The Addicts' Lounge V. Peanut butter and marijuana sandwiches
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[QUOTE=zach1193;42478011]How do you not assume, from the history of any game you've ever played or will play, there's always going to be people who are gonna try to dissatisfy you in video games. Accept it, be better than them at the game, or don't play the game. You're upset about something you don't have to do, If online is so terrible for you then just don't play, no sense in doing something you don't enjoy, that just seems silly.
Also you're looking for intuitive gameplay in a mainstream game, and grand theft auto at that, a game notorious for all the asshole things you can do? C'mon guys, I'm not tryin' to be a dick here, but there's nothing wrong with the game, and people are always gonna be people, Also pretty sure you can switch lobbies if someone is consistently bothering you.
Don't mind me, I just never get complaining about other people online. I don't get mad at them, I just kick their ass, and if I don't oh fucking well it's a video game.[/QUOTE]
Actually you can argue the game mechanics are at fault here, basically the differences from gta 4 to 5 online. In 4, nothing mattered, free roam was purely sandbox, weapons were available to everyone, money didnt matter, and rank had no real significance. Now with the rpg like system where you keep a character and are expected to spend time investing in your skills, bank account, and weapon collection, you encourage a more 'you before others' mentality since you have way more stake to lose when playing with others. Getting killed over and over in 4 didnt really matter nor was there any reason to as you didnt really lose anything and anything you lost can be easily obtained again. 5 however makes you more vulnerable to trolling since you have a car that can be destroyed that you then have to pay to retrieve, you lose money on deaths, if you try to defend yourself you get bad rep ratings which then keeps you from getting bonus things over time, going into passive mode costs money and even takes time to activate, and because of rank restrictions you cant just go and grab a better weapon to deal with said asshole. All of this and more rolled up into one mixed with the fact that there really isnt any punishment for it makes for a very hostile environment, one that isn't encouraged by rockstar as they looked at this as people going into an open world and doing stuff together. I get the whole, if you dont like it dont play it, but this isnt solely the community but a almost perfectly set-up environment for pvp where coop is encouraged. This disconnect is frustrating and people are pointing it out. Maybe over time the trolls will get bored and it will be less likely, but when nearly every server you go into turns into a free roam deathmatch right out of the gate somethings causing it. I think the worse thing about this is not the trolling but the lack of coop play amongst free roamers. With death carrying such a large consequence you start thinking, maybe I dont want to go with someone on a crazy cop chase that I might die in or maybe i wont join in on trying to go into the military base and steal a jet. Trolling is in every game, but when I felt like I couldn't get a couple people to go and try something fun I felt really disappointed.
[QUOTE=Shark Bones;42478679]Having to race to the nearest ATM as fast as possible after a mission just so I don't lose my money to a douchebag isn't fun.
It's annoying and tedious.
Rockstar needs to take away the payment for passive mode. The fact that you have to pay in-game money to avoid douchebags is ridiculous. People need to save the Deathmatching for Deathmatches.[/QUOTE]
I really dont understand why you get so wound up by getting killed, noone i know even gets annoyed by dying, its just in game money and its inconsequential I feel like you are taking the online play way too seriously
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[QUOTE=blueskyy;42478922]I really dont understand why you get so wound up by getting killed, noone i know even gets annoyed by dying, its just in game money and its inconsequential I feel like you are taking the online play way too seriously[/QUOTE]
It's not that I die.
It's that I barely even get to play because damn near EVERYONE wants my head on a fucking platter.
get better scrub :v:
[QUOTE=Shark Bones;42479059]It's not that I die.
It's that I barely even get to play because damn near EVERYONE wants my head on a fucking platter.[/QUOTE]
There is but one path.
Kill them all.
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Get rid of the tobacco and fill'er up with all ganj' and you're perfect.
Bump, smoking and drinking in the tinychat if any homies wanna hang
weed without tobacco is wasteful though
[QUOTE=TCB;42479899]weed without tobacco is wasteful though[/QUOTE]
Healthier though haha Actually that strikes a question, does loose tobacco still have all the chemical additives?
[QUOTE=thejjokerr;42479910]Tobacco without weed is wasteful as well![/QUOTE]
#awkwardmoment when you roll a joint and forget to put weed in
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[QUOTE=zach1193;42479976]Healthier though haha Actually that strikes a question, does loose tobacco still have all the chemical additives?[/QUOTE]
if you're that worried about your health you should get a vape or just smoke from a piece. joints with just weed is really wasteful.
I can't smoke joints with tobacco, I get extremely dizzy and start feeling very ill
[QUOTE=TCB;42480011]#awkwardmoment when you roll a joint and forget to put weed in
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if you're that worried about your health you should get a vape or just smoke from a piece. joints with just weed is really wasteful.[/QUOTE]
I do not get higher when smoking a joint that has tobacco in it, I don't know what you're talking about.
Tobacco burns hotter [I]immediately[/I] than bud when the flame is applied.
This vaporizes the THC content the tobacco is with more efficiently than if the weed is smoked alone.
It's not a huge effect but it's there.
someone should do an experiment to see what really increases the efficiency of smoking weed. Like cornering bowls, difference between spoons and joints, tobacco/no tobacco, ghosting your hits/straight holding it in, etc.
[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;42480525]someone should do an experiment to see what really increases the efficiency of smoking weed. Like cornering bowls, difference between spoons and joints, tobacco/no tobacco, ghosting your hits/straight holding it in, etc.[/QUOTE]
Supposedly straight bongs give you the most THC, and supposedly the majority of the THC content in the smoke is absorbed into your lungs after the first 3 seconds and anything past that is just more tar in your lungs.
Now I say supposedly because it's just what I've read in some studies, I don't know if it's empirically true.
Probably a steamroller would give the most THC, because some is lost in the water
[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;42480525]someone should do an experiment to see what really increases the efficiency of smoking weed. Like cornering bowls, difference between spoons and joints, tobacco/no tobacco, ghosting your hits/straight holding it in, etc.[/QUOTE]
From experience smaller pipes are by far the most efficient in terms of saving herb, as long as you don't let much smoke escape in-between hits (by holding the bowl opening against a table or something).
Not counting vapes which isn't really smoking
[QUOTE=zach1193;42479976]Healthier though haha Actually that strikes a question, does loose tobacco still have all the chemical additives?[/QUOTE]
Loose tobacco as in pipe tobacco? Nicotine is still addictive but it's not as treated as cigarettes and therefor there is not as many chemical shit in there that makes it more addictive.
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[QUOTE=Lick;42481154]Probably a steamroller would give the most THC, because some is lost in the water[/QUOTE]
How can the THC be lost in the water though? I mean I guess someone could try to smoke a bunch and then test the water.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;42481296]Loose tobacco as in pipe tobacco? Nicotine is still addictive but it's not as treated as cigarettes and therefor there is not as many chemical shit in there that makes it more addictive.
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How can the THC be lost in the water though? I mean I guess someone could try to smoke a bunch and then test the water.[/QUOTE]
It actually is lost in the water
[QUOTE]Contrary to popular impression, waterpipes don't necessarily protect smokers from harmful tars in marijuana smoke, according to a new study sponsored by MAPS and California NORML (National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws). The reason is that waterpipes filter out more psychoactive THC than they do other tars, thereby requiring users to smoke more to reach their desired effect. The study does not rule out the possibility that waterpipes could have other benefits, such as filtering out gases, but it suggests that other methods, such as the use of high potency marijuana, vaporizers, or oral ingestion are needed to avoid harmful toxins in marijuana smoke.
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This suggests that water filtration is actually counterproductive, apparently because water tends to absorb THC more readily than noxious tars.[/QUOTE]
- [url]http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v06n3/06359mj1.html[/url] (note that this study is focused on cannabinoids to tar ratio but it still finds that a lot of THC is absorbed by water).
And this is not even considering the fact that the bigger smoking device you have (more surface area for the smoke to pass), the more cannabinoids will be lost on the way as residue.
fucking finally found a guy, getting a hook up tomorrow. thank you god this has been one hell of a week
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;42481720]It actually is lost in the water
- [url]http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v06n3/06359mj1.html[/url] (note that this study is focused on cannabinoids to tar ratio but it still finds that a lot of THC is absorbed by water).
And this is not even considering the fact that the bigger smoking device you have (more surface area for the smoke to pass), the more cannabinoids will be lost on the way as residue.[/QUOTE]
I wonder if by using water you are able to pull harder, getting a higher tempurature and extracting more thc than if you used a regular spoon pipe, counteracting the loss in water.
[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;42481809]I wonder if by using water you are able to pull harder, getting a higher tempurature and extracting more thc than if you used a regular spoon pipe, counteracting the loss in water.[/QUOTE]
I don't see how more THC would be extracted just because the bowl is at a higher temperature, if anything the reverse could happen due to pyrolysis.
With a bong you may end up getting higher fast by more easily taking bigger hits but you'll still be wasting more weed overall than if you were to simply take two hits with a spoon instead.
I was thinking more of a difference between like a grav bong and a spoon piece, since grav or waterfall bongs dont filter through water, it just sucks it in. Maybe the effect of feeling higher is more of it hits you all at once kinda deal.
So, you can drink bong water and get high?
[QUOTE=Flash_Fire;42482263]So, you can drink bong water and get high?[/QUOTE]
...My god.
[QUOTE=Flash_Fire;42482263]So, you can drink bong water and get high?[/QUOTE]
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Joints in general are a waste of weed, whether you think it needs tobacco or not, its burning whether someone's hitting it or not. I don't think you can hit it as well with tobacco, as inhaling deeply and holding it there is bad to do with tobacco, supposed to do quickly in and out while holding it in is fine with just weed.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;42481229]From experience smaller pipes are by far the most efficient in terms of saving herb, as long as you don't let much smoke escape in-between hits (by holding the bowl opening against a table or something).
Not counting vapes which isn't really smoking[/QUOTE]
This, bowls don't burn as fast, and about half the time you need to relight it when smoking a spoon. Hitting my glass spoon is one of my favorite ways to smoke. Bong hits are harder to do and I consider a bong a more party thing.
[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;42482115]I was thinking more of a difference between like a grav bong and a spoon piece, since grav or waterfall bongs dont filter through water, it just sucks it in. Maybe the effect of feeling higher is more of it hits you all at once kinda deal.[/QUOTE]
Well even without water filtering the smoke will still touch a larger surface area and for a longer amount of time meaning more is left as residue, and the higher temperature reached in the bowl from when the smoke is building up could lead to a loss of cannabinoids. Then again you don't lose anything in-between hits since as you say you hit it all at once.
I think if you have an efficient enough smoking technique you will probably save more with a pipe.
[QUOTE=Flash_Fire;42482263]So, you can drink bong water and get high?[/QUOTE]
Theoretically yes :v:
[QUOTE=Flash_Fire;42482263]So, you can drink bong water and get high?[/QUOTE]
Make tea on the stuff and it shouldn't taste so bad?
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Just had some awesome rounds of Rising Storm as commander, man I've missed this game. It's great when you've got a decent team and people are listening to eachother and throwing around info and advice.
my friend is giving me a ganja plant as a gift :dance: it makes me happy coz i won't have to socialise to get weed anymore lol
now how the fuck do I take care of it
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