Physical punishment as a way of disciplining your children
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[QUOTE=Richardroth;52141469]Have you ever heard of tough love? Sometimes it's necessary, sorry to say, but it's just naive and idealistic to think all kids can just be talked to like a little kitten and expect them to listen. I've seen kids who get sweet talked by their parents, they speak in a soft tone and don't do anything while the kids tears shit apart. If you won the kids lottery and have receptive children who respond well to that kind of thing, cool. But some kids are little shits and know exactly what buttons to push.[/QUOTE]
I have. I think the part where people use it to justify hitting their kids is bullshit
I've already touched on poorly behaved children
[QUOTE=Sitkero;52140622]A child's behavior is a direct reflection of their environment and the parent's methods raising them
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Children aren't just born and a switch is flipped somewhere that makes them either sweet little angels or belligerent hellions, they learn these behaviors as they grow and observe and interact with the world around them. Children are [I]constantly[/I] learning and figuring out how to be people, and they're going to take their biggest cues from their parents[/B]
If a child's behavior is really so consistently terrible that physical violence seems to be the only possible recourse, I think it's really worth wondering about the why before just bending them over the knee because 'they've got to learn'[/QUOTE]
It's true that small children are prone to being willful and throwing tantrums, but that is largely because they are [I]children[/I] and that is [I]part of the learning process[/I]
I'm not telling you to never intervene with your children and just let them run wild. That's your assumption. The hands off approach is just another face on the came coin of parental failure and there's a definite value to a firm hand, but I don't think that hand should be used to just hit the children
[QUOTE=_Axel;52141530]There's no "kid lottery", the behavior of your children depends on how you brought them up.[/QUOTE]
There's a million variables to how your children behave, not just the parents.
[QUOTE=Richardroth;52141545]There's a million variables to how your children behave, not just the parents.[/QUOTE]
The parents are one of the absolute biggest ones, though, considering it's through the way they handle the child that the child is going to learn the foundations of how to interact with and react to the world around them
[QUOTE=Sitkero;52141544]I have. I think the part where people use it to justify hitting their kids is bullshit
I've already touched on poorly behaved children
It's true that small children are prone to being willful and throwing tantrums, but that is largely because they are [I]children[/I] and that is [I]part of the learning process[/I]
I'm not telling you to never intervene with your children and just let them run wild. That's your assumption. The hands off approach is just another face on the came coin of parental failure and there's a definite value to a firm hand, but I don't think that hand should be used to just hit the children[/QUOTE]
I would like to think most parents would hate to cause their kids pain, I know I would. That said, with that reasoning, we should never let kids get into any trouble, just keep them locked in a padded room so nothing bad ever happens to them, since it might make them depressed later in life. All i'm saying is, I think a spanking is only ever justified for very serious issues. Should it be used for every minor transgression? Absolutely not, but, like I said earlier, sometimes you have to do things you don't want to do or enjoy to teach a lesson.
[QUOTE=djjkxbox;52140755]And you'd get arrested. I've already addressed this point on the previous page:[/QUOTE]
I don't know about that, as I live in a country with generally smart police officers. And what are they gonna say on the phone? "Send the police! I got hit for hitting my child!"
And since when has somebody's age been a guarantee on that person being mature.
Using violence to get your point across seems like the simpletons solution. "Thing no work, hit make work!"
[QUOTE=_Axel;52141530]There's no "kid lottery", the behavior of your children depends on how you brought them up.[/QUOTE]
Why do twins have different personalities then
[QUOTE=Sunday_Roast;52142324]I don't know about that, as I live in a country with generally smart police officers. And what are they gonna say on the phone? "Send the police! I got hit for hitting my child!"
And since when has somebody's age been a guarantee on that person being mature.
Using violence to get your point across seems like the simpletons solution. "Thing no work, hit make work!"[/QUOTE]
Hitting an adult is assault. Obviously hitting children depends on the laws of the country.
Back to the point, using violence isn't the "simpleton's" solution, given that most people would only ever use violence after trying every other option available. You make it sound like it is that simple, that kids are just that black and white that you can read from a "guide to discipline your children" book and it'll magically work
[QUOTE=prinner;52143597]Why do twins have different personalities then[/QUOTE]
That's... Supporting my point actually. Child behavior isn't bound to genetics. Any difference in how either twin was brought up or interacted with his other twin can change his personality.
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