• My girlfriend of three years just confessed to me that she used to be a man
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[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682083]has there ever been a thread with more exchanges of boxes than this thread [editline]39[/editline] I have received like, over 100 from this thread because I wanted children of my own[/QUOTE] From what I recall, you did not receive boxes because you wanted children of your own, you received them because you were needlessly impolite, while also extending your argument beyond just that. And unfortunately both of those factors also partially created a snowball-like boxing effect for you. Your perception of wanting biological children is fully understandable and respectable at its core though, unfortunately its extensions were not as agreeable.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682083]has there ever been a thread with more exchanges of boxes than this thread [editline]39[/editline] I have received like, over 100 from this thread because I wanted children of my own[/QUOTE] you were a big meanie and thats y you got 100 dumbs i got like 80 funnies tho so its all good
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[QUOTE=genkaz92;37682171]From what I recall, you did not receive boxes because you wanted children of your own, you received them because you were needlessly impolite, while also extending your argument beyond just that.[/QUOTE] Every dumb I gave ROFLBURGER was not because he wants children. I view that desire as really shallow personally to override loving someone but I didn't dumb him for having a differing opinion. I only dumbed him for posts I saw as extremely ignorant or insensitive.
Do what you want. Staying with her doesn't make you gay and breaking up with her doesn't make you a bigot. I would find it incredibly uncomfortable, personally.
[QUOTE=Rammaster;37682191]-snip,late-[/QUOTE] The follow up vid is quite awesome [video=youtube;Z3n9u5n_dmo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3n9u5n_dmo[/video]
[QUOTE=Onyx3173;37682204]Every dumb I gave ROFLBURGER was not because he wants children. I view that desire as really shallow personally to override loving someone but I didn't dumb him for having a differing opinion. I only dumbed him for posts I saw as extremely ignorant or insensitive.[/QUOTE] Exactly what I meant myself. wanting to have biological children is extremely respectable from virtually every perspective, unless it demolishes something as endlessly beautiful as love for someone.
kill thet filthy lyer
Tell her you need a break, get on hormones and come back as a woman. Find out how she feels. [editline]value[/editline] Wait, that doesn't make any sense.
I have a transgender friend. I didnt know what it was at first, and wrote it off as "oh its a guy that thinks theyre a girl" and left it at that. Because of the way I treated them I inadvertently depressed them to the point of suicide because I didnt know what this was. I really dislike how some people here are "used to be a man, always a man". It isnt that simple, and while I dont know all that much about transgenderism, I know enough now that if they identify as a girl, or guy, then what does it matter? They are still the same person, just life unfortunately wasnt kind enough to give them the right body to suit their gender. Should anyone be wondering, my friend is still here, but we cant have the same friendship we had before because of how I assumed transgenderism was just some problem that could be fixed. Im so sorry to them if theyre reading this. I should have learned more about it when you told me.
[QUOTE=Tomo Takino;37682350]I have a transgender friend. I didnt know what it was at first, and wrote it off as "oh its a guy that thinks theyre a girl" and left it at that. Because of the way I treated them I inadvertently depressed them to the point of suicide because I didnt know what this was. I really dislike how some people here are "used to be a man, always a man". It isnt that simple, and while I dont know all that much about transgenderism, I know enough now that if they identify as a girl, or guy, then what does it matter? They are still the same person, just life unfortunately wasnt kind enough to give them the right body to suit their gender. [b]Should anyone be wondering, my friend is still here, but we cant have the same friendship we had before because of how I assumed transgenderism was just some problem that could be fixed. Im so sorry to them if theyre reading this. I should have learned more about it when you told me.[/b][/QUOTE] I think I actually heard my heart break. That's so sad ;-;
[QUOTE=Tomo Takino;37682350]I have a transgender friend. I didnt know what it was at first, and wrote it off as "oh its a guy that thinks theyre a girl" and left it at that. Because of the way I treated them I inadvertently depressed them to the point of suicide because I didnt know what this was. I really dislike how some people here are "used to be a man, always a man". It isnt that simple, and while I dont know all that much about transgenderism, I know enough now that if they identify as a girl, or guy, then what does it matter? They are still the same person, just life unfortunately wasnt kind enough to give them the right body to suit their gender. Should anyone be wondering, my friend is still here, but we cant have the same friendship we had before because of how I assumed transgenderism was just some problem that could be fixed. Im so sorry to them if theyre reading this. I should have learned more about it when you told me.[/QUOTE] I sincerely hope that they forgive you to some degree. and I also sincerely hope that you made your misunderstanding clear to them.
[QUOTE=genkaz92;37682390]I sincerely hope that they forgive you to some degree. and I also sincerely hope that you made your misunderstanding clear to them.[/QUOTE] I should clarify something I forgot in my post. They became suicidal because they liked me, and due to me not understanding what transgenderism was I turned them down because I thought it would be the same as dating a man. It really isnt. I make sure to refer to her as she now, but I still just cant make that up to her and I never will.
[QUOTE=genkaz92;37682171]From what I recall, you did not receive boxes because you wanted children of your own, you received them because you were needlessly impolite, while also extending your argument beyond just that. And unfortunately both of those factors also partially created a snowball-like boxing effect for you. Your perception of wanting biological children is fully understandable and respectable at its core though, unfortunately its extensions were not as agreeable.[/QUOTE] I try to be as blunt, but not too blunt as possible. I try to get the point across as is without any sugar coating or anything held back. It seems that people take their transgenderism more seriously than I predicted.
[QUOTE=Tomo Takino;37682430]I should clarify something I forgot in my post. They became suicidal because they liked me, and due to me not understanding what transgenderism was I turned them down because I thought it would be the same as dating a man. It really isnt. I make sure to refer to her as she now, but I still just cant make that up to her and I never will.[/QUOTE] I am terribly sorry to hear. Everyone makes mistakes, and it is immensely important and good to know that you did not intend to hurt anyone and show regret. I hope that she is doing significantly better now.
[QUOTE=Tomo Takino;37682430]I should clarify something I forgot in my post. They became suicidal because they liked me, and due to me not understanding what transgenderism was I turned them down because I thought it would be the same as dating a man. It really isnt. I make sure to refer to her as she now, but I still just cant make that up to her and I never will.[/QUOTE] Oh wow they actually are more sensitive than I thought
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682449]Oh wow they actual are more sensitive than I thought[/QUOTE] Isnt that blantantly obvious after 15 pages of this discussion? It isnt something you can just write off and live with, its extremely important.
I think you're lucky, just keep dating. unlike me where I met this amazing girl that wanted to be a guy and I fell hard for her. Now she a man. Nothing I can do.
[QUOTE=Tomo Takino;37682456]Isnt that blantantly obvious after 15 pages of this discussion?[/QUOTE] I didn't know half the people I've argued with were transgendered. I thought they were just white knights.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682439]I try to be as blunt, but not too blunt as possible. I try to get the point across as is without any sugar coating or anything held back. It seems that people take their transgenderism more seriously than I predicted.[/QUOTE] At times though you go from being blunt to being abrasive and even sometimes offensive about it. And it is a pretty serious thing. Nearly half of all transgender attempt suicide due to their transgenderism. That's not even considering those who have seriously considered it. It's kinda hard not to take it seriously. [QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682449]Oh wow they actually are more sensitive than I thought[/QUOTE] When someone you think highly basically ends up saying that you should just deal with being of your given sex no matter how you try to explain it to them, it can be really difficult to handle.
[QUOTE=Onyx3173;37682492]Nearly half of all transgender attempt suicide due to their transgenderism. [/QUOTE] Post Operation or Pre Operation?
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682478]I didn't know half the people I've argued with were transgendered. I thought they were just white knights.[/QUOTE] roflburger makes another wild assumption colour me surprised
[QUOTE=thisispain;37682507]roflburger makes another wild assumption colour me surprised[/QUOTE] Are you implying I could detect transgenderism. it's pretty rare that someone you meet on the internet has transgenderism. [editline]49[/editline] This is ironic because you are assuming that I can detect transgenderism is someone.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682506]Post Operation or Pre Operation?[/QUOTE] Overall. It's most common in those who haven't even started HRT but even then it's still more common than the general populace. I'm not sure about post-SRS however.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682478]I didn't know half the people I've argued with were transgendered. I thought they were just white knights.[/QUOTE] Plenty of white knights are just as sensitive as transgender people. I treat this issue as close to as if I was directly targeted with it as a part of the minority. And personally I really do not have that much of a distinction. If another human being becomes needlessly oppressed, then it means that I get oppressed too. While I am not currently an activist, I have zero tolerance for needless intolerance.
Rofl have you honestly listened to anyone?
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682478]I didn't know half the people I've argued with were transgendered. I thought they were just white knights.[/QUOTE] Is anyone else getting sick to death of the term "white knight" being used as a blanket statement like this?
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682524]Are you implying I could detect transgenderism.[/QUOTE] He was pointing out how you assumed they were all white knights.
[QUOTE=Skelmech;37682550]Rofl have you honestly listened to anyone?[/QUOTE] What was I supposed to be listening to
[QUOTE=Boxbot219;37682570]Is anyone else getting sick to death of the term "white knight" being used as a blanket statement like this?[/QUOTE] I do not like the term either, it implies some type of pretentiousness or hidden egoism.
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