• My girlfriend of three years just confessed to me that she used to be a man
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[QUOTE=Boxbot219;37682570]Is anyone else getting sick to death of the term "white knight" being used as a blanket statement like this?[/QUOTE] I've always hated it. It's a cop out for when multiple people are telling you you're wrong because you're actually wrong.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682580]What was I supposed to be listening to[/QUOTE] To pretty much everything, including yourself.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682524]Are you implying I could detect transgenderism. it's pretty rare that someone you meet on the internet has transgenderism. [editline]49[/editline] This is ironic because you are assuming that I can detect transgenderism is someone.[/QUOTE] no you assumed that everyone was a white knight: [quote] A gaming term used to describe a male gamer who, in a desperate attempt to get himself laid, will attempt to woo or impress any female gamer he comes across online by being overly defensive of her and giving her special attention, such as playing as a healing class and only healing her.[/quote] [quote]On an internet forum, a person who defends a member who is clearly wrong, usually with the hopes of gaining brownie points with said member. Often seen as negative behavior.[/quote] which white knight is it? do you think we're trying to get laid by defending trans people, or do you think that trans people are utterly and obviously wrong and anyone defending them is just pretending in order to curry up favour? obviously you don't think people can care deeply about an issue, deep enough to find a problem with people saying dumb shit on the internet. this might be a rash assumption, but people who care enough about trans issues to the point of defending it probably have a personal experience with it, me included. when you insult trans people you insult someone close to me and i don't like that.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682580]What was I supposed to be listening to[/QUOTE] That transgenderism is kind of a BIG deal? That there's no difference between dating a ciswoman(aka not trans) and a transwoman? You keep acting like we're mad at you for wanting to have kids. That's not it. We're mad at you because of your bigoted shit.
[QUOTE=genkaz92;37682448]I am terribly sorry to hear. Everyone makes mistakes, and it is immensely important and good to know that you did not intend to hurt anyone and show regret. I hope that she is doing significantly better now.[/QUOTE] Im incredibly happy she is still one of my friends after what I did to her and I probably dont tell her that enough, but the fact I cant ever make it up fully is really saddening.
[QUOTE=thisispain;37682616]no you assumed that everyone was a white knight: which white knight is it? do you think we're trying to get laid by defending trans people, or do you think that trans people are utterly and obviously wrong and anyone defending them is just pretending in order to curry up favour? obviously you don't think people can care deeply about an issue, deep enough to find a problem with people saying dumb shit on the internet. this might be a rash assumption, but people who care enough about trans issues to the point of defending it probably have a personal experience with it, me included. when you insult trans people you insult someone close to me and i don't like that.[/QUOTE] I wasn't trying to insult anyone. I recently discovered that this was insulting. If I knew people were greatly offended by this, I wouldn't of said it. Also a white knight, by my definition, is similar to button one, replacing the words "clearly wrong" with "right or wrong" and replacing brownie points with "friendship"
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682449]Oh wow they actually are more sensitive than I thought[/QUOTE] TG's are still human beings, and we have just as many emotions as any non transitioned person has :)
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682478]I didn't know half the people I've argued with were transgendered. I thought they were just white knights.[/QUOTE] You that as if it were a bad thing? What's wrong with being a "white knight" over something important?
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682698]I wasn't trying to insult anyone. I recently discovered that this was insulting.[/QUOTE] hey dude in the future you should probably read up before you go into a thread and start saying random shit just saying [QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682698]It seems that people take their transgenderism more seriously than I predicted. [/QUOTE] like obviously you think this is a big joke or something, and you must have been really really ignorant to not know people take it seriously [QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682698]Also a white knight, by my definition, is similar to button one, replacing the words "clearly wrong" with "right or wrong" and replacing brownie points with "friendship"[/QUOTE] white knight is still an insult, even if it is in your case an inept and nonsensical one
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;37682722]TG's are still human beings, and we have just as many emotions as any non transitioned person has :)[/QUOTE] Yes I know this. I didn't expect anyone to be offended by my statements.
[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;37682750]You that as if it were a bad thing? What's wrong with being a "white knight" over something important?[/QUOTE] White knights [B]can[/B] be annoying.
[QUOTE=Apache249;37682765]White knights [B]can[/B] be annoying.[/QUOTE] There is a clear difference between a [I]white knight[/I] and someone [I]defending something[/I].
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682760]Yes I know this. I didn't expect anyone to be offended by my statements.[/QUOTE] Then you were taking a pretty bold risk, you would actually have a hard time finding someone who is not offended by it, that is someone who comes from the category of disagreeing with you.
[QUOTE=thisispain;37682755]hey dude in the future you should probably read up before you go into a thread and start saying random shit just saying like obviously you think this is a big joke or something, and you must have been really really ignorant to not know people take it seriously[/QUOTE] I put myself in a transgendered person's shoes. I would ask myself (not aloud) "If I was a transgendered person, and I was told that nobody would date me because I can't have children, would I be offended?" I would say "No, because there is more fish in the sea. There would be people who would want no children and just a soulmate"
[QUOTE=Apache249;37682765]White knights [B]can[/B] be annoying.[/QUOTE] There was really not a single white knight in this thread.
[QUOTE=Primigenes;37682791]If you had sex already then tell her you need space for awhile. Don't dump her or anything just give yourself sometime to relax. I don't think you should have sex or anything with secrets like this about. Some people actually care[/QUOTE] Why would this be? What his penis has entered could matter less and I'm sure if he didn't notice anything before he won't be able to tell any differences in the future
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;37682787]There is a clear difference between a [I]white knight[/I] and someone [I]defending something[/I].[/QUOTE] Yes I know, but he used the term "white knight."
Having a transsexual girlfriend must be pretty awesome because you can have sex without any condoms or her taking the pill.
[QUOTE=genkaz92;37682814]There was really not a single white knight in this thread.[/QUOTE] I never said there was.
[QUOTE=Cl0cK;37682831]Having a transsexual girlfriend must be pretty awesome because you can have sex without any condoms or her taking the pill.[/QUOTE] always look on the bright side of life, toodoo toodoo
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682810]I put myself in a transgendered person's shoes. I would ask myself (not aloud) "If I was a transgendered person, and I was told that nobody would date me because I can't have children, would I be offended?" I would say "No, because there is more fish in the sea. There would be people who would want no children and just a soulmate"[/QUOTE] It's not as simple as that. Sure, it's easy to put yourself in the shoes of a transgender person. But it is impossible to fully grasp what it's like unless you are transgender.
[QUOTE=Cl0cK;37682831]Having a transsexual girlfriend must be pretty awesome because you can have sex without any condoms or her taking the pill.[/QUOTE] What about STIs
[QUOTE=Primigenes;37682844]Because some people actually care. Stop being so ignorant What his "Penis" has entered can/could matter to him I'm not saying break up with her Just leave some time to himself to relax and think[/QUOTE] I already PM'd the OP. He said he's not going to leave her or take a break because he loves her.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37682810]I put myself in a transgendered person's shoes. I would ask myself (not aloud) "If I was a transgendered person, and I was told that nobody would date me because I can't have children, would I be offended?" I would say "No, because there is more fish in the sea. There would be people who would want no children and just a soulmate"[/QUOTE] First of all, a lover is significantly more then a soulmate. Second of all, it is nice that you are using a point of reference that you can easily relate to, but you should also consider the genuine existence of other possibilities.
[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;37682750]You that as if it were a bad thing? What's wrong with being a "white knight" over something important?[/QUOTE] There's a difference between being an advocate over some important issue of human rights, being a white knight who not many will listen to, and being an aggravator perpetually expanding on something that the offender(s) won't change their opinions on anyways. I'd say a few of you are being the third.
this was a good read
I quoted a little of the OP to three of my irl best friends and asked them their opinions on the subject. Only one of them had any experience with the subject at all and that was just having an online friend who is trans but they just game together and don't discuss it. All three of them generally said that they think the OP should stay with his girlfriend and continue considering her a girl. There were a few minor things such as the one with the trans friend thinking it makes the boyfriend bi but that's the biggest negative part of their opinions on it really. Considering they have so little experience with the subject I think that was a pretty enlightening group of conversations.
[QUOTE=Onyx3173;37682888]I quoted a little of the OP to three of my irl best friends and asked them their opinions on the subject. Only one of them had any experience with the subject at all and that was just having an online friend who is trans but they just game together and don't discuss it. All three of them generally said that they think the OP should stay with his girlfriend and continue considering her a girl. There were a few minor things such as the one with the trans friend thinking it makes the boyfriend bi but that's the biggest negative part of their opinions on it really. Considering they have so little experience with the subject I think that was a pretty enlightening group of conversations.[/QUOTE] I completely agree with this, since I should obviously give my opinion in this thread. If you loved the girl for 3 years, what's so different now?
The only thing I don't honestly agree with, in regards to what the OP's girlfriend did, is keeping it a secret for three years. Yeah, I'd most likely hide it for a long time too (which would be hard since I'm not getting the surgery) but three years is a tad excessive. I can't honestly blame the OP for being a little winded from the news, but he still shouldn't leave her.
[QUOTE=HHBlackhawk;37682875]There's a difference between being an advocate over some important issue of human rights, being a white knight who not many will listen to, and being an aggravator perpetually expanding on something that the offender(s) won't change their opinions on anyways. I'd say a few of you are being the third.[/QUOTE] Because why try to educate the offenders? That's stupid!
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