adderall, its only to help you concentrate on what ever your doing, so if you take it, and start watching tv, you will be stuck watching tv, so what you gota do is take it, then start workiing, i have to say, meth defianetly is a much better choice as, adderall you have to be taking it for a weeek in order for it to help.
Meth is an instant boost
shut up soldier you're a dumbfuck don't give anyone advice on this forum please.
[QUOTE=anders22;39677327]marijuana and mushrooms. /end of thread[/QUOTE]
low dose of mushrooms and weed is amazing. everything is bliss
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;39678523]shut up soldier you're a dumbfuck don't give anyone advice on this forum please.[/QUOTE]
meth and stimulants are my specialty, so ill post what ever the fuck, they ask for
ok everyone listen to the dumbfuck who is addicted to meth im sure he has got some good advice
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;39678794]ok everyone listen to the dumbfuck who is addicted to meth im sure he has got some good advice[/QUOTE]
Addicts come in every shape and size, so its really rude of you to say people addicted to meth have no good advice
no im saying the [B]Dumbfuck[/B] addicted to meth has no good advice
the addicted to meth part just reinforces your dumbfuckness
maybe i shouldve said the dumbfuck who is addicted to meth and contemplated smoking detergent
or just "that stereotypical junkie dude who will probably be dead in a couple of years"
[editline]22nd February 2013[/editline]
and actually i would think its fair to say most people addicted to meth do have no good advice, that shits neurotoxic and really fucks with your rational thinking skills.
You should probably only listen to a methhead if they say "Dont do meth"
what ever bro, im fine
yea keep telling yourself that buddy, im sure its true.
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;39678980]yea keep telling yourself that buddy, im sure its true.[/QUOTE]
dont bag
what does don't bag even mean
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;39678916]
and actually i would think its fair to say most people addicted to meth do have no good advice, that shits neurotoxic and really fucks with your rational thinking skills.
You should probably only listen to a methhead if they say "Dont do meth"[/QUOTE]
that guy is just a troll ignore him. meth doesn't give you a very bad comedown to start with despite being extremely neurotoxic. as you slowly fry your brain flooding it with dopamine, that's when the comedown starts, hence why it's so addictive. Tolerance builds quicker so you're taking massive doses very soon. 30mg meth once every few months, i seriously doubt it'd do you any serious harm. and if it's good meth, then that should keep you going 12 hours?
though people can't be responsible with MDMA to keep risks to a minimum so doubtful it'll happen with meth.
Guys forget about I'm getting tested soon for CJD. I know I have it i fit the symptoms perfectly.
[QUOTE=Memnoth;39673980]False, the term cognitive nootropic agents is a field of psychoactive substances where the actions of MAOI, SSRI, SNRI, SNDRI and DRI is included. This includes drugs such as amphetamine and its analogs, anti-depressants and methylphenidate where the psychoactively induced productivity benefits cognition.[/QUOTE]
Still doesn't make you more intelligent, which, really is a relative word anyhow. but no drug enhances your comprehension skills, at least to my knowledge, nor does it improve your knowledge. and considering it's only temporary, after coming down you end up in a state lower than normal sobriety. All I'm saying is if someone tells me drugs make them smarter, I'm going to tell them they're an idiot.
you can use them to study much more efficiently though
[QUOTE=Memnoth;39674462]When excess dopaminenergic activity is available, everything you do creates a slight neuro-synaptic response to the pleasure center of the brain. This means everything you perceive as cognitively available and usable will be sub-consciously practiced in a form of learning process that involves neuro-plasticity and will therefore be more accessible to cognitive activation. Where accessibility is the foundation of cognitive function.
[editline]22nd February 2013[/editline]
Federal law is simply inconsistent with state laws because of the general controversy among politicians, level of education being the key ingredient.
This is still from a professional standpoint if we're talking about treatment. The situation and the individual must be assessed before a treatment can be considered, otherwise no knowledge about the ailment would have produced the result in the form of a specific treatment.[/QUOTE]
It's fantastic that you know all of this scientific biology and neurology business, it really is, and I'm impressed, however intelligence is a relative term, not even IQ efficiently judges intelligence, it's just a base or a "rule of thumb" in which to judge relative intelligence and comprehension skills, as I look at it. but intelligence cannot be measured, Like Einstein said "If you test a fish at how good it is at climbing a tree, it will go it's whole life believing it is stupid." Or something along those lines. Ie, you can be the dumbest mother fucker when it comes to math, but you may still be a master gardener, or mechanic or what ever. Yes I know mechanics use math, so do gardeners to an extent, my point still stands.
[editline]23rd February 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;39688871]you can use them to study much more efficiently though[/QUOTE]
Yea, but then it's the studying that's making you smarter, the drugs, if anything, or only making you more efficient at studying.
[QUOTE=Memnoth;39674462]When excess dopaminenergic activity is available, everything you do creates a slight neuro-synaptic response to the pleasure center of the brain.[/QUOTE]
Yes.
[QUOTE=Memnoth;39674462]This means everything you perceive as cognitively available and usable will be sub-consciously practiced in a form of learning process that involves neuro-plasticity and will therefore be more accessible to cognitive activation. Where accessibility is the foundation of cognitive function.[/QUOTE]
Really? Or is this another one of your far-fetched assumptions? I was not aware neuroplasticity was improved by amphetamines, and it seems you are once again oversimplifying a complex neurobiological process and drawing hasty conclusions, but maybe you are right.
[QUOTE=soldier9128;39678505]adderall, its only to help you concentrate on what ever your doing, so if you take it, and start watching tv, you will be stuck watching tv, so what you gota do is take it, then start workiing, i have to say, meth defianetly is a much better choice as, [B]adderall you have to be taking it for a weeek in order for it to help.
Meth is an instant boost[/B][/QUOTE]
Just like how morphine takes a week to work, while heroin is an instant boost. :downs:
actually for people on add it does take a few weeks to see if it works properly
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;39820186]actually for people on add it does take a few weeks to see if it works properly[/QUOTE]
even if that were the case, meth wouldn't be any different (when given at equipotent doses).
I dunno how you could say that with such confidence as each drug works very differently.
I've done both and meth is far less subtle that amphetamine
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;39825732]I dunno how you could say that with such confidence as each drug works very differently.
I've done both and meth is far less subtle that amphetamine[/QUOTE]
They work in the same way; meth just takes less drug to get the same effect. The methyl group lets it cross the BBB more easily, alters its metabolism, and [url=www.jbc.org/content/284/5/2978.full]according to this[/url] it also improves its effects within the brain, but taking a larger amount of amphetamine will get you the same effect.
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;39825732]I dunno how you could say that with such confidence as each drug works very differently.
I've done both and meth is far less subtle that amphetamine[/QUOTE]
I also do not see how this particular effect could differ between the two drugs. Meth and amphetamine aren't that different, sure there is a slightly higher dopamine to norepinephrine release with meth but this would not account for having to wait weeks with one to get the desired pharmaceutical effect while the other is instant.
[QUOTE=zach1193;39688875]It's fantastic that you know all of this scientific biology and neurology business, it really is, and I'm impressed[/QUOTE]
Thank you.
[QUOTE=zach1193;39688875]however intelligence is a relative term, not even IQ efficiently judges intelligence, it's just a base or a "rule of thumb" in which to judge relative intelligence and comprehension skills, as I look at it. but intelligence cannot be measured, Like Einstein said "If you test a fish at how good it is at climbing a tree, it will go it's whole life believing it is stupid." Or something along those lines. Ie, you can be the dumbest mother fucker when it comes to math, but you may still be a master gardener, or mechanic or what ever. Yes I know mechanics use math, so do gardeners to an extent, my point still stands.[/QUOTE]
Intelligence is difficult to measure, though looking at the theory of evolution and three different statements about the definition of the word intelligence:
[url]http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/intelligence[/url]
[url]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/intelligence?s=t[/url]
[url]http://thesaurus.com/browse/intelligence?s=t[/url]
It seems that cognitive adaption is a defining aspect of intelligence. The ability to perceive, learn and comprehend in one single word. Then there are different manifestations of intelligence that can be measured: Eloquent and articulate speech if the individual is subject to communication; High proficiency in, for example, mathematics if the individual is subject to correct circumstantial education; Or high score in IQ-tests, provided that visual recognition is cognitively bound to pattern recognition.
Proficiency is the intelligent manifestation of prolonged adaptability in one subject under correct circumstantial cognitive structure and behavior. Consider this colloquial statement: "He is really smart when it comes to chemistry."
[QUOTE=zach1193;39688875]Yea, but then it's the studying that's making you smarter, the drugs, if anything, or only making you more efficient at studying.[/QUOTE]
Does efficiency then not manifest itself as intelligence if cognitive function is engaged by the understanding of knowledge? Studying isn't simply memorizing things to apply to a test, one has to achieve a learned pattern of recognition that manifests as intelligent usable data.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;39689507]Really? Or is this another one of your far-fetched assumptions? I was not aware neuroplasticity was improved by amphetamines, and it seems you are once again oversimplifying a complex neurobiological process and drawing hasty conclusions, but maybe you are right.[/QUOTE]
Not improved neuroplasticity, though rather an adapted change in plasticity under the circumstantial cognitive activity. Maybe neruomodulative behavior is a pertinent word.
I never make assumptions, everyone knows that I'm on a playful wild goose chase in pointless rhetoric and non-serious semantic ramblings and trolling when it comes to understanding things, and everyone who takes me seriously will be shipped a free badge of mental endurance skill handcrafted by myself.
Moving out of the sarcasm paragraph; I have to say though, your behavior of attempting to describe other peoples inferior and faulty thinking is quite hurtful. It seems that you may have or have had a dysfunctional relationship with one or both of your parents, or maybe you feel lonely or have social anxiety and are seeking approval through proclaimed self-affirmation. Whatever the case may be, I would suggest altering this behavior to receive affirmation from other people rather than the destructive path of you doing it yourself. It will do you good.
[QUOTE=Iago;39666008]I need help, over the pass 2 years I been suffering for massive fatigue, inability to pay attention and pretty must not being able to finish work.
Alot of people say i'm lazy when I actually have medical reason to my shit work ethics. The next 2 days I need to put in work hard and i was wondering if theyre any drugs that can help. Whatever that can help me work better school-wise.[/QUOTE]
Food, water and sleep is probably the best drug for someone in your situation.
[editline]8th March 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=AaronTAB;39820052]Just like how morphine takes a week to work, while heroin is an instant boost. :downs:[/QUOTE]
There's a difference between recreative usage, and medicinal usage, which is very relevant what with addy also being an amphetamine.
As stormchagers says, it can take (+a) week(-s) for addy to have the desired effect, from a medicinal point of view.
I sometimes find that a small joint can help me get my head down and focus. Not too much though or it goes the opposite way.
I've had small splifffs on my lunch break at work and then gone back and powered through what I've had to do. Doesn't work if it means doing more customer service stuff.
If you ever get a job that involves manually moving shit from A to B I also highly recommend smoking a joint with a co-worker. Makes it all seem like free time.
[QUOTE=Memnoth;39841641]Thank you.
Intelligence is difficult to measure, though looking at the theory of evolution and three different statements about the definition of the word intelligence:
[URL]http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/intelligence[/URL]
[URL]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/intelligence?s=t[/URL]
[URL]http://thesaurus.com/browse/intelligence?s=t[/URL]
It seems that cognitive adaption is a defining aspect of intelligence. The ability to perceive, learn and comprehend in one single word. Then there are different manifestations of intelligence that can be measured: Eloquent and articulate speech if the individual is subject to communication; High proficiency in, for example, mathematics if the individual is subject to correct circumstantial education; Or high score in IQ-tests, provided that visual recognition is cognitively bound to pattern recognition.
Proficiency is the intelligent manifestation of prolonged adaptability in one subject under correct circumstantial cognitive structure and behavior. Consider this colloquial statement: "He is really smart when it comes to chemistry."
Does efficiency then not manifest itself as intelligence if cognitive function is engaged by the understanding of knowledge? Studying isn't simply memorizing things to apply to a test, one has to achieve a learned pattern of recognition that manifests as intelligent usable data.
Not improved neuroplasticity, though rather an adapted change in plasticity under the circumstantial cognitive activity. Maybe neruomodulative behavior is a pertinent word.
I never make assumptions, everyone knows that I'm on a playful wild goose chase in pointless rhetoric and non-serious semantic ramblings and trolling when it comes to understanding things, and everyone who takes me seriously will be shipped a free badge of mental endurance skill handcrafted by myself.
Moving out of the sarcasm paragraph; I have to say though, your behavior of attempting to describe other peoples inferior and faulty thinking is quite hurtful. It seems that you may have or have had a dysfunctional relationship with one or both of your parents, or maybe you feel lonely or have social anxiety and are seeking approval through proclaimed self-affirmation. Whatever the case may be, I would suggest altering this behavior to receive affirmation from other people rather than the destructive path of you doing it yourself. It will do you good.[/QUOTE]
So that's a lot to take in, and I see where you're coming from, looking at it from a strictly factual point of view. However, I'll still have to disagree, and maybe possibly what you'd consider remaining "ignorant" to the subject. Personally I just don't think you can ever generalize people in anyway, because for every generalization, there's always going to be an exception. Thinking about it, what you've stated is the closest way of explaining intelligence. I have more to say I think, but I'm quite burnt out at this place and time.
Haha by the way, I really hope you don't always speak to others with such formality and intellect. I don't mind one way or another, but I know it annoys "less well spoken" individuals.
[QUOTE=zach1193;39843358]I have more to say I think, but I'm quite burnt out at this place and time.[/QUOTE]
I understand. I'm at the opposite end of the energy spectrum since I'm basically tweaking, so I have unlimited energy typing and thinking right now. I want to let you know that I won't take your silence as ignorance nor arrogance.
[QUOTE=zach1193;39843358]So that's a lot to take in, and I see where you're coming from, looking at it from a strictly factual point of view. However, I'll still have to disagree, and maybe possibly what you'd consider remaining "ignorant" to the subject. Personally I just don't think you can ever generalize people in anyway, because for every generalization, there's always going to be an exception. Thinking about it, what you've stated is the closest way of explaining intelligence.[/QUOTE]
The structure I created for intelligence doesn't have to be a strict generalization. Trying to shorten and summarize the definition: Cognitive adaptability adheres to the function of proficiency, produced by the individual circumstantial genetic neuro-structure, where the neuromodulative effect that sustains and reinforces the neurosynaptic patterns, acts beneficial to the situation in a form of behavioral response.
It seems as simple as that.
[editline]8th March 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=zach1193;39843358]Haha by the way, I really hope you don't always speak to others with such formality and intellect. I don't mind one way or another, but I know it annoys "less well spoken" individuals.[/QUOTE]
It's a curse, my behavior around new people I meet who doesn't know me, find me to be either aggressive or arrogant. So it's very difficult for me to meet new people. The few friends I do have show understanding even though I bore them at times with redundant facts.
It doesn't help that my non-verbal language is so lacking that I either get perceived as arrogant, aloof or even scared. Even though I ironically don't have the ability to react to fear, but trust me, I can feel it.
[QUOTE=Memnoth;39843537]I understand. I'm at the opposite end of the energy spectrum since I'm basically tweaking, so I have unlimited energy typing and thinking right now. I want to let you know that I won't take your silence as ignorance nor arrogance.
The structure I created for intelligence doesn't have to be a strict generalization. Trying to shorten and summarize the definition: Cognitive adaptability adheres to the function of proficiency, produced by the individual circumstantial genetic neuro-structure, where the neuromodulative effect that sustains and reinforces the neurosynaptic patterns, acts beneficial to the situation in a form of behavioral response.
It seems as simple as that.
[editline]8th March 2013[/editline]
It's a curse, my behavior around new people I meet who doesn't know me, find me to be either aggressive or arrogant. So it's very difficult for me to meet new people. The few friends I do have show understanding even though I bore them at times with redundant facts.
It doesn't help that my non-verbal language is so lacking that I either get perceived as arrogant, aloof or even scared. Even though I ironically don't have the ability to react to fear, but trust me, I can feel it.[/QUOTE]
No biggy, if one place you should feel secure, I suppose it should be DD, we don't judge, well we'll tell you you're being stupid, but we don't judge personalities. And trust me you're explanations at least in this thread weren't boring. Your vocabulary is so overwhelmingly large haha. Not in a bad way of course, if anything, like I said, I was impressed.
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