). Now, onto the stuff I didn't like. First and foremost on the list (which is quite extensive) was the plot. It took a lot of political and social issues that are very complex and boiled them down. None of the stuff had very much depth. It was just the classical "evil rich white people" (who even have posh accents and the one of the main villains speaks a romance language, just for good measure) in their picturesque lives and the ethnic poor people who live in total squalor and have no rights or privileges. Not only does this bring up so many questions about how this system works (why has no one ever tried revolting, how to they keep the populace in check when they float out in space miles away, who makes goods for the poor people and where do they get the money for them) that are barely or never explained, but it presents a very cardboard cut-out version of a very, very complicated issue in society. Furthermore, I am certain that Neil Blomkamp does not know subtlety at all. District 9 was ham-fisted enough but this takes the cake for being one of the most preachy movies I have seen. The main villains had no explanation or clear motives, they were just evil greedy fucks for the hell of it. Jodie Foster's character mentioned her children at one point but she is never seen interacting with them and it seems like she was just mincing words to convince the president to allow her to continue using Kruger. Kruger himself had no real incentive to be an evil fuck, but he was more believable in his position, having grown up on the harsh Earth. I mean, De la Court just blows up space ships full of people in the beginning for no reason (the scene with the president makes it clear that it wasn't standard procedure so she just killed civilians against protocol) and acts like a complete bitch throughout the film and is given no more depth than "I am a rich, greedy fuck hurr durr" The action would have be amazing had they not abused the shakey cam like they did. Seriously, it got so fucking ridiculous that I almost got sick for the first time at a movie. I don't mind minor amounts of shakey cam (in fact, I rather enjoy it) but it did not help this film and ruined otherwise excellently choreographed and edited fights. If I had to get more nitpicky I could ask questions like "where the fuck does Spyder get that exo-suit an cerebral thingy" or "how do the medbays work" or the ultimate nitpick of all "why the fuck were the robotic voices always announcing everything like I am some kind of idiot manchild who cannot read text on the screen" but honestly my main gripe was the plot. They took social issues and smashed them down to the "rich people are evul" bullshit that proliferates through social media these days. These issues are more complex than simple black and white good vs. evil scenarios but they never elaborate on it or give it some complexity. They just ride the bandwagon like everybody else. I know I will be alone in my opinion and believe me, I did not go into this movie wanting to hate it (I was looking forward to it) but in my opinion, that movie sucked. I know FP will love it because people on here have some kind of eternal grudge against rich people but the whole thing was so watered down to appeal to the masses of butthurt people who cry about rich people without realizing that the world will always have the proverbial "haves and have nots" because that is how society always works. For people to have more, some people will have less. You can make it more fair and even but at the end of the day there will always be those with and those without, and no preachy ass movie with a watered down narrative can change that. So that is what I thought. If I had to give it a rating, maybe 4/10 at best. To sum it up, a terrible plot, bad villains, overly shakey camera, ruined what could have been a great film. [editline]balls[/editline] Okay, I also liked the analogy between going to Elysium and Mexican immigration. That was actually subtle enough and I thought it was cool when I figured it out.
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;41779134]They took social issues and smashed them down to the "rich people are evul" bullshit that proliferates through social media these days. These issues are more complex than simple black and white good vs. evil scenarios but they never elaborate on it or give it some complexity. They just ride the bandwagon like everybody else.[/QUOTE] The rich characters exist to satirize (in a dark, dark way) wealth and excess. Don't you remember any of Carlyle's dialogue?
[QUOTE=kidwithsword;41779592]The rich characters exist to satirize (in a dark, dark way) wealth and excess. Don't you remember any of Carlyle's dialogue?[/QUOTE] If audience members cannot tell it is satire then it has failed. Believe me, I wasn't the only one complaining. I heard people bitching about that same stuff as I left the theater. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to be "that guy" who needs everything to be blatantly obvious to understand it, but in a film as serious as this, satire is difficult to find and I honestly don't think it was satire. Of course, if you can produce some evidence like some of the people working on the film outright stating it then of course I will believe it. Until then, I'm chalking it up to lazy writing. [editline]tits[/editline] And even if it is satire, why is it necessary to satirize wealth and excess? They could easily portray it in a more serious and realistic tone and the story could [I]still work. [/I]It makes me wonder why you would bother satirize something that is already heavily vilified and skewed in the popular conception.
[QUOTE=a203xi;41723587]A lot of people seem to be pissed that this movie is somehow 'socialist/communist propaganda'. These people seem to be mostly retarded, but I guess it makes sense they would say these sort of things, especially since the concept of the movie seems like a perfectly valid point to make. I'd say space in general is a socialist concept and they seem to be too stupid to understand.[/QUOTE] Didn't think it was that bad, but lmfao there is a bunch of people on imdb who are complaining about that saying that the movie was extremely liberal and they felt alienated and felt they weren't wanted watching it.
Just saw it, enjoyed it very much, Copley's performance was fucking great.
Just came back from the theater, dunno what the other guy is babbling about. Maybe he was a pre-Earth Elysium member. Grand movie. Would pay to watch again.
[sp]I love how the entire problem with getting people from earth registered into Elysium is solved with one line of code[/sp] But joking aside, it was a great film, imo
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;41779134]That movie was shit. So that is what I thought. If I had to give it a rating, maybe 4/10 at best. To sum it up, a terrible plot, bad villains, overly shakey camera, ruined what could have been a great film.[/QUOTE]4/10? Shit movie? Sorry (not sorry) but no
I just got back from seeing it. I had huge expectations from this movie and was left a little disappointed. It kinda dragged on a little bit and was getting a little bored but the ending was good. 7/10
I forgot this movie came out today. Maybe I'll see it tomorrow... alone.
i went in really excited for the film so i guess itd be wrong to say i was "pleasantly surprised" but either way i enjoyed it a LOT more than i thought i would. maybe i just got suckered into the attention to detail with crafting a believable science fiction setting (because that seems pretty rare in films, making things believable and not just "ooh shiny and futuristic") but i thought it was fucking amazing. i feel like, to the poster above complaining about the unexplained points in the plot, all of those things about where the exosuit came from, why nobody revolted (who said they hadn't?), where supplies came from, how they controlled earth from above etc are all very easily explained just by thinking about it rather than having the film explicitly explain all of it to you. spyder is running a rebel crime ring, it seems entirely reasonable he could steal an exosuit from a manufacturing plant or have one of his guys infiltrate one and supply him with goods. i dont see where you get "why did nobody revolt", because it seems entirely possible that there had been revolts in the past (albeit unsuccessful). are you asking why the film didnt SHOW a revolution or? supplies for the poor are produced in factories controlled by the wealthy of elysium, i feel like thats super obvious? and then they police the planet with their droids which are controlled by the core of elysium i just dont get how thats a plot hole tbh, they may not have sat down and explained everything about the world of elysium in the film but everything you brought up seems pretty common sense taking into account what they DID show. as far as character motives, the only person i would question is jodie fosters. kruger is a psychopath who enjoys hurting people and getting paid, and as for his motive to [sp]take over elysium, that seems pretty obvious? a violent psychopath sees an opportunity to take control of what is essentially the last bastion of luxury for humans and he takes it. seems pretty reasonable for a motive.[/sp] jodie foster was admittedly a bit underwritten but i didnt feel very bothered by it. they didnt flesh out her motives very well but imagining an elitist sociopath in a powerful military position who believes immigrants would threaten her luxurious standard of living is pretty believable to me so it seemed rather obvious why she was allowed to play out the generic bad guy role in the film. i agree they could have done better, but i think theres a difference between "could have done better" and a plot hole. as for not developing the backstory of the rich of elysium, idk maybe i'm just being overly defensive of the film but i fail to see the issue? i mean yeah its certainly one of those things where the writer/director/whatever just hamfisted his obvious political ideals (rich people are often elitist and greedy grrr they dont care about minorities) into the film, but i dont think that harmed the film in any way unless you have an issue with filmmakers inserting their own political bias. when earth got fucked up and elysium was constructed, the wealthiest elite of earth got to go and now they live there and enjoy their luxurious lifestyles. i suppose they could have gone more into depth into the political message of the film but then again maybe they just werent aiming to make a political film? i feel like they wanted to make an scifi action film with a relatively detailed and believable backstory/universe and let their personal beliefs about society bleed into the script. [editline]10th August 2013[/editline] also i really loved the use of gore in the movie. there were a couple of scenes where they could have opted for cheap "buckets of blood splashed on a wall" type stuff but instead went for realistic depictions of violence like you'd see in a liveleak video ([sp]ie the grenade tearing off krugers face, the weird laser rifle perforating and tearing apart krugers mercenary in the armory, etc[/sp])
I saw it at the premier last night. Daaaaamn it was fucking awesome.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;41781409]I forgot this movie came out today. Maybe I'll see it tomorrow... alone.[/QUOTE] I did it. You can do it too. It's well worth it. Then again, the only guy that went alone as well last night was some, big obese man that moved like molasses.
I'll post what I posted in gmf because I'm curious on others opinions: Elysium was awesome. Really good story as well as visuals. Few things kinda bugged me, like it just left me curious about a lot. -why [sp]no robots showed up the entire time they were on Elysium until after Matt Damon was dead? -Why did the medical pod things only exist on Elysium? You would think that the pods would have been developed and built on Earth, but not a single one remained behind? -Why didn't Spider copy the code from Max's head the moment he saw what it was? He could have copied it and then let Max go do whatever the heck he wanted.[/sp] [editline]10th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=BananaFoam;41779134]*giant post* [/QUOTE] See, I felt like it stayed away from focusing on class differences as much as was possible. It was still there for sure, but the focus was on Elysium's medical technology, not their quality of living. [sp]When the first illegal ship makes it to Elysium, the first thing they do is rush to the medical pod. They don't try to hide or fight to stay on Elysium, their only reason for going is to be healed. It seemed to show that they don't care if they're sent back to Earth to live in poverty as long as they're healthy. Max's sudden urgency to get to Elysium comes from needing a medical pod. Frey needs to get there to cure her daughter's leukemia. When all of Earth's population becomes citizens of Elysium, the first thing to happen is medics are dispatched.[/sp] See, I think they tried their hardest to not make it a classic rich vs poor scenario, and instead focused on intimate personal, individual characters and their motivations behind their actions. Max and Frey weren't overly oppressed by rich sky people.
Okay so my biggest gripe with this movie: These posh assholes are hogging all of the healybeds for themselves. I understand that. They obviously don't want anything to fuck up their habitat or connect it to dirty Mexicoworld. So... [sp]Why the fuck do they have a fleet of ships with a dozen healybeds each, programmed to go right to fucking earth and start up the healing parade?[/sp] Given their intensity with isolation, I can't really see them approaching this...unless [sp]they were going to start healing people the whole time!?!?[/sp]
[QUOTE=G71tc4;41787253]Okay so my biggest gripe with this movie: These posh assholes are hogging all of the healybeds for themselves. I understand that. They obviously don't want anything to fuck up their habitat or connect it to dirty Mexicoworld. So... [sp]Why the fuck do they have a fleet of ships with a dozen healybeds each, programmed to go right to fucking earth and start up the healing parade?[/sp] Given their intensity with isolation, I can't really see them approaching this...unless [sp]they were going to start healing people the whole time!?!?[/sp][/QUOTE] Hadn't even thought about that. That's so true.
[QUOTE=G71tc4;41787253]Okay so my biggest gripe with this movie: These posh assholes are hogging all of the healybeds for themselves. I understand that. They obviously don't want anything to fuck up their habitat or connect it to dirty Mexicoworld. So... [sp]Why the fuck do they have a fleet of ships with a dozen healybeds each, programmed to go right to fucking earth and start up the healing parade?[/sp] Given their intensity with isolation, I can't really see them approaching this...unless [sp]they were going to start healing people the whole time!?!?[/sp][/QUOTE] They had the beds in case of an Emergency where if the ones that were shut down inside of homes, or areas, they could disperse ones from the EMS, to an area. If there ever were an accident, or if something shut off, and the bed didn't work. That or they thought of helping Earth, and just decided it wasn't worth it.
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