What do you think happens after we die? ( In Theory )
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we are given 72 virgins.
You go in a box and get put in the ground.
[editline]17th September 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mr.face;32335405]The sad reality is that were living in a box. The universe cant just go on forever.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't but there is the theory of the Multiverse that suggests there are multiple alternate universes.
you just die
I fucking hate this thread and this conversation, it scares the life out of me
Imagine if nothing ever existed. Nothing.
[QUOTE=redback3;32335519]I fucking hate this thread and this conversation, it scares the life out of me[/QUOTE]
Words shouldn't be able to scare you.
Maybe you suddenly appear in the universe next door to this one.
Each time i died i got resurrected into a tiny animal,right now i am a squirrel.
[QUOTE=Franke_R!?;32335580]Words shouldn't be able to scare you.[/QUOTE]
Not the words, the idea the words express.
I don't have any definite idea on it. But if I did, it would be reincarnation.
[QUOTE=Rebi;32335824]Not the words, the idea the words express.
I don't have any definite idea on it. But if I did, it would be reincarnation.[/QUOTE]
In a sense we all get reïncarnated, energy never gets lost, only transferred.
[QUOTE=Franke_R!?;32335832]In a sense we all get reïncarnated, energy never gets lost, only transferred.[/QUOTE]
Yes, energy in (Force x Distance), but not "life-energy".
It happens the same thing that happened before you born.
Since your mind is nothing more than the results of the chemical processes and things going on in your brain, when your brain dies, you will no longer have a mind.
Your mind is not tied to some bullshit made up magical things like souls that have no proof or logical explanation to why they should exist, the things going on in your brain is the only thing that dictates your mind. Once your brain is no longer functional, you will have no mind.
Once you have no mind, you will have no what so ever consciousness. You won't feel sad, happy, worried, regretful, tired, bored, or anything at all anymore. Your mind will be non-existent, and you will never know that you no longer exist because you will never again be conscious of what is happening to you.
Therefor any preparations you do for yourself for when you die is wasted time, these preparations should only be for the people you leave behind when you die so that they may live well. Any time you spend preparing for yourself after your death, is time wasted not enjoying the life you have now.
[QUOTE=Simski;32336200]Your mind is not tied to some bullshit made up magical things like souls that have no proof or logical explanation to why they should exist[/QUOTE]
Our minds are obviously in a magical snowglobe held in a secret magical kingdom, we can think because we have established a psychic link with the snowglobe.
[QUOTE=Simski;32336200]Your mind is not tied to some bullshit made up magical things like souls that have no proof or logical explanation to why they should exist, the things going on in your brain is the only thing that dictates your mind. Once your brain is no longer functional, you will have no mind.[/QUOTE]
You don't really know that, do you? Consciousness is one of science's greatest unsolved problem. We do not understand it. We do not know what questions to ask. We know [B]nothing[/B] about its purpose, origin, mechanism, or what the hell it is in the first place.
If our consciousness is so abstract and undefined, why does it have to be tied to our material bodies? Keep an open mind, man!
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;32336362]You don't really know that, do you? Consciousness is one of science's greatest unsolved problem. We do not understand it. We do not know what questions to ask. We know [B]nothing[/B] about its purpose, origin, mechanism, or what the hell it is in the first place.
If our consciousness is so abstract and undefined, why does it have to be tied to our material bodies? Keep an open mind, man![/QUOTE]
Because there is absolutely nothing that can be used to prove, or even imply that our minds and our consciousness is not tied to the functions of our brains.
There is no logical explanations behind the science of how souls would work aside from "a wizard did it", and there is absolutely no evidence that souls do exist.
There can't possibly be a theory about what happens after we die, because there's no way to prove it and no facts. All we have is people claiming to see "light in the end of the tunnel" and other clinical death induced hallucinations, and religious hypotheses.
But science is just a tool to explain and describe our natural and observable world.
What if our "souls" and our consciousnesses were part of something beyond that?
Then surely using scientific logic to prove or disprove "souls" would be pointless.
You must also remember that science isn't perfect. It's something which have constantly
been revised for many hundreds of years. We learn new things all the time, some of which
completely contradicts our expectations and understandings. We must revise science all
the time, and be humble about what we don't know or understand!
I see your point, but just because you don't know something it doesn't mean every idea is as valid as the next.
I don't think it's exactly a 50/50 chance between life after death and this being all there is. Reincarnation and an afterlife are man made ideas based off superstitions and false evidence. Now the 'evidence' is more or less disproved we're just left with an off chance that those guesses were right.
Just my 2 cents.
It's like before you were born. There is nothing
I don't like to think of this. I'm not sure about what my answer would be.
The sad thing is is that we'll find out in the end but we'll never be able to tell each other of it. :(
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;32336489]But science is just a tool to explain and describe our natural and observable world.
What if our "souls" and our consciousnesses were part of something beyond that?
Then surely using scientific logic to prove or disprove "souls" would be pointless.
You must also remember that science isn't perfect. It's something which have constantly
been revised for many hundreds of years. We learn new things all the time, some of which
completely contradicts our expectations and understandings. We must revise science all
the time, and be humble about what we don't know or understand![/QUOTE]
There is nothing that implies that any of these things exist after death, and therefor any time spent preparing yourself for your life after death is by all odds a major waste of time.
I dunno man, I haven't died yet, anything could happen.
These things are inexplainable and made up out of assumptions, wishes, and fears.
They have no explanation to why they must exist or how they exist, therefor they are all equally unlikely.
Saying that "after the brain dies, you will no longer have a consciousness" is a valid argument in the same way "after you drink a glass of milk, the glass will be empty" is a valid argument. By killing the brain, you remove the thing that gives you consciousness, therefor you will have no consciousness when the brain is dead.
You have absolutely no consciousness whatsoever as your body slowly deteriorates into dust. You're sleeping for an eternity.
First of all, it's quite a privilege to know you are going to die, not many animals know that. Beats me though, they see other animals getting eaten so.. maybe they just don't see it, lol.
And with humans, it's not enough to just know we are going to die; we want more than that! And that's where most people go wrong.
[QUOTE=MintyMginty;32336556]
Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]
Nice point!
Ever hear of Dimethyltriptamine? Produced by just about every organism to ever live on this planet, produced by your body three times throughout your life.
Dimethyltriptamine is the strongest psychedelic substance known to man; people who have used it recreationally have reported intense, vivid, and amazing out-of-body experiences, including things like meeting with some form of greater being, flying through the universe, etc.
As I said before, your body produces it. The first time it is produced is when you are born. The second? Every single night when you enter REM sleep. This is thought to be what causes dreams to be so intense, odd, and amazing, especially if you know how to dream lucidly.
The third time? The moment you die. Your brain releases an absolutely huge amount of DMT upon death. This is relevant, because I think that when you die, you have an amazing DMT trip, and (if you know anything about dreams, you'll know that time can be 'magnified', i.e. Inception, where 5 minutes IRL is an hour in a dream) you enter your dream world for (what seems like) eternity.
I think this is where the concept of an afterlife or meeting some deity during a near-death experience comes from. You trip balls on DMT, and, depending on what you believe happens after death, you 'dream' that you go to an afterlife or meet some a deity, simply because of subconscious autosuggestion (an example of autosuggestion would be in a lucid dream; you're walking through a building, and you look at a door and think "Gee, I really hope that a monster doesn't come out of that room." You suggest to your subconscious that a monster should come out of the door, and thus, a monster comes out of the door.); you think "I hope I go to heaven", and thus, your dream world is what you imagine heaven would be like.
[QUOTE=Baconator 7;32337092]Block of text about DMT[/QUOTE]
About that, how much is released when you go to bed? I've always wanted to know.
[QUOTE=DJ999;32337469]About that, how much is released when you go to bed? I've always wanted to know.[/QUOTE]
Obviously the amount generated by your metabolism doesn't really matter as you can't quite control it.. and it's small.
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