[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;25822454][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattalo[/url]
That took me about 10 seconds.[/QUOTE]
Heh, Wikipedia.
Well, I guess I am wrong.
Stem cell research, must be done. You can regrow organs and tissue with it, organs on demand, thats what a modern society needs medically. Oh and I have heard somewhere, history channel I think, that stem cells could possibly be the stepping stone to a cure for some cancers. You can use the stem cells to create more white blood cells (I believe thats that right one, correct me otherwise) that help to fight free radicals, helping stop cancer naturally and make treatment more potent.
I want to go into genetics so this is the type of stuff i have wondered about,
1.Even if we were able to (we are nowhere close) there wouldn't be a point to do so (yet anyway who knows what will happen in the future)
2.I hope that something like Gattaca doesn't happen (humans with altered genetics become superior in society), But I also hope it can be used to remove major genetic problems like cancer causing genes or Tay-Sachs disease.
3.Everyone would easily have different opinions that would (and has) end up leading to racism (Eugenics) so I see no reason to answer this other than healthier overall.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;25822552]Heh, Wikipedia.
Well, I guess I am wrong.[/QUOTE]
Would you like me to go to oxford and find you another?
To be honest it makes sense.
Since things like "species" are of human definition. Really you only have differences in genes.
And basically you're just looking for the most differences in the genomes while still being able to create fertile offspring.
Genetically fucking up human embryos is alright. You can target and remove things like Downs, Parkinson's, Aspergers("lol doesn't exist"), and other genetic disorders in the early stages of development. I honestly can't see a way it could go wrong, because even the most genetically perfect human is still only human.
1. Nope. You'd have to create an entirely new species, with a clean sheet of DNA, if I remember correctly. You can't just go "hurr let's take the gene for wolf's head and stick it to the human DNA strand lol".
2. As I said, they'd still be only human.
3. Have you ever seen The Fifth Element? That's close enough for me.:q:
Although It'd be hard as hell since you'd have to change the DNA of every cell or you could have complications.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;25822668]Although It'd be hard as hell since you'd have to change the DNA of every cell or you could have complications.[/QUOTE]
Yes, there are billions of cells.
Not too late to start
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;25822688]Yes, there are billions of cells.
Not too late to start[/QUOTE]
What?
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;25822688]Yes, there are billions of cells.
Not too late to start[/QUOTE]
Yes, there are a billions of billions.
Not too start to late.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;25822704]What?[/QUOTE]
It's not too late to start to change the billions of cells into your desired needs.
/sarcasm
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;25822413]Somethings can reproduce.[/QUOTE]
But most animals that are cross breed can't reproduce but which ones can?
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[QUOTE=OvB;25822316]Yes.
Though crossing completely different animals like say a fish and a bird would never work right. Even if you DID produce anything, which you wouldn't, It would be a complete freak of creation.[/QUOTE]
True because it would die instantly. Unless Scientist secretly Did Them..
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;25822723]It's not too late to start to change the billions of cells into your desired needs.
/sarcasm[/QUOTE]
Not too late to get raped either.
[QUOTE=pyschomc;25822733]But most animals that are cross breed can't reproduce but which ones can?[/QUOTE]
According to Slappy Joe, a thing called "Cattalo" can.
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[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;25822750]Not too late to get raped either.[/QUOTE]
Lets start now
[QUOTE=pyschomc;25822733]But most animals that are cross breed can't reproduce but which ones can?
.[/QUOTE]
For you, I post again.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattalo[/url]
Sloppy_Joe is right.
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It's pretty rare though.
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But then again so is asexual reproduction in sharks, but it still happens.
We need to do more experiments on animals before we start with humans, but when we do, I'll be all for it, presuming we're not all disembodied brains when the time comes.
Also: Shark + Gorilla.
[QUOTE=SamPerson123;25822270]I think that altering human genetics is pretty wrong morally. It's not like whatever thing that will be created has any say over whether it will be this thing or not.[/QUOTE]
That is shit reasoning, according to your logic then just having kids is immoral.
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I am not saying I agree with it, not now at least, it would just be torture, we have not advanced enough to do anything with any amount of success on humans and it would be horrible, but that is a bad reason not to like it.
1. Human animal Hybrids would carry the downsides of the animal. Far superior humans can be created by modifying genetics and taking small atributes from other creatures.
2. Very likely. It will most likely be done through gene therapy rather than eugenics but it's going to happen. Probably won't be as resctictive as the Nazis would like but there will be a much better selection of humans with most of the hereditary issues taken out artificially.
3. I don't think it would be best to create a single excellent human, nor would I build it out of other peoples limbs. There is no "perfect human", just one that is fitted best to it's environment. As there is quite a bit of variance in environments, there are going to be a substantial amount of perfectly suited humans.
I wanna be a bird person like maximum ride.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;25822668]Although It'd be hard as hell since you'd have to change the DNA of every cell or you could have complications.[/QUOTE]
Actually.
Using a virus, this is possible.
[QUOTE=Fatman55;25823120]Actually.
Using a virus, this is possible.[/QUOTE]
Are there any types of Viruses that cause that out there?
Also the definition of virus is "a [b]harmful[/b] or corrupting agency"
I wouldn't call it a virus
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;25823144]Are there any types of Viruses that cause that out there?
Also the definition of virus is "a [B]harmful[/B] or corrupting agency"
I wouldn't call it a virus[/QUOTE]
We could call it the 'Cybrus' or something cool. Or the 'Genetically modifying microscopic organized cells'
Gmmooc! Gmmooooooc.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;25823144]Are there any types of Viruses that cause that out there?
Also the definition of virus is "a [b]harmful[/b] or corrupting agency"
I wouldn't call it a virus[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrovirus[/url]
Your cells are renewed constantly and if you just change the cell production method, you can change your DNA before long.
[QUOTE=RayDark;25823259]We could call it the 'Cybrus' or something cool. Or the 'Genetically modifying microscopic organized cells'
Gmmooc! Gmmooooooc.[/QUOTE]
GMMOC sounds amazing
I'm all for genetic modification, provided it has a very high "safety rating" so-to-speak.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;25823274][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrovirus[/url]
Your cells are renewed constantly and if you just change the cell production method, you can change your DNA before long.[/QUOTE]
[Quote=Wikipedia]Retroviruses that cause tumor growth include Rous sarcoma virus and mouse mammary tumor virus. Cancer can be triggered by proto-oncogenes that were mistakenly incorporated into proviral DNA or by the disruption of cellular proto-oncogenes. Rous sarcoma virus contains the src gene that triggers tumor formation. Later it was found that a similar gene in cells is involved in cell signaling, which was most likely excised with the proviral DNA. Nontransforming viruses can randomly insert their DNA into proto-oncogenes, disrupting the expression of proteins that regulate the cell cycle. The promoter of the provirus DNA can also cause over expression of regulatory genes.
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Retroviruses can be bad
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;25823313]Retroviruses can be bad[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but that doesn't mean the general principle isn't sound. Develop a safe method of doing the same thing and there you go, DNA change.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;25823336]Yeah, but that doesn't mean the general principle isn't sound. Develop a safe method of doing the same thing and there you go, DNA change.[/QUOTE]
But you'd have to inject the right amount of virus particles as the virus's nucleic acid couldn't code for the virus itself (as you'd have the person making redundant copies of the virus long after), and then you'd have to supress the immune system and ensure every cell was infected.
On top of that you'd have to ensure that no vital sequences in the cell's DNA are fucked up, (put it in non-coding region or something)
I want fake tits.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;25822765]For you, I post again.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattalo[/url][/QUOTE]
holy shiet, i never knew this <3 thanks.
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