• My girlfriend of three years just confessed to me that she used to be a man
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[QUOTE=IliekBoxes;37680513]Hey guys I taught my cat to bark it's a dog now[/QUOTE] What was the point of this? You can't even begin to compare that to transgenderism. Transgenderism is a legitimate scientifically backed up condition.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37680490]Can't we just call transgendered people something a little more neutral? The only neutral word I can think of is "it" but that seems to offended them.[/QUOTE] dude why do gay people need to be called married, why don't we just called them buttrothed
i don't think a lot of you noticed that OP posted on page 6 that he's happy with his girlfriend :v: [QUOTE=andrey191919;37677740]I've mostly got over it now, and I would say that having a transsexual girlfriend is great. She has a sex drive that matches mine and jumps me at random times<3 And is into being tied up etc.[/QUOTE] well OP, if you're reading this thread still and it's a legitimate situation, i'm glad you came to that conclusion, best of luck, etc
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37680490]Can't we just call transgendered people something a little more neutral? The only neutral word I can think of is "it" but that seems to offended them.[/QUOTE] The reason words acquire their connotations is how they're used, it doesn't matter what the particular arrangement of letters is. If you substitute a new "neutral" word, it'll lose its neutrality if you don't change attitudes of society in general. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphemism#Euphemism_treadmill[/url] If slavery and racism had ended a few hundred years ago then the word "nigger" might just be an ordinary word these days.
in all fairness, GD is the worst place to have this kind of debate too many uneducated minors who repeat opinions they saw on fox news
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;37680491]I don't hate them, I just find it annoying how everyone is dancing around the topic. If someone's a transvestite, cool, whatever, you can believe what you want to believe. Just don't expect me to agree with everything you believe. You're all basically saying that because I feel they're still a man, I therefore am an ignorant transphobic dude who goes around being a cunt to transvestites in real life for no reason whatsoever. If dont really give a fuck if you think I'm a cunt because I'm giving my opinion bluntly on a fucking web forum.[/QUOTE] what you believe is objectively wrong, and you [I]are[/I] being ignorant as showcased by the fact that you can't even make the distinction between a transvestite and a transsexual. and you said, not ten minutes ago, that you [I]were[/I] a cunt. I mean Jesus Christ, that is the literal definition of ignorance right there AND you're contradicting yourself. get a goddamned grip.
Ontopic, I'd break up with him for being deceptive and dishonest. Plus, yes, that makes you gay.
[QUOTE=-nesto-;37680481]It's still a dude. You can paint a horse black n white and call it a zebra but it's still a fuckin horse[/QUOTE] Yeah but that's not a comparison. That's like going "Hey did you know if you put salt in boiling water pasta doesn't stick together as much" "Yeah, well, you have to use risotto rice instead of long grain rice if you want to make a risotto so FUCK YOU" I mean the concept of gender is entirely different from the concept of taxonomy. The way you describe a species is that individuals of that species can't reproduce to make fertile offspring so objectively a zebra and a horse are different species. No informed person thinks gender and sex are the same thing, or that sex or gender is an either/or thing. Here have a handy diagram [img]http://i.imgur.com/2BXdQ.png[/img]
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;37680491]who goes around being a cunt to transvestites in real life for no reason whatsoever.[/QUOTE] that's uh exactly what you're doing i mean there are transgender people on this forum reading your garbage and a transvestite is something different you ignorant child
I'm getting the feeling that the transgender megathread is currently residing in this thread. Idk why, I guess it's just a hunch.
[QUOTE=thisispain;37680544]dude why do gay people need to be called married, why don't we just called them buttrothed[/QUOTE] That's completely different and I have no clue what you are getting at.
[QUOTE=-nesto-;37680481]It's still a dude. You can paint a horse black n white and call it a zebra but it's still a fuckin horse[/QUOTE] Uh hi. Do you even know what female hormones do? - They decrease your libido and increase your sex drive to that of a woman's. - Some ocular changes (i.e. how women can see colors brighter) occurs. - You grow breasts, in which the size of them is based on genetics. - Your body hair falls off and is replaced with lighter body hair of a woman's. - Your skin gets softer. - Your body odor and sweat production is changed to that of a woman's. - Veins become less visible. - Fat is redistributed to that of a female's figure. - Muscle development is reduced. - It can assist and change hair/growth. Only thing it doesn't change is your voice. That still sound like a man to you? You don't think trans folk like myself would LOVE to have our lives rewinded so that we lived as a girl since age 0? But we can't, we make the best of it and move forward and try to live a normal life the way we believe we were supposed to be. But then assholes like you and every other transphobic bigot come in and tell us we're men because we had a dick/born a man/can't reproduce/etc. Don't you think we wouldn't love to go back in time and correct the mistake? Do all the things we can't do like provide children to the partner who we love dearly? But we can't. We have to make do with what we have and can do to our bodies to make us identify as a female in the world. So cut it out with the stupid bigotry and fucking identify us correctly. Thanks.
It's really up to you. This is a very personal decision, and remember that after you read this thread, Facepunch does not fully know you nor do we completely understand your situation. Personally I think that if you stay with her, that's great but if you don't, its understandable.
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;37680564]I'm getting the feeling that the transgender megathread is currently residing in this thread. Idk why, I guess it's just a hunch.[/QUOTE] Did a click glance and I saw nothing. But holy shit there are a lot of anime lovers and furries.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37680490]Can't we just call transgendered people something a little more neutral? The only neutral word I can think of is "it" but that seems to offended them.[/QUOTE] And they don't deserve to be called their Genders why exactly? You really can't defend yourself anymore. You literally rated one of the most transphobic posts in this entire thread winner because it was "brave" to you.
[QUOTE=Splurgy_A;37680560]Yeah but that's not a comparison.[/QUOTE] Uh yes it is. You can grow your hair out, wear makeup, chop off your dick and call yourself a woman but you're still a man.
[QUOTE=Splurgy_A;37680560]Yeah but that's not a comparison. That's like going "Hey did you know if you put salt in boiling water pasta doesn't stick together as much" "Yeah, well, you have to use risotto rice instead of long grain rice if you want to make a risotto so FUCK YOU" I mean the concept of gender is entirely different from the concept of taxonomy. The way you describe a species is that individuals of that species can't reproduce to make fertile offspring so objectively a zebra and a horse are different species. No informed person thinks gender and sex are the same thing, or that sex or gender is an either/or thing. Here have a handy diagram[/QUOTE] Hell, even with [I]species[/I] it's not as clear cut. Dawkins even explains that part of the reason it took so long for us to come up with evolution is the kind of Platonic thinking that makes people think that species have sharply defined boundaries.
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;37680491]I don't hate them, I just find it annoying how everyone is dancing around the topic. If someone's a transvestite, cool, whatever, you can believe what you want to believe. Just don't expect me to agree with everything you believe. You're all basically saying that because I feel they're still a man, [B]I therefore am an ignorant transphobic dude who goes around being a cunt to transvestites in real life for no reason whatsoever.[/B] If dont really give a fuck if you think I'm a cunt because I'm giving my opinion bluntly on a fucking web forum.[/QUOTE] Um you are doing this. You are literally doing what I bolded in your quote. Nobody goes around calling someone who identifies themselves as a woman a man for any other reason than to be an asshole. You can slather it with "opinion" all you want, you are in fact being a cunt.
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;37680564]I'm getting the feeling that the transgender megathread is currently residing in this thread. Idk why, I guess it's just a hunch.[/QUOTE] yeah I mean it's not like you're saying ignorant, offensive bullshit directly to them or anything
[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;37680575]Uh hi. Do you even know what female hormones do? - They decrease your libido and increase your sex drive to that of a woman's. - Some ocular changes (i.e. how women can see colors brighter) occurs. - You grow breasts, in which the size of them is based on genetics. - Your body hair falls off and is replaced with lighter body hair of a woman's. - Your skin gets softer. - Your body odor and sweat production is changed to that of a woman's. - Veins become less visible. - Fat is redistributed to that of a female's figure. - Muscle development is reduced. - It can assist and change hair/growth. Only thing it doesn't change is your voice. That still sound like a man to you? You don't think trans folk like myself would LOVE to have our lives rewinded so that we lived as a girl since age 0? But we can't, we make the best of it and move forward and try to live a normal life the way we believe we were supposed to be. But then assholes like you and every other transphobic bigot come in and tell us we're men because we had a dick/born a man/can't reproduce/etc. Don't you think we wouldn't love to go back in time and correct the mistake? But we can't. We have to make do with what we have and can do to our bodies to make us identify as a female in the world. So cut it out with the stupid bigotry and fucking identify us correctly. Thanks.[/QUOTE] That could of gone a little less aggressive
[QUOTE=thisispain;37680561]that's uh exactly what you're doing i mean there are transgender people on this forum reading your garbage and a transvestite is something different you ignorant child[/QUOTE] Because bluntly stating your opinion on an online anonymous web forum is the same as walking up to a transgendered person irl and throwing rocks at them.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37680567]That's completely different and I have no clue what you are getting at.[/QUOTE] what i'm saying is your logic is stupid. making up a new word in the interest of being "neutral" is completely the opposite of being "neutral". just like saying gay people should just have something separate from being married isn't neutral because you're making gay marriage appear as something different from marriage.
[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;37680575]- Some ocular changes (i.e. how women can see colors brighter) occurs.[/QUOTE] woa that's really cool actually didn't know that, ty
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;37680611]Because bluntly stating your opinion on an online anonymous web forum is the same as walking up to a transgendered person irl and throwing rocks at them.[/QUOTE] your opinion is wrong and deeply offensive
[QUOTE=Boxbot219;37680598]Um you are doing this. You are literally doing what I bolded in your quote. Nobody goes around calling someone who identifies themselves as a woman a man for any other reason than to be an asshole. You can slather it with "opinion" all you want, you are in fact being a cunt.[/QUOTE] Ok bro, show me proof that I assaulted transgendered people in real life.
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;37680611]Because bluntly stating your opinion on an online anonymous web forum is the same as walking up to a transgendered person irl and throwing rocks at them.[/QUOTE] Words of wisdom. I didn't know it was impossible to be an asshole to transgender people without throwing rocks at them. Lets go ahead and waive the ban penalty for racism too while we're at it using this concrete logic.
[QUOTE=DinoJesus;37680611]Because bluntly stating your opinion on an online anonymous web forum is the same as walking up to a transgendered person irl and throwing rocks at them.[/QUOTE] oh you don't think forums operate in the plane of "real life"? that would explain your antisocial behavior. all that says is you don't even have the balls to spew your dumb crap when you lack anonymity, probably because you know it's stupid and wrong
[QUOTE=-nesto-;37680557]Ontopic, I'd break up with him for being deceptive and dishonest. Plus, yes, that makes you gay.[/QUOTE] Wtf OK so you have a choice here [img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4N2ORH2_Wko/TKIq2RIpmhI/AAAAAAAAAOQ/7ioQw336Jfo/s1600/buckangel_blog.jpg[/img] This is Buck Angel. He is a trans man. If you're curious about what his genitals look like, click here [url=http://img.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/tdomf/118516/buck.jpg]NSFW[/url] [img]http://www.scaddistrict.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Jenna-Talackova-2012-Hot-Free-Cool-Wallpaper.jpg[/img] This is Jenna Talackova. She is a trans woman and a Miss Canada finalist. I don't know what her genitals look like because she's never posed nude but she's post op and surgically constructed vaginas are usually indistinguishable from the real thing unless you get up inside them with a speculum. Are you telling me that a guy who finds Buck Angel sexually attractive is straight and a guy who finds Jenna Talackova sexually attractive is gay?
[QUOTE=Skelmech;37680590]And they don't deserve to be called their Genders why exactly? [/quote] Because it seems very confusing to others. [QUOTE=Skelmech;37680590] You really can't defend yourself anymore. You literally rated one of the most transphobic posts in this entire thread winner because it was "brave" to you.[/QUOTE] I found it brave and silly at the same time. It's like stealing food that a lion is eating right out of his mouth when he crews it.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37680649]Because it seems very confusing to others. [/QUOTE] UGHG the point of changing into another gender is because THEY WANT TO BE THAT GENDER making it a separate thing defeats the point of it how are you not getting this
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